Digitisation, open and online, digital innovation, digital participation, all press on and ask questions of values based organisations. Based on work with a range of Third Sector partners over a number of years this paper explores how values based organisation understand and find their place in messy landscape. Suggesting it is not always appropriate for values based organisations to adopt practices from private sector digital disruptors, as these start with different assumptions and values, but instead develop their own approaches based on their organisational values and the needs of the people they support. Using work with a range of partners in different sector, from Health and Social Care to Trade Unions the paper looks at how values based organisations have approached this tension. Sharing what has been learnt from working in partnership, and how this has informed a mutual understanding of how to design and produce digital artefacts and critically the social and situated nature of how they are used.