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On-line policing is
different
Observations of a private investigation company
Ronald Prins
25 september 2013
25-9-2013Europol-Interpol Cybercrime Conference2
1. On-line we are blind
25-9-2013Europol-Interpol Cybercrime Conference3
House Computer
Break-in house
left neighbour
100%...
1. On-line we are blind
• Leads to bigger cases
• More police patrolling on-line? (Snowden!)
• How do we replace the eyes ...
2. Current legislation
• Built for the off-line world
• Police instruments work if you have
‘access’ to suspects
• Need mo...
Private investigation companies
25-9-2013Europol-Interpol Cybercrime Conference6
Private investigation companies
• Call them and they –do- respond
• They don’t care about attribution
• No direct link to ...
More effective? Really?
25-9-2013Europol-Interpol Cybercrime Conference8
Final words
• Cyber security activities are not in pace with
the increasing dependency on the Internet
• Work with private...
Questions?
• @cryptoron
• cryptoron@nsa.org
25-9-2013Europol-Interpol Cybercrime Conference10
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Europol ronald prins sept 25 v1.1 online version

  1. 1. On-line policing is different Observations of a private investigation company Ronald Prins 25 september 2013
  2. 2. 25-9-2013Europol-Interpol Cybercrime Conference2
  3. 3. 1. On-line we are blind 25-9-2013Europol-Interpol Cybercrime Conference3 House Computer Break-in house left neighbour 100% Break-in computer 2% Chance of police response 60% Chance of police response 0% Homecoming and detection 98% Detect hacker in your computer 2% Burglar now in your house 0% Hacker now in your computer 10%
  4. 4. 1. On-line we are blind • Leads to bigger cases • More police patrolling on-line? (Snowden!) • How do we replace the eyes and ears of the community? • Companies have SOC’s and active response, the public doesn’t 25-9-2013Europol-Interpol Cybercrime Conference4
  5. 5. 2. Current legislation • Built for the off-line world • Police instruments work if you have ‘access’ to suspects • Need more on-line muscle power (hacking back, across borders) 25-9-2013Europol-Interpol Cybercrime Conference5
  6. 6. Private investigation companies 25-9-2013Europol-Interpol Cybercrime Conference6
  7. 7. Private investigation companies • Call them and they –do- respond • They don’t care about attribution • No direct link to regulators • Victim is more in control • Are more ‘effective’ on-line 25-9-2013Europol-Interpol Cybercrime Conference7
  8. 8. More effective? Really? 25-9-2013Europol-Interpol Cybercrime Conference8
  9. 9. Final words • Cyber security activities are not in pace with the increasing dependency on the Internet • Work with private companies but don’t become too dependent • Work on serious new legislation (patrolling, across borders, hacking back) 25-9-2013Europol-Interpol Cybercrime Conference9
  10. 10. Questions? • @cryptoron • cryptoron@nsa.org 25-9-2013Europol-Interpol Cybercrime Conference10

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