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Are Your Clients a Pain ?
MI , SFT, Brene’ Brown, Parallel Processes & Pain Recovery Strategies
July 21, 2016
Core Conference
Louise Stanger Ed.D, LCSW, CIP
With James Flowers PHD, Director
Kemah Palms, Houston Texas and a
Pain Recovery Expert
Dr Stanger is An Author, Educator,
Writer, Clinician and Interventions and
Thought Leader on Families
Objectives
Identify, Describe & Explain Resistant Clients
Learn alignment strategies using MI, SFT, Daring way & Rising
Strong strategies
Practice Crucial Conversations
Identify Role of Shame and the Practice of Empathy and Compassion
Show how these strategies may be integrated into practice using case
examples
How Do Our Clients arrive ?
Substance Abuse
Mental Health
Chronic Pain
Legal Issues
Money Problems
Relationship Failures
Sex, Shopping, Gambling
Intergenerational Wounds
Attributes of Healthy Families
McMannis PHD & MacMcMannis MSW
Talking and Loving Balancing Closeness & Difference
Expressing Language Accepting Difference
Adapting to Change Seeing The Positive
Sharing Time together Effective Problem Solving
Who’s in Charge Parenting Together
Keeping The Status Quo
SA. MH, CP etc .
Organizing structure
Unconscious and
Consciously Gratification
Strategies must be
employed that change
usual ways of relating,
categorizing , and thinking
Family and Confabulations
Before Treatment
CONFUSED
BEWILDERED
CONFABULATORS- DENIAL
MINIMIZE
FEAR DRIVEN
FRAZZLED
SHAME and GUILT

What Kind Of Families do You
Meet
AGREEABLE
ANALYSIS
INVISIBLE
QUESTIONER
KNOW IT ALL
COMPLAINER
TALKER
WORRIER
MICO-MANAGER
BOOMERRANG
HAVE YOU EARNED THE RIGHT TO
HEAR ANOTHER’S STORY ?
ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT FAMILIES
THAT SEEK OUR HELP
HURTING EXPERTS
MOTIVATED
SEEKING SOLUTIONS
WOUNDED FAMILY OF ORIGIN
BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL IN SEEKING
SOLUTIONS
THEY MAY NOT SEE THEIR PART IN THE
PROBLEM -want you to FIX LOVE ONE
AUTHENTIC- VULNERABLE-
COURAGEOUS
BRAVING - Brown
Am I clear in helping client accept own
boundaries ?
Am I reliable ? Do I do what I say I will do?
Do I hold myself accountable-Ethics,
professional standards &, seek
collaboration when necessary
Confidentiality
Nonjudgemental
Am I generous in my interpretation of self
and others ?
Motivational Interviewing
Miller and Rolnick
NOT a Curriculum
ROLLING WITH RESISTANCE
DIRECTIONAL-GOAL
MOTIVATION IS BOTH EXTRINSIC
AND INTRINSIC
SCALING QUESTIONS
DECISIONAL BALANCE
CHANGE TALK
START WHERE YOUR CLIENT IS
Different Ways of Talking
- “MY Mother is driving crazy”
SIMPLE
AMPLIFIED - Exaggerate
“It would suck to lose my job or my
parents support because of my partying
but I do not want to quit just because of
that .
DOUBLE SIDED

SOLUTION FOCUSED
InSoon Young & Peter Berg
HERE & NOW
NOT NECESSARY TTO KNOW
DEEPER CAUSE
COUNSELOR EXPERTISE CALL
SMALL CHANGE Can Lead To Big
Change
SFT STRATEGIES
PROBLEM TALK
SEPARATE THE PERSON FROM THE PROBLEM
MIRACLE QUESTION
EXCEPTIONS
SCALING QUESTIONS -CONFIDENCE
GOALS -FEEDBACK
COMPLIMENTS
TASK SETTING 





The DARING WAY
SHAME-GUILT - HUMILIATION
COURAGE -asking what you need,
seeking support, owning your story ,
setting boundaries
Vulnerability
THESE AE NOT THERAPUTIC
STRATEGIES
STORY
INDIGENOUS TO ALL OF THIS IS
GRIEF
LOSS
INTERGENERATIONAL
TRAUMA WORK
Parallel Processes
Krissey Pozak
Families Grow Alongside of Identified
Loved One
Letting Go
Reflective Listening
Learning How to Speak
Shifting Responsibility Back to Your
Loved One
Separated but coordinated processes
bringing in our Clients motivators
INTERVENTION- BAR
RELATIONAL ATTACHMENT
The TEAM
3 Sisters
2 Attorneys
Family
Friends
Relatives
Security
Modalities USED
MI- Rolling With Resistance
SFT- In A Perfect World what would life
look like
Brown- You Can Write Your Own Story
Family MAPPING
Parallel Processes-
You Can ALL FALL UP
Paradigm Shift
Moving From Passive :Cure me
Doctor to
Being an ACTIVE
PARTICIPANT
Meet Harriet - 62 y.o Female
How Harriet’s Lights Went Out
Small Tumor on Cervical
Spine- Operation-Radiation &
Chemo
Oops clipped a nerve-
INTENSE PAIN = OxyContin,
Xanax , Ambien on and on and
on
Finally ended with a Actig
Fentanyal Lollipop
Losses
Lost Family Business
Lost Insurance
Lost Family Money
Lost Self Esteem
Lost Ability to Walk
Lost Her Smile
Strategies
15 day detox- Pain still 20% due to
Hyperalgesia
Education
Cognitive Behavioral Therapy
Mindfulness
Mediation
Yoga etc
Peer Support
OutComes
REDUCED PAIN
45 days later lightly jogging 3
miles
SMILE REMADE
BUSINESS BACK ON TRACK
MARRIAGE BACK ON TRACK
GRANDMOTHER DUTY
MEET KING BABY and His
Parents
MULTIPLE TREATMENT EPISODES
ANXIOUS PARENTS
NO BOUNDARIES
2 years of work with one
9 months with another
Meet JAVIER
Car Accident- 8 years
ago
Previous Experience
with AA
Intergenerational
Stylist for Major Stars
Meet Jack
50 yo male
Previous TreatmentPrevious Treatments
Laminectomy L3/L4, L4/L5
Outcome – increased pain,
radiculopathy
Lumbar fusion and Lysis of
adhesions
Outcome – failed fusion, pain
continued
Physical therapy
Outcome – moderate but
temporary
Jack
Presupposed Treatment: Drug Delivery with morphine
Behavioral Assessment ; Clinical Interview , MMPI-2, MPI,BAI/
BDI , Chemical use questionnaire
RESULTS:: Activity < 3, Reported 10/10 constant pain, Sleep < 3, Used
Alcohol to increase drug effect, Severe Anxiety/Depression, Results of
the MPI indicate that the patient is experiencing average pain
severity, above average interference (+2 SD), below average life control
(-2 SD) and an above average level of affective distress (+1 SD). These
findings are compared with other chronic pain sufferers. A
significantly reduced general activity level (-2 SD) was endorsed. These
findings are consistent with many chronic pain sufferers
Goals
May not be the Abolition of
pain but adaptation to Pain
ACCEPTANCE CAN BE
KEY
Treatment Plan
Biofeedback and relaxation
therapy
Psychophysiological education
CBT , MI, Group Therapy
Postpone implantable drug
delivery
QUEEN BABY and her MOM
Intergenerational
Change Agreements
Treatment for Whole Family
Resources
The Daring WAY & Rising Strong- Brown
Crucial Conversations -Patterson et al
Parallel Processes- Prozatek
Journey of The Heroic Parent-Reedy
Motivational Interviewing- Miller & Rollnick
http:www.motivationalinterviewing.org
Solution Focused Therapy - Young & Berg
Dr. Louise Stanger http://www.allaboutinterventions.com
Are You A Helicopter or Submarine ? Sober World -, Spring 2016 Stanger
Pain Resources
Center for Disease Control, March 2016
Scientific America -Crucial Conservations , May, 2016
ASAM National Practice Guideline for the Use of Medications in the Treatment of Addiction and
Opioid Use,2016
Chou R, Turner JA, Devine EB, et al. The effectiveness and risks of long-term opioid therapy for
chronic pain: a systematic review for a National Institutes of Health Pathways to Prevention
Workshop. Ann Int Med. 2015;162(4):276-286.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. NCHS Data Brief. Prescription opioid analgesic use
among adults:United States 1999-2012 , Number 189, February,2015
2013 National Drug Student Data Bank
Kemah Palms Recovery https://kemahpalms.com
An Intervention Guidebook
for Loved Ones and Their Families
Learn
Thrive:to
LOUISE STANGER
ED.D., L.C.S.W., BRI II, CIP

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Are Your Clients a Pain?

  • 1. Are Your Clients a Pain ? MI , SFT, Brene’ Brown, Parallel Processes & Pain Recovery Strategies July 21, 2016 Core Conference
  • 2. Louise Stanger Ed.D, LCSW, CIP With James Flowers PHD, Director Kemah Palms, Houston Texas and a Pain Recovery Expert Dr Stanger is An Author, Educator, Writer, Clinician and Interventions and Thought Leader on Families
  • 3. Objectives Identify, Describe & Explain Resistant Clients Learn alignment strategies using MI, SFT, Daring way & Rising Strong strategies Practice Crucial Conversations Identify Role of Shame and the Practice of Empathy and Compassion Show how these strategies may be integrated into practice using case examples
  • 4. How Do Our Clients arrive ? Substance Abuse Mental Health Chronic Pain Legal Issues Money Problems Relationship Failures Sex, Shopping, Gambling Intergenerational Wounds
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  • 8. Attributes of Healthy Families McMannis PHD & MacMcMannis MSW Talking and Loving Balancing Closeness & Difference Expressing Language Accepting Difference Adapting to Change Seeing The Positive Sharing Time together Effective Problem Solving Who’s in Charge Parenting Together
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  • 10. Keeping The Status Quo SA. MH, CP etc . Organizing structure Unconscious and Consciously Gratification Strategies must be employed that change usual ways of relating, categorizing , and thinking
  • 13. What Kind Of Families do You Meet AGREEABLE ANALYSIS INVISIBLE QUESTIONER KNOW IT ALL COMPLAINER TALKER WORRIER MICO-MANAGER BOOMERRANG
  • 14. HAVE YOU EARNED THE RIGHT TO HEAR ANOTHER’S STORY ?
  • 15. ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT FAMILIES THAT SEEK OUR HELP HURTING EXPERTS MOTIVATED SEEKING SOLUTIONS WOUNDED FAMILY OF ORIGIN BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL IN SEEKING SOLUTIONS THEY MAY NOT SEE THEIR PART IN THE PROBLEM -want you to FIX LOVE ONE AUTHENTIC- VULNERABLE- COURAGEOUS
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  • 17. BRAVING - Brown Am I clear in helping client accept own boundaries ? Am I reliable ? Do I do what I say I will do? Do I hold myself accountable-Ethics, professional standards &, seek collaboration when necessary Confidentiality Nonjudgemental Am I generous in my interpretation of self and others ?
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  • 19. Motivational Interviewing Miller and Rolnick NOT a Curriculum ROLLING WITH RESISTANCE DIRECTIONAL-GOAL MOTIVATION IS BOTH EXTRINSIC AND INTRINSIC SCALING QUESTIONS DECISIONAL BALANCE CHANGE TALK
  • 20. START WHERE YOUR CLIENT IS
  • 21. Different Ways of Talking - “MY Mother is driving crazy” SIMPLE AMPLIFIED - Exaggerate “It would suck to lose my job or my parents support because of my partying but I do not want to quit just because of that . DOUBLE SIDED

  • 22. SOLUTION FOCUSED InSoon Young & Peter Berg HERE & NOW NOT NECESSARY TTO KNOW DEEPER CAUSE COUNSELOR EXPERTISE CALL SMALL CHANGE Can Lead To Big Change
  • 23. SFT STRATEGIES PROBLEM TALK SEPARATE THE PERSON FROM THE PROBLEM MIRACLE QUESTION EXCEPTIONS SCALING QUESTIONS -CONFIDENCE GOALS -FEEDBACK COMPLIMENTS TASK SETTING 
 
 

  • 24. The DARING WAY SHAME-GUILT - HUMILIATION COURAGE -asking what you need, seeking support, owning your story , setting boundaries Vulnerability THESE AE NOT THERAPUTIC STRATEGIES
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  • 27. INDIGENOUS TO ALL OF THIS IS GRIEF LOSS INTERGENERATIONAL TRAUMA WORK
  • 28. Parallel Processes Krissey Pozak Families Grow Alongside of Identified Loved One Letting Go Reflective Listening Learning How to Speak Shifting Responsibility Back to Your Loved One Separated but coordinated processes bringing in our Clients motivators
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  • 32. The TEAM 3 Sisters 2 Attorneys Family Friends Relatives Security
  • 33. Modalities USED MI- Rolling With Resistance SFT- In A Perfect World what would life look like Brown- You Can Write Your Own Story Family MAPPING Parallel Processes- You Can ALL FALL UP
  • 34. Paradigm Shift Moving From Passive :Cure me Doctor to Being an ACTIVE PARTICIPANT
  • 35. Meet Harriet - 62 y.o Female
  • 36. How Harriet’s Lights Went Out Small Tumor on Cervical Spine- Operation-Radiation & Chemo Oops clipped a nerve- INTENSE PAIN = OxyContin, Xanax , Ambien on and on and on Finally ended with a Actig Fentanyal Lollipop
  • 37. Losses Lost Family Business Lost Insurance Lost Family Money Lost Self Esteem Lost Ability to Walk Lost Her Smile
  • 38. Strategies 15 day detox- Pain still 20% due to Hyperalgesia Education Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Mindfulness Mediation Yoga etc Peer Support
  • 39. OutComes REDUCED PAIN 45 days later lightly jogging 3 miles SMILE REMADE BUSINESS BACK ON TRACK MARRIAGE BACK ON TRACK GRANDMOTHER DUTY
  • 40. MEET KING BABY and His Parents MULTIPLE TREATMENT EPISODES ANXIOUS PARENTS NO BOUNDARIES 2 years of work with one 9 months with another
  • 41. Meet JAVIER Car Accident- 8 years ago Previous Experience with AA Intergenerational Stylist for Major Stars
  • 42. Meet Jack 50 yo male Previous TreatmentPrevious Treatments Laminectomy L3/L4, L4/L5 Outcome – increased pain, radiculopathy Lumbar fusion and Lysis of adhesions Outcome – failed fusion, pain continued Physical therapy Outcome – moderate but temporary
  • 43. Jack Presupposed Treatment: Drug Delivery with morphine Behavioral Assessment ; Clinical Interview , MMPI-2, MPI,BAI/ BDI , Chemical use questionnaire RESULTS:: Activity < 3, Reported 10/10 constant pain, Sleep < 3, Used Alcohol to increase drug effect, Severe Anxiety/Depression, Results of the MPI indicate that the patient is experiencing average pain severity, above average interference (+2 SD), below average life control (-2 SD) and an above average level of affective distress (+1 SD). These findings are compared with other chronic pain sufferers. A significantly reduced general activity level (-2 SD) was endorsed. These findings are consistent with many chronic pain sufferers
  • 44. Goals May not be the Abolition of pain but adaptation to Pain ACCEPTANCE CAN BE KEY
  • 45. Treatment Plan Biofeedback and relaxation therapy Psychophysiological education CBT , MI, Group Therapy Postpone implantable drug delivery
  • 46. QUEEN BABY and her MOM Intergenerational Change Agreements Treatment for Whole Family
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  • 48. Resources The Daring WAY & Rising Strong- Brown Crucial Conversations -Patterson et al Parallel Processes- Prozatek Journey of The Heroic Parent-Reedy Motivational Interviewing- Miller & Rollnick http:www.motivationalinterviewing.org Solution Focused Therapy - Young & Berg Dr. Louise Stanger http://www.allaboutinterventions.com Are You A Helicopter or Submarine ? Sober World -, Spring 2016 Stanger
  • 49. Pain Resources Center for Disease Control, March 2016 Scientific America -Crucial Conservations , May, 2016 ASAM National Practice Guideline for the Use of Medications in the Treatment of Addiction and Opioid Use,2016 Chou R, Turner JA, Devine EB, et al. The effectiveness and risks of long-term opioid therapy for chronic pain: a systematic review for a National Institutes of Health Pathways to Prevention Workshop. Ann Int Med. 2015;162(4):276-286. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. NCHS Data Brief. Prescription opioid analgesic use among adults:United States 1999-2012 , Number 189, February,2015 2013 National Drug Student Data Bank Kemah Palms Recovery https://kemahpalms.com
  • 50. An Intervention Guidebook for Loved Ones and Their Families Learn Thrive:to LOUISE STANGER ED.D., L.C.S.W., BRI II, CIP