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Bihar & UP
                            Bihar & UP
           Some Glimpses the Rural Public 
           Some Glimpses the Rural Public
                   Health System 
             And Some Hard Core Issues
               d           d
                           by Shyam Ashtekar
                           by Shyam Ashtekar
                 (An unplanned personal visit in Oct 2012)


Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                    1
District Hospital
Bihar‐the typical District Hospital. Shortage of     DH in Koshambi (80 km fro m Allahabad) UP‐This 
                                                                       (                       )
doctors and nurses is writ large on each hospital!
d          d        i     i l           h h i l!     district hospital has no gynecologist for last 6 months!




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                                                       2
Hospital Wards 
Typically, Bihar hospital wards are barely livable!    Empty wards in Koshambi’s CHC in UP: where are all 
Tattered mattresses, rickety cots, torn bedsheets, 
                            y                          the JSY admissions? (But I am sure other CHCs will have 
                                                                            (
cleanliness are all there to see!                      wards full of JSY cases)




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                                                     3
A delivery room
                            A delivery room
Pathetic scene of a delivery room in PHC, 
with broken del table‐ Bih P i
 ith b k d l t bl Bihar‐Purniya              In Karari
                                             In Karari UP
                                             •   I did not photgraph a labour room 
                                                 here, since a mother was there 
                                                 with her baby!
                                             •   May be she had delivered here 
                                                 just an hr before!
                                             •   All the equipment was out of 
                                                 work. The Pvt Dai conducted the 
                                                 work The Pvt Dai conducted the
                                                 birth , in presence of a nurse & 
                                                 ASHA! Birthing is treated as dirty 
                                                 work and the safai –after is called 
                                                 naraksafai!
                                             •   ASHAs from ‘good’ families have 
                                                 already left their work! But Dai is 
                                                 still there! (why did we start the 
                                                 ASHA program at all?)
                                                 ASHA              t ll?)

Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                          4
Efforts to improve the system!
                      p          y
One of the better DH‐‐ in Purniya dt, Bihar  (they have a 
color code for bedsheets from Mon to Sunday! And it 
                                               y
was followed!)                                               In Purnea district city
                                                             In Purnea district city
                                                             •   There is 2 km road from Purnea
                                                                 station which is full of Pvt
                                                                 hospitals, clinics, medicine shops, 
                                                                 hospitals clinics medicine shops
                                                                 labs and may be touts!
                                                             •   The district Hospital marks the 
                                                                 end of this Pvt Health bazaar! 
                                                                 Patients from surrounding blocks 
                                                                 and districts plus from Nepal 
                                                                 come here for treatment!
                                                             •   It is said daily wage in this district 
                                                                 It i id d il          i thi di t i t
                                                                 is around Rs 25/ but there are 
                                                                 also people who can pay.



Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                                              5
Medicines in public hospitals
                        p         p
A generic shop with 50% price in Katihar DH Bihar and 
below a List of available generics in Bihar              Medicine shortage

                                                         • However, in Koshambi
                                                           district, medicines were in 
                                                           short supply, in Karari block 
                                                           mini PHC only paracetamol
                                                           was available as the MO 
                                                           was available as the MO
                                                           told me! The CHC 
                                                           pharmacist also repeated 
                                                           the same! 
                                                           th         !



Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                               6
OPDs & doctors
                            OPDs & doctors
                                   UP‐At 12 o’ clock a homeopath came  to ‘dispose’ an 
OPD in a Bihar PHC                 OPD..a crowd of 15 patients in the room..this is 
                                                       p
                                   common

• I did not photograph an 
  OPD in Bihar, but a doc in 
  PHC told me he attends 400 
  patients everyday with 1‐2 
  AYUSH docs to help! So he 
  AYUSH docs to help! So he
  must also be seeing a 
  crowd! Plus has 10 JSY 
  deliveries to attend daily! 
  d li i t tt d d il !
  (this must be verified)


Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                                 7
The neat looking PHC in Vaishali district, the queue is 
                    The neat looking PHC in Vaishali district the queue is
                    for JSY cheques!




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                      8
In PMCH patna
                            In PMCH‐patna
• I saw pathetic conditions in the PMCH (Patna Medical 
  College Hospital), with crowded wards and few doctors, 
  unmanageable conditions! Friction is common in this 
  PMCH where all of Bihar patients have to come if they 
  PMCH where all of Bihar patients have to come if they
  cant find help in districts! Bribes and attacks are –they 
  say‐common in PMCH!




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                      9
Problems about Govt doctors!
         Problems about Govt doctors!
• The regular doctors in Bihar are permitted to do Pvt
  practice! So it is official to stay away and work in pvt as 
        i ! S i i ffi i l                    d     ki
  per convenience! I heard an anesthetist comes once a 
  week for his CHC duty. Also, a Pvt doctor told me every 
  Govt doctor has to pay the MOH/CS monthly as a 
        d       h              h       /        hl
  ‘retainership’ no matter what you do! Salaries are paid 
  irregularly, sometimes not paid even for months 
  together!
        h
• The On contract doctors—difficult to get in the first 
  p
  place—are also unwilling to work because of poor terms 
                              g                    p
  of pay etc.
• The conclusion‐both are cribbing and do not work 
  wholeheartedly!

Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                        10
JSY beneficiaries
                              JSY beneficiaries
Long queues are common for JSY cheque of 1400/‐ may 
    gq                                   q           y
                                                         UP‐JSY payment is beset with frauds, 
be this is all that is institutional about delivery!     is it increasing quality of care?
                                                         is it increasing quality of care?




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                                    11
RSBY scandal in Bihar!
                       RSBY scandal in Bihar!
                                  Such minimum set ups of illegal doctors  also 
The apparently pro‐people         misused the RSBY harvest! 46000 
                                  hysterectomies in Bihar alone. And still counting
                                  hysterectomies in Bihar alone. And still counting
scheme is in for heavy misuse!
scheme is in for heavy misuse!




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                        12
The JSY transport!
                                                      UP bought the ambulances but they are still stranded in 
102 In use in Bihar, this is quite useful in Bihar    the scandal, so mothers are mostly brought on 
and good roads have made it comfortable
  d     d     d h          d i       f     bl         motorbikes by ASHA husbands at a rate of Rs100 one 
                                                         t bik b ASHA h b d t              t f R 100
                                                      way!




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                                                  13
In Koshambi UP, to get this 1400 Rs cheque after 
                    delivery, she has to spend some 500‐700 as follows:  Dai 
                    100 150, mobike transport, medicine purchase,  trip to  
                    100‐150 mobike transport medicine purchase trip to
                    health center with ASHA, small sum to the baboo! The 
                    ASHA is unwilling to spend on transport.  In Bihar they 
                    have the van!


Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                       14
ASHAs
                                Pilot project for using mobile platform for 
The ASHA facilitator says       health education. UP is expanding such a 
everything is on paper!
everything is on paper!         scheme now!
                                  h           !




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                  15
ASHA as ‘agent’ ?
                                      g
      I heard some ASHAs have been used by ANMs to ask the JSY mother to 
                                            y
      cough up some money for issuing cheque or even take turns as a fake case! 
      Photographs are now made compulsory for JSY cheque. I saw 
      photographers working in the hospitals to produce photos for attachment 
      to the application.
      to the application
      Newspapers have printed this news in UP.
      One ASHA I met was apprehended by karyakartas for coercing JSY mothers.
      ASHAs are vulnerable to all such blackmail.




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                          16
ASHAs
                                        The CTY workers say that 80% of ASHAs  are 
                                        non0literate with a farji certificate (must be less!), but 
Not all ASHAs earn even 1000 a month    they are only good for  JSY and teekakaran! People  will 
                                           y        yg                                    p
from JSY, many of them cant read !
f    JSY        f th      t    d!       necer take medicines from them!




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                                        17
ASHAs talk of their woes, too much 
   work and little pay (what is the stat?)
      k dl l           ( h       h       )
ASHAs (in white sari) in a Bihar    ASHA in Karai‐Koshambi UP
PHC




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                       18
ASHA which way to go?
                  ASHA‐‐ which way to go?
                                            ASHA will educate about child health 
IN UP
IN UP                                       in UP; has its own version of IMNCI
                                            in UP has its own version of IMNCI
•    Some say most ASHAs are not 
     even literate!
•    In bothUP and Bihar, ASHAs told 
     In bothUP and Bihar, ASHAs told
     me they never got that regular 
     dava peti, but occasionally some 
     medicines!
•    But mobile phones can help even 
     But mobile phones can help even
     in this situation!
•    IMNCI program has been added 
     to their tasks!
•    In karari block, the CRY statistics 
     suggests IMR t be about  
     (Koshambi is a backward district 
     near Bundelkhand)


Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                       19
Anganwadis
Bihar‐Poshahar is a point of     UP‐No poshshar for last 3 
conflict and corruption
conflict and corruption          months (Oct 2012)
                                 months (Oct 2012)




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                     20
Subcenters
Chrnoic Staff shortage leading closure of 
subcenters, 
subcenters                                        Many SC in UP are closed
                                                  Many SC in UP are closed
This block has27 subcenters but no ANM to staff




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                    21
Both in UP & Bihar, having 4‐5 children 
   in families is a common feature!
      f l                  f
A young mother in Bihar
A young mother in Bihar     UP




Tuesday, October 30, 2012             22
Malaria is endemic, but it is for 
              informal doctors to treat!
              i f      l d t t t t!
Ubiquitous water bodies make malaria endemic 
                                                Malaria yes, but ASHAs don’t 
in Bihar‐ASHA don’t have even chloroquin
i ih          d ’ h            hl     i         have even chloroquin!
                                                have even chloroquin!




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                       23
Development 
Bihar has no electricity for 20 hrs a day, and some 
districts do only with  a sole CFL bulb Pvt generators! A 
symbolic lantern at 8 pm in Purniya villages! I saw 
 y                     p            y      g                 Villages in eastern UP are still very poor! 
similar situation in Hazipur next to Patna!                  Electricity is missing 20 hrs a day!
                                                             El t i it i i i 20 h            d !




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                                                   24
Roads




Tuesday, October 30, 2012           25
This 2 year boy (Akhilesh is his name) from a Koshambi
                    village has chronic suppurative ear infection ‘since birth’ 
                    as the mother says! But no one has really told her to seek 
                    higher care of an ENT surgeon! I gave her a chit to seek 
                    help ENT section of the Allahabad medical College 
                    help ENT section of the Allahabad medical College
                    Hospital. The father has lost his hand in a fodder machine 
                    and has no employment. The mother has to work and 
                    take care! I asked about ASHA’s help! She says she is only 
                    for money from pregnant mothers!

Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                          26
Where Does  ASHA program go from here?
               After 7 years of NRHM, it is now clear 
                  te yea s o           , t s o c ea
               that Pvt informal doctors could not be 
               eased out and ASHA has been reduced 
              to a largely non‐medical role of fetching 
                   l    l          d l l ff h
                   cases and gathering children for 
                             teekakaran!
                Many ASHAs are not literate and can 
                 hope to play any bigger role in the 
                     p    p y y gg
              politics of health care! A dai could have 
                been more effective for JSY and thru 
                           transit support!
                           t    it        t!
Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                  27
‘Informal’ doctors!
Medicine counters are a euphemism for untrained             Every village in this district has 1‐2 untrained doctors‐common 
doctors in Bihar‐doing valuable public services in Bihar    scene in UP. Villagers bank on them and will even protect them 
that faces shortage of trained  doctors. I counted 10       from action! In the 25 villages of the karyakartas, all but one had a 
suchmedical counters in one Bazaar in the Kumarkhand
              counters in one Bazaar in the Kumarkhand      doctor or two (4 were women). All Zola Chaap docs  have 
                                                            doctor or two (4 were women). All Zola Chaap docs have
block..there are many such bazaars every 5‐7 km             mobikes.
distance! All of them were busy  when I met them




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                                                                     28
SKY clinics of WHP in Bihar!
             SKY clinics of WHP in Bihar!
WHP is trying to improve the ‘informal’ doctors with 
teleclinic network, however the numbers and coverage 
                                                    g
is small!                                               Inside the sky clinic run by WHP!
                                                        Inside the sky clinic run by WHP!




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                               29
Good Schools but teachers not good  enough, so bihar is 
                                g            g              Schooling conditions in UP are pathetic, most 
full of pvt coaching classes even in villages in Purniya!   teachers on contract and  dilapidated bhavans !
                                                                h                   d dil id d bh




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                                                 30
Roads
Good Roads everywhere will pave way for more 
development! Made a big difference to girls goingto
       p              g               g g g
                                                      PMGS roads connect most 
high schools                                          villages 
                                                      villages




Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                        31
Tuesday, October 30, 2012   32
Even after CMO deaths in NRHM in UP, political 
                    pressure is telling! How do doctors work in such 
                    situations?

Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                               33
I was told that this Koshambi district has about 2000 gun licenses. I saw 
                    two karyakartas carry their guns. A kartoos costs about 300‐500 apiece. 
                    There are many unlicensed guns too. The people are used to terror. 
                    Who will govern and how? The very next district has the famous 
                              g                         y
                    RajaBhaiyya as  UP’s imp  minister.

Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                                        34
Summing up (1)
                                  g p( )
Bihar!                              UP
• Bihar has just woken up after     • UP enjoyed a better access 
                                                 d b
  2‐3 dark decades,                   and development than 
  development is slow.                Bihar, but faltered on health 
  Corruption and power deficit 
  C       ti     d        d fi it
  are two major problems!             system development
• Health care is hit with poor      • NRHM scams have 
  infrastructure, scant and 
  i f t t             t d             tarnished its image further
                                      t i h d it i         f th
  unhappy staff and abysmal 
                                    • 1 PHC for 1lakh pop!
  conditions!
• 1 PHC f 1 l kh l
  1 PHC for 1 lakh plus pop         • JSY has brought the crowds
                                      JSY has brought the crowds 
• JSY and free medicines have         to public hospitals, but is 
  brought back poor patients to       that all?
  health centers!
  health centers!

Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                         35
Summing up (2)
                                  g p( )
Bihar!                                UP
• Big Pvt sector and countless        • The RH/CHCs buildings are
                                        The RH/CHCs buildings are 
  ‘informal’ doctors have made          better than Bihar, but doctors 
  it difficult, but people bank on      arrive late.
  them! 
  them!                               • Pvt doctors and informal
                                            doctors and informal 
• RSBY is reportedly a scanda!          providers have infiltrated deep 
                                        into each village.
• ASHAs are merely into JSY & 
  teekakaran, and nasbandi
                ,                     • RSBY  is a scandal too.
• No one can solve the                • ASHAs are merely into JSY & 
  complaints!                           teekakaran, but some kind of 
                                        HBNC is being rolled out!
• Doctors unwilling to join, poor 
  pays and awful working              • No one will heed to
                                        No one will heed to 
  conditions.                           complaints
• Corruption and governance           • Corruption and governance 
  problems!                             problems!

Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                             36
The Questions are..
                            The Questions are..
Where do we begin health reforms?
•    Training more doctors and nurses?
•    Banning Informal doctors? Or thru their inclusion?
•    CBHM? RSBY?
•    Child survival?
•    Governance? 
     G            ?
•    Free medicines?
•    Increasing fund supply?
     Increasing fund supply?
•    what  is the period of framework?
•    Is NRHM helping—is it the right prescription?
                  p g            g p        p

Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                 37
MANY PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO 
   MANY PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO
IMPROVE THESE SYSTEMS, AND THERE 
                            IS SOME CHANGE! 
   BUT FOR A REAL UHC IT IS INDEED A 
   BUT FOR A REAL UHC IT IS INDEED A
     LONG WAY TO GO FROM HERE!


Tuesday, October 30, 2012                      38
UNFORTUNATELY MANY OF OUR 
STATES ARE IN THE SAME LEAGUE! 
 ARE WE ON THE RIGHT TRACK?
 ARE WE ON THE RIGHT TRACK?



Tuesday, October 30, 2012     39
Personal Note
I have been associated with the NRHM and ASHA 
program for some years now, and with health 
workers for over two decades right from the CHW 
    k f                 d d i h f             h CHW
scheme!  For two years I also participated in the 
Common Review Mission! This 2012 tour was more 
of out curiosity to know the ground realities after 7 
years of NRHM  in Bihar and UP. I have toured UP 
years of NRHM in Bihar and UP I have toured UP
earlier. In 2008. 
This is not a systematic fact finding mission, there 
was no sampling, no enquiries with officers  or 
g
getting the stats!  This is not the whole truth! I 
       g
respect men and women who are working for 
                                                             On a boat ride on the Kosi river in Purnea!
change in these conditions!
I toured 4 districts in the Kosi region in Bihar‐katihar, 
Madhepura, Purnea, Shupaul And then Vaishali near 
Patna! In UP I visited only one district. I took the 
travel funds from  our trust‐BharatVaidyaka sanatha! 
Friends from UP & Bihar helped, mainly Amulya
Nidhi and his network!



Tuesday, October 30, 2012                                                                                  40
Dr Shyam Ashtekar
                                 y
                                   26 October 2012



                            shyamashtekar@yahoo.com
                                  09422271544



Tuesday, October 30, 2012                             41

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Health care- Bihar & UP 2012-Dr Shyam Ashtekar

  • 1. Bihar & UP Bihar & UP Some Glimpses the Rural Public  Some Glimpses the Rural Public Health System  And Some Hard Core Issues d d by Shyam Ashtekar by Shyam Ashtekar (An unplanned personal visit in Oct 2012) Tuesday, October 30, 2012 1
  • 2. District Hospital Bihar‐the typical District Hospital. Shortage of  DH in Koshambi (80 km fro m Allahabad) UP‐This  ( ) doctors and nurses is writ large on each hospital! d d i i l h h i l! district hospital has no gynecologist for last 6 months! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2
  • 3. Hospital Wards  Typically, Bihar hospital wards are barely livable!  Empty wards in Koshambi’s CHC in UP: where are all  Tattered mattresses, rickety cots, torn bedsheets,  y the JSY admissions? (But I am sure other CHCs will have  ( cleanliness are all there to see! wards full of JSY cases) Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3
  • 4. A delivery room A delivery room Pathetic scene of a delivery room in PHC,  with broken del table‐ Bih P i ith b k d l t bl Bihar‐Purniya In Karari In Karari UP • I did not photgraph a labour room  here, since a mother was there  with her baby! • May be she had delivered here  just an hr before! • All the equipment was out of  work. The Pvt Dai conducted the  work The Pvt Dai conducted the birth , in presence of a nurse &  ASHA! Birthing is treated as dirty  work and the safai –after is called  naraksafai! • ASHAs from ‘good’ families have  already left their work! But Dai is  still there! (why did we start the  ASHA program at all?) ASHA t ll?) Tuesday, October 30, 2012 4
  • 5. Efforts to improve the system! p y One of the better DH‐‐ in Purniya dt, Bihar  (they have a  color code for bedsheets from Mon to Sunday! And it  y was followed!)  In Purnea district city In Purnea district city • There is 2 km road from Purnea station which is full of Pvt hospitals, clinics, medicine shops,  hospitals clinics medicine shops labs and may be touts! • The district Hospital marks the  end of this Pvt Health bazaar!  Patients from surrounding blocks  and districts plus from Nepal  come here for treatment! • It is said daily wage in this district  It i id d il i thi di t i t is around Rs 25/ but there are  also people who can pay. Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5
  • 6. Medicines in public hospitals p p A generic shop with 50% price in Katihar DH Bihar and  below a List of available generics in Bihar Medicine shortage • However, in Koshambi district, medicines were in  short supply, in Karari block  mini PHC only paracetamol was available as the MO  was available as the MO told me! The CHC  pharmacist also repeated  the same!  th ! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6
  • 7. OPDs & doctors OPDs & doctors UP‐At 12 o’ clock a homeopath came  to ‘dispose’ an  OPD in a Bihar PHC OPD..a crowd of 15 patients in the room..this is  p common • I did not photograph an  OPD in Bihar, but a doc in  PHC told me he attends 400  patients everyday with 1‐2  AYUSH docs to help! So he  AYUSH docs to help! So he must also be seeing a  crowd! Plus has 10 JSY  deliveries to attend daily!  d li i t tt d d il ! (this must be verified) Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7
  • 8. The neat looking PHC in Vaishali district, the queue is  The neat looking PHC in Vaishali district the queue is for JSY cheques! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8
  • 9. In PMCH patna In PMCH‐patna • I saw pathetic conditions in the PMCH (Patna Medical  College Hospital), with crowded wards and few doctors,  unmanageable conditions! Friction is common in this  PMCH where all of Bihar patients have to come if they  PMCH where all of Bihar patients have to come if they cant find help in districts! Bribes and attacks are –they  say‐common in PMCH! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9
  • 10. Problems about Govt doctors! Problems about Govt doctors! • The regular doctors in Bihar are permitted to do Pvt practice! So it is official to stay away and work in pvt as  i ! S i i ffi i l d ki per convenience! I heard an anesthetist comes once a  week for his CHC duty. Also, a Pvt doctor told me every  Govt doctor has to pay the MOH/CS monthly as a  d h h / hl ‘retainership’ no matter what you do! Salaries are paid  irregularly, sometimes not paid even for months  together! h • The On contract doctors—difficult to get in the first  p place—are also unwilling to work because of poor terms  g p of pay etc. • The conclusion‐both are cribbing and do not work  wholeheartedly! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10
  • 11. JSY beneficiaries JSY beneficiaries Long queues are common for JSY cheque of 1400/‐ may  gq q y UP‐JSY payment is beset with frauds,  be this is all that is institutional about delivery! is it increasing quality of care? is it increasing quality of care? Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11
  • 12. RSBY scandal in Bihar! RSBY scandal in Bihar! Such minimum set ups of illegal doctors  also  The apparently pro‐people  misused the RSBY harvest! 46000  hysterectomies in Bihar alone. And still counting hysterectomies in Bihar alone. And still counting scheme is in for heavy misuse! scheme is in for heavy misuse! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 12
  • 13. The JSY transport! UP bought the ambulances but they are still stranded in  102 In use in Bihar, this is quite useful in Bihar  the scandal, so mothers are mostly brought on  and good roads have made it comfortable d d d h d i f bl motorbikes by ASHA husbands at a rate of Rs100 one  t bik b ASHA h b d t t f R 100 way! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 13
  • 14. In Koshambi UP, to get this 1400 Rs cheque after  delivery, she has to spend some 500‐700 as follows:  Dai  100 150, mobike transport, medicine purchase,  trip to   100‐150 mobike transport medicine purchase trip to health center with ASHA, small sum to the baboo! The  ASHA is unwilling to spend on transport.  In Bihar they  have the van! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 14
  • 15. ASHAs Pilot project for using mobile platform for  The ASHA facilitator says  health education. UP is expanding such a  everything is on paper! everything is on paper! scheme now! h ! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 15
  • 16. ASHA as ‘agent’ ? g I heard some ASHAs have been used by ANMs to ask the JSY mother to  y cough up some money for issuing cheque or even take turns as a fake case!  Photographs are now made compulsory for JSY cheque. I saw  photographers working in the hospitals to produce photos for attachment  to the application. to the application Newspapers have printed this news in UP. One ASHA I met was apprehended by karyakartas for coercing JSY mothers. ASHAs are vulnerable to all such blackmail. Tuesday, October 30, 2012 16
  • 17. ASHAs The CTY workers say that 80% of ASHAs  are  non0literate with a farji certificate (must be less!), but  Not all ASHAs earn even 1000 a month  they are only good for  JSY and teekakaran! People  will  y yg p from JSY, many of them cant read ! f JSY f th t d! necer take medicines from them! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 17
  • 18. ASHAs talk of their woes, too much  work and little pay (what is the stat?) k dl l ( h h ) ASHAs (in white sari) in a Bihar  ASHA in Karai‐Koshambi UP PHC Tuesday, October 30, 2012 18
  • 19. ASHA which way to go? ASHA‐‐ which way to go? ASHA will educate about child health  IN UP IN UP in UP; has its own version of IMNCI in UP has its own version of IMNCI • Some say most ASHAs are not  even literate! • In bothUP and Bihar, ASHAs told  In bothUP and Bihar, ASHAs told me they never got that regular  dava peti, but occasionally some  medicines! • But mobile phones can help even  But mobile phones can help even in this situation! • IMNCI program has been added  to their tasks! • In karari block, the CRY statistics  suggests IMR t be about   (Koshambi is a backward district  near Bundelkhand) Tuesday, October 30, 2012 19
  • 20. Anganwadis Bihar‐Poshahar is a point of  UP‐No poshshar for last 3  conflict and corruption conflict and corruption months (Oct 2012) months (Oct 2012) Tuesday, October 30, 2012 20
  • 21. Subcenters Chrnoic Staff shortage leading closure of  subcenters,  subcenters Many SC in UP are closed Many SC in UP are closed This block has27 subcenters but no ANM to staff Tuesday, October 30, 2012 21
  • 22. Both in UP & Bihar, having 4‐5 children  in families is a common feature! f l f A young mother in Bihar A young mother in Bihar UP Tuesday, October 30, 2012 22
  • 23. Malaria is endemic, but it is for  informal doctors to treat! i f l d t t t t! Ubiquitous water bodies make malaria endemic  Malaria yes, but ASHAs don’t  in Bihar‐ASHA don’t have even chloroquin i ih d ’ h hl i have even chloroquin! have even chloroquin! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 23
  • 24. Development  Bihar has no electricity for 20 hrs a day, and some  districts do only with  a sole CFL bulb Pvt generators! A  symbolic lantern at 8 pm in Purniya villages! I saw  y p y g Villages in eastern UP are still very poor!  similar situation in Hazipur next to Patna! Electricity is missing 20 hrs a day! El t i it i i i 20 h d ! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 24
  • 26. This 2 year boy (Akhilesh is his name) from a Koshambi village has chronic suppurative ear infection ‘since birth’  as the mother says! But no one has really told her to seek  higher care of an ENT surgeon! I gave her a chit to seek  help ENT section of the Allahabad medical College  help ENT section of the Allahabad medical College Hospital. The father has lost his hand in a fodder machine  and has no employment. The mother has to work and  take care! I asked about ASHA’s help! She says she is only  for money from pregnant mothers! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 26
  • 27. Where Does  ASHA program go from here? After 7 years of NRHM, it is now clear  te yea s o , t s o c ea that Pvt informal doctors could not be  eased out and ASHA has been reduced  to a largely non‐medical role of fetching  l l d l l ff h cases and gathering children for  teekakaran! Many ASHAs are not literate and can  hope to play any bigger role in the  p p y y gg politics of health care! A dai could have  been more effective for JSY and thru  transit support! t it t! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 27
  • 28. ‘Informal’ doctors! Medicine counters are a euphemism for untrained  Every village in this district has 1‐2 untrained doctors‐common  doctors in Bihar‐doing valuable public services in Bihar  scene in UP. Villagers bank on them and will even protect them  that faces shortage of trained  doctors. I counted 10  from action! In the 25 villages of the karyakartas, all but one had a  suchmedical counters in one Bazaar in the Kumarkhand counters in one Bazaar in the Kumarkhand doctor or two (4 were women). All Zola Chaap docs  have  doctor or two (4 were women). All Zola Chaap docs have block..there are many such bazaars every 5‐7 km  mobikes. distance! All of them were busy  when I met them Tuesday, October 30, 2012 28
  • 29. SKY clinics of WHP in Bihar! SKY clinics of WHP in Bihar! WHP is trying to improve the ‘informal’ doctors with  teleclinic network, however the numbers and coverage  g is small! Inside the sky clinic run by WHP! Inside the sky clinic run by WHP! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 29
  • 30. Good Schools but teachers not good  enough, so bihar is  g g Schooling conditions in UP are pathetic, most  full of pvt coaching classes even in villages in Purniya! teachers on contract and  dilapidated bhavans ! h d dil id d bh Tuesday, October 30, 2012 30
  • 31. Roads Good Roads everywhere will pave way for more  development! Made a big difference to girls goingto p g g g g PMGS roads connect most  high schools villages  villages Tuesday, October 30, 2012 31
  • 33. Even after CMO deaths in NRHM in UP, political  pressure is telling! How do doctors work in such  situations? Tuesday, October 30, 2012 33
  • 34. I was told that this Koshambi district has about 2000 gun licenses. I saw  two karyakartas carry their guns. A kartoos costs about 300‐500 apiece.  There are many unlicensed guns too. The people are used to terror.  Who will govern and how? The very next district has the famous  g y RajaBhaiyya as  UP’s imp  minister. Tuesday, October 30, 2012 34
  • 35. Summing up (1) g p( ) Bihar! UP • Bihar has just woken up after  • UP enjoyed a better access  d b 2‐3 dark decades,  and development than  development is slow.  Bihar, but faltered on health  Corruption and power deficit  C ti d d fi it are two major problems! system development • Health care is hit with poor  • NRHM scams have  infrastructure, scant and  i f t t t d tarnished its image further t i h d it i f th unhappy staff and abysmal  • 1 PHC for 1lakh pop! conditions! • 1 PHC f 1 l kh l 1 PHC for 1 lakh plus pop • JSY has brought the crowds JSY has brought the crowds  • JSY and free medicines have  to public hospitals, but is  brought back poor patients to  that all? health centers! health centers! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 35
  • 36. Summing up (2) g p( ) Bihar! UP • Big Pvt sector and countless  • The RH/CHCs buildings are The RH/CHCs buildings are  ‘informal’ doctors have made  better than Bihar, but doctors  it difficult, but people bank on  arrive late. them!  them! • Pvt doctors and informal doctors and informal  • RSBY is reportedly a scanda! providers have infiltrated deep  into each village. • ASHAs are merely into JSY &  teekakaran, and nasbandi , • RSBY  is a scandal too. • No one can solve the  • ASHAs are merely into JSY &  complaints! teekakaran, but some kind of  HBNC is being rolled out! • Doctors unwilling to join, poor  pays and awful working  • No one will heed to No one will heed to  conditions.  complaints • Corruption and governance  • Corruption and governance  problems! problems! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 36
  • 37. The Questions are.. The Questions are.. Where do we begin health reforms? • Training more doctors and nurses? • Banning Informal doctors? Or thru their inclusion? • CBHM? RSBY? • Child survival? • Governance?  G ? • Free medicines? • Increasing fund supply? Increasing fund supply? • what  is the period of framework? • Is NRHM helping—is it the right prescription? p g g p p Tuesday, October 30, 2012 37
  • 38. MANY PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO  MANY PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE THESE SYSTEMS, AND THERE  IS SOME CHANGE!  BUT FOR A REAL UHC IT IS INDEED A  BUT FOR A REAL UHC IT IS INDEED A LONG WAY TO GO FROM HERE! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 38
  • 40. Personal Note I have been associated with the NRHM and ASHA  program for some years now, and with health  workers for over two decades right from the CHW  k f d d i h f h CHW scheme!  For two years I also participated in the  Common Review Mission! This 2012 tour was more  of out curiosity to know the ground realities after 7  years of NRHM  in Bihar and UP. I have toured UP  years of NRHM in Bihar and UP I have toured UP earlier. In 2008.  This is not a systematic fact finding mission, there  was no sampling, no enquiries with officers  or  g getting the stats!  This is not the whole truth! I  g respect men and women who are working for  On a boat ride on the Kosi river in Purnea! change in these conditions! I toured 4 districts in the Kosi region in Bihar‐katihar,  Madhepura, Purnea, Shupaul And then Vaishali near  Patna! In UP I visited only one district. I took the  travel funds from  our trust‐BharatVaidyaka sanatha!  Friends from UP & Bihar helped, mainly Amulya Nidhi and his network! Tuesday, October 30, 2012 40
  • 41. Dr Shyam Ashtekar y 26 October 2012 shyamashtekar@yahoo.com 09422271544 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 41