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Thought Experiments
                        John Ashmead




Sunday, April 1, 2012
“I will a little tink”
                        – Well-known Swabian




Sunday, April 1, 2012
Definition

                  Go back to Pre-Socratics; long history

                  Range from ‘scientific parable’ to
                  ‘experimental plan’

                  Used to illustrate, to attack, to support, &
                  simply to understand



Sunday, April 1, 2012
Galileo
  Salviati: If we take two bodies whose natural speeds are different, it is
  clear that on uniting the two, the more rapid one will be partly retarded
  by the slower, and the slower will be somewhat hastened by the swifter.
  Do you not agree with me in this opinion?

  Simplicio: You are unquestionably right.

  Salviati: But if this is true, and if a large stone moves with a speed of, say,
  eight, while a smaller stone moves with a speed of four, then when they
  are united, the system will move with a speed of less than eight. Yet the
  two stones tied together make a stone larger than that which before
  moved with a speed of eight: hence the heavier body now moves with
  less speed than the lighter, an effect which is contrary to your supposition.
  Thus you see how, from the assumption that the heavier body moves
  faster than the lighter one, I can infer that the heavier body moves more
  slowly…
Sunday, April 1, 2012
Einstein


                  Chasing light

                  Equivalence principle

                  Clock in a box




Sunday, April 1, 2012
Young Einstein
         "...a paradox upon which I had already hit at the age of
         sixteen: If I pursue a beam of light with the velocity c
         (velocity of light in a vacuum), I should observe such a
         beam of light as an electromagnetic field at rest though
         spatially oscillating. …
         From the very beginning it appeared to me intuitively
         clear that, judged from the standpoint of such an
         observer, everything would have to happen according to
         the same laws as for an observer who, relative to the
         earth, was at rest. …
         One sees in this paradox the germ of the special
         relativity theory is already contained."
Sunday, April 1, 2012
Chasing the light




                 http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/Goodies/
                       Chasing_the_light/index.html


Sunday, April 1, 2012
Equivalence principle
                        You can’t tell the
                        difference between
                        gravity & acceleration

                        With conservation of
                        energy, the foundation of
                        general relativity

                        Implies red-shift,
                        curvature of light by
                        gravity, time dilation, …

Sunday, April 1, 2012
Clock in a
                           box
                        Open the shutter, briefly.
                        Photon escapes with
                        known uncertainty in
                        time.

                        Now, weigh the box.
                        Now we know the
                        energy!

                        But this violates the
                        energy/time uncertainty
Sunday, April 1, 2012
                        relation
It was a real shock for Bohr...who, at first,
                        could not think of a solution. For the entire
                        evening he was extremely agitated, and
                        he continued passing from one scientist to
                        another, seeking to persuade them that it
                        could not be the case, that it would have
                        been the end of physics if Einstein were
                        right; but he couldn't come up with any
                        way to resolve the paradox.
                        I will never forget the image of the two
                        antagonists as they left the club: Einstein,
                        with his tall and commanding figure, who
                        walked tranquilly, with a mildly ironic smile,
                        and Bohr who trotted along beside him,
                        full of excitement…
                        The morning after saw the triumph of
                        Bohr.

Sunday, April 1, 2012
Chain of uncertainties
                        But to weigh the box we
                        must measure its height

                        But to do this, we have to
                        apply an impulse

                        And therefore there is an
                        uncertainty in its height

                        And, therefore (by
                        general relativity) in its
                        time!
Sunday, April 1, 2012
Other thought experiments


                  Einstein Rosen Podolsky

                  Maxwell’s demon

                  Newton’s Apple

                  Black hole information paradox

                  …


Sunday, April 1, 2012
Scientific methods

                  Observation

                  Experiment

                  Computer simulations

                  Big data




Sunday, April 1, 2012
Relativity & madness
                              During the voyage, an around-the-globe
                              sailboat race, Crowhurst had been
                              reading Einstein's book "Relativity: The
                              Special and the General Theory."
                              [constancy of the speed of light] "is in
                              reality neither a supposition nor a
                              hypothesis about the physical nature of
                              light, but a stipulation which I can make
      June 24th , 1969        of my own free will in order to arrive at
      Donald Crowhurst        a definition of simultaneity."
      threw himself off his
      trimaran in despair     "You can't do THAT!" Crowhurst, an
      at relativity           electrical engineer, protested to his
                              journal. "I thought, 'the swindler.' "
                              From there he descended into madness.
Sunday, April 1, 2012
References

                  Einstein - The Meaning of Relativity

                  Ohanian - Einstein’s Mistakes

                  Isaacson - Einstein

                  Sorenson - Thought Experiments

                  Usual googling…



Sunday, April 1, 2012

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Thought experiments

  • 1. Thought Experiments John Ashmead Sunday, April 1, 2012
  • 2. “I will a little tink” – Well-known Swabian Sunday, April 1, 2012
  • 3. Definition Go back to Pre-Socratics; long history Range from ‘scientific parable’ to ‘experimental plan’ Used to illustrate, to attack, to support, & simply to understand Sunday, April 1, 2012
  • 4. Galileo Salviati: If we take two bodies whose natural speeds are different, it is clear that on uniting the two, the more rapid one will be partly retarded by the slower, and the slower will be somewhat hastened by the swifter. Do you not agree with me in this opinion? Simplicio: You are unquestionably right. Salviati: But if this is true, and if a large stone moves with a speed of, say, eight, while a smaller stone moves with a speed of four, then when they are united, the system will move with a speed of less than eight. Yet the two stones tied together make a stone larger than that which before moved with a speed of eight: hence the heavier body now moves with less speed than the lighter, an effect which is contrary to your supposition. Thus you see how, from the assumption that the heavier body moves faster than the lighter one, I can infer that the heavier body moves more slowly… Sunday, April 1, 2012
  • 5. Einstein Chasing light Equivalence principle Clock in a box Sunday, April 1, 2012
  • 6. Young Einstein "...a paradox upon which I had already hit at the age of sixteen: If I pursue a beam of light with the velocity c (velocity of light in a vacuum), I should observe such a beam of light as an electromagnetic field at rest though spatially oscillating. … From the very beginning it appeared to me intuitively clear that, judged from the standpoint of such an observer, everything would have to happen according to the same laws as for an observer who, relative to the earth, was at rest. … One sees in this paradox the germ of the special relativity theory is already contained." Sunday, April 1, 2012
  • 7. Chasing the light http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/Goodies/ Chasing_the_light/index.html Sunday, April 1, 2012
  • 8. Equivalence principle You can’t tell the difference between gravity & acceleration With conservation of energy, the foundation of general relativity Implies red-shift, curvature of light by gravity, time dilation, … Sunday, April 1, 2012
  • 9. Clock in a box Open the shutter, briefly. Photon escapes with known uncertainty in time. Now, weigh the box. Now we know the energy! But this violates the energy/time uncertainty Sunday, April 1, 2012 relation
  • 10. It was a real shock for Bohr...who, at first, could not think of a solution. For the entire evening he was extremely agitated, and he continued passing from one scientist to another, seeking to persuade them that it could not be the case, that it would have been the end of physics if Einstein were right; but he couldn't come up with any way to resolve the paradox. I will never forget the image of the two antagonists as they left the club: Einstein, with his tall and commanding figure, who walked tranquilly, with a mildly ironic smile, and Bohr who trotted along beside him, full of excitement… The morning after saw the triumph of Bohr. Sunday, April 1, 2012
  • 11. Chain of uncertainties But to weigh the box we must measure its height But to do this, we have to apply an impulse And therefore there is an uncertainty in its height And, therefore (by general relativity) in its time! Sunday, April 1, 2012
  • 12. Other thought experiments Einstein Rosen Podolsky Maxwell’s demon Newton’s Apple Black hole information paradox … Sunday, April 1, 2012
  • 13. Scientific methods Observation Experiment Computer simulations Big data Sunday, April 1, 2012
  • 14. Relativity & madness During the voyage, an around-the-globe sailboat race, Crowhurst had been reading Einstein's book "Relativity: The Special and the General Theory." [constancy of the speed of light] "is in reality neither a supposition nor a hypothesis about the physical nature of light, but a stipulation which I can make June 24th , 1969 of my own free will in order to arrive at Donald Crowhurst a definition of simultaneity." threw himself off his trimaran in despair "You can't do THAT!" Crowhurst, an at relativity electrical engineer, protested to his journal. "I thought, 'the swindler.' " From there he descended into madness. Sunday, April 1, 2012
  • 15. References Einstein - The Meaning of Relativity Ohanian - Einstein’s Mistakes Isaacson - Einstein Sorenson - Thought Experiments Usual googling… Sunday, April 1, 2012