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Judge Paul Grewal, Jessica Mederson, Esq., And Joshua Gilliland, Esq., Of The Legal Geeks
Tatooine Law
Legal Lessons from Star Wars
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Agenda
✤ Judges Love Star Wars
✤ Secret Marriages
✤ Clone Rights
✤ Defense of Others
✤ Law’s Empire
✤ Hate Crimes
✤ Medical Malpractice
✤ Who Owns R2D2 & CP3O?
✤ Forcing Confessions
✤ Vader on Contracts
✤ Employee Safety in Jabba’s
Palace
✤ Can You Torture a Droid?
✤ Han Shot First
Sunday, July 12, 2015
StarWars
Judicial Quotes
Age of Judges: 40s to 60s
A 46 year-old Judge was 9
years-old when Star Wars came
out.
“In fact, on August 1, 2012 your
tweets will be sent across the
universe to a galaxy far, far
away.”
People of the State of New York v. Malcolm Harris, Docket No.
2011NY080152 (N.Y. Crim. Ct. June 30, 2012).
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Long Age, In A Courthouse, Far, Far, Away....
Judge Matthew Sciarrino’s Chambers
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Jedi Judges
This attempted diversion—the legal equivalent of
Obi-Wan Kenobi’s “These aren’t the droids you’re
looking for,” see Star Wars Episode IV: A New
Hope (Lucasfilm 1977)—is unavailing. “United
States v. Stapleton, 2013 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 108189,
23-24 (E.D. Ky. July 31, 2013).
In addressing an accounting issue and net
proceeds, the Seventh Circuit explained, “Size
matters not, Yoda tells us. Nor does time.”  U.S.
v. Hodge, 558 F.3d 630, 632 (7th Cir. 2009).
“Even Yoda, the diminutive Star
Wars guru, recognized that
sometimes in life we have to fish or
cut bait. ‘Do or do not. There is no
try.'”  Com. v. Marshall, 345 S.W.3d
822, 835 (Ky. 2011) (Cunningham, J.,
dissenting).
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Did Anakin and Padme Have aValid Marriage?
Are there secret marriages?
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Are Clones “People”?
Clones Created for War.
However, had self-
awareness, intelligence,
and consciousness.
Are Clones State
Property?
Sunday, July 12, 2015
What is a Clone?
Therapeutic cloning is to be distinguished from reproductive cloning which seeks to
reproduce entire organisms. “Dolly” the famous, or infamous, sheep created by the Roslin
Institute in Scotland is an example of reproductive cloning.
Advanced Cell Tech. v. Infigen, Inc., 2002 Mass. Super. LEXIS 377, 2-3 (Mass. Super. Ct. June 18, 2002)
The Star Wars Clones are products of reproductive cloning.
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Attack of the Clones’ Doctors
The Clone Wars episodes “The Unknown,” “Conspiracy,” “Fugitive” and “Orders”
centered on Clone Trooper Tup who suffered a breakdown from a defective chip
Fives tried to get Tup proper medical treatment.
Issues of treatment turn on whether the Republic or Kamino owned the Clones.
Doctors proposed a medical exam to kill Tup to find the illness that caused Tup to kill
a Jedi.
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Obi-Wan Kenobi’s Defense of Luke
Defense of Others
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Empire of Law
StarWars Rebels
“All Trade Regulated Through
the Empire”
Fruit vendor charged with
treason for not registering fruit
Military Conducts Law
Enforcement
“Forced Labor” Camps
Sunday, July 12, 2015
The Empire and Eminent Domain
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Anakin Skywalker Killing Sand
People After Mother’s Death
Hate
Crime?
Insanity
Defense?
It is an affirmative defense
to a prosecution under any
Federal statute that, at the
time of the commission of
the acts constituting the
offense, the defendant, as a
result of a severe mental
disease or defect, was
unable to appreciate the
nature and quality or the
wrongfulness of his acts.
Mental disease or defect
does not otherwise
constitute a defense.
18 USCS § 17(a)
(a) "Hate crime" means a
criminal act committed, in whole
or in part, because of one or
more of the following actual or
perceived characteristics of the
victim:
(1) Disability.
(2) Gender.
(3) Nationality.
(4) Race or ethnicity.
(5) Religion.
(6) Sexual orientation.
(7) Association with a person
or group with one or more of
these actual or perceived
characteristics.
Cal Pen Code § 422.55
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Droid Ownership
Who Owns R2D2 & C3PO?
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Tracing Ownership
R2D2: Queen Amidala’s state
property on Naboo
R2D2 continues in Amidala’s service
as a Senator
C3PO: Built by Anakin Skywalker (as
a child, while owned as a slave)
C3PO is left with Shmi Skywalker in
slavery
Sunday, July 12, 2015
CP3O as Separate Property
C3PO was Shmi’s personal property at her death.
Anakin probable owner, unless there was a will or prior
transmutation of property to Cliegg Lars.
Droids would remain separate property of each spouse,
unless gifted to other spouse.
Padme owned R2D2 until her death.
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Alternate
Theories
Anakin’s battery of Padme caused
her death, thus cutting off his rights
to any of Padme’s personal property
or community property. (See, Cal
Prob Code § 250, which prohibits
someone who kills a descendant from
inheriting under interest succession or a
will). 
Sunday, July 12, 2015
A New Owner?
Senator Leia Organa had
possession, custody and
control of the Droids.
Leia exercised her property
rights over R2D2 by
sending him on the mission
to find Obi Wan Kenobi.
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Is an Escape Pod a Life Boat?
A “derelict vessel” is
one that is abandoned
and deserted. This can
be by accident,
necessity or voluntary
actions, without hope
of recovery.
PAUL W. REISS, ET AL. v. ONE SCHAT-HARDING
LIFEBOAT NO. 120776 # 1, ET AL., 2006 AMC 1401 (D.S.C.
2006), citing Rowe v. the Brig, 1 Mason 372, 20 F.Cas. 1281,
1282, No. 12,093 (C.C.Mass. 1818).
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Is Luke the Legal Owner?
Valid sale to
Owen?
Droids inherited
by Luke?
Did Luke gift
Droids to Jabba?
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Forcing Confessions with
Truth Serum
No Forced Confessions
“Revolting to the sense of justice.”
Many Courts will not allow any
truth serum results or expert
testimony over truth serum results
from expert witnesses, until it is
proven with “verifiable certainty
that truth serum compels a person
to tell the truth.” Harper v. State, 249
Ga. 519, 526 (Ga. 1982).
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Vader on Contracts
Contract Modification and Duress
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Employee Safety in Jabba’s Palace
An employer:
(1) shall furnish to each of his employees employment and a place of employment which are free
from recognized hazards that are causing or are likely to cause death or serious physical harm to
his employees;
(2) shall comply with occupational safety and health standards promulgated under this Act.
29 USCS § 654(a).
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Jabba’sTrap
Door
Floors with holes that
“persons can
accidentally walk” into
(such as on a
construction site) must
be guarded by a railing
or cover.
W. C. Sivers Co. (1972) OSHRC Docket No. 239, 1973-1974 CCH OSHD P
17792, 29 CFR 1926.500(b)(8).
Sunday, July 12, 2015
The Palace Guard & Rancor
Property owners can be liable for injuries
under premises liability for a free
roaming wild animal on their property
provided they have knowledge of the
dangerous animal (like an alligator). The
Landings Ass’n, Inc. v. Williams, 736 S.E.
2d 140 (Ga. Ct. App. 2012).
Rancor was imported to Tatooine to be
used as an execution weapon in a pit.
Not free roaming, but purposely
contained because it was dangerous.
Highly foreseeable that the creature
could accidentally eat the wrong
person.
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Independent Contractor & the
Sarlacc Pit
Boba Fett: Bounty Hunter, thus Independent
Contractor
Jabba’s Barge: Similar to Oil Rig
Independent contractors are viewed as
business invitees. Taylor v. Nabors Drilling
United States, LP, 2013 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 14555,
at *5 (S.D. Miss. Feb. 4, 2013).
Jabba had a general duty to “provide an
independent contractor with a reasonably
safe work environment or give warning of
danger.” Taylor, at *5, citing Nofsinger v. Irby,
961 So. 2d 778, 781 (Miss. Ct. App. 2007).
Jabba as a premises owner was not, “an
insurer of the [independent contractor's]
safety.” Taylor, at *5, citing Coho Res., Inc. v.
McCarthy, 829 So. 2d 1, 10 (Miss. 2002).
“There are exceptions to the general rule,
which can be reduced to two issues: who
controls the work which caused the injury,
and whether the contractor had actual or
constructive knowledge of the hazard which
caused the injury.” Taylor, at *5, citing Coho
Res., Inc. v. McCarthy, 829 So. 2d 1, 10 (Miss.
2002).
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Every person who, with the intent to cause cruel or extreme pain and suffering for the purpose of revenge, extortion, persuasion, or
for any sadistic purpose, inflicts great bodily injury as defined in Section 12022.7 upon the person of another, is guilty of torture.
The crime of torture does not require any proof that the victim suffered pain.
Cal Pen Code § 206.
Can Droids BeTortured?
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Why Do Droids Have Feelings?
Is a Droid like an
“animal”
Can torturing a Droid
be prosecuted like
cruelty to animals?
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Was Han Right to Shoot First?
#HanWasRight
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Self-Defense
Self-defense requires that a
person, “where from the nature of
the attack, the assailed person
believes, on reasonable grounds,
that he is in imminent danger of
losing his life or of receiving great
bodily harm from his assailant, he
is not bound to retreat, but may
stand his ground, and, if necessary
for his own protection, may take
the life of his adversary.”
People v. Zuckerman, 56 Cal. App. 2d 366, 374 (Cal. App.1942).
Sunday, July 12, 2015
Over My Dead Body!
Sunday, July 12, 2015
The Law will beWithYou.
Always.
@IamPaulGrewal
@TheLegalGeeks
@bowtielaw @eDiscMatters
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  • 1. Judge Paul Grewal, Jessica Mederson, Esq., And Joshua Gilliland, Esq., Of The Legal Geeks Tatooine Law Legal Lessons from Star Wars Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 2. Agenda ✤ Judges Love Star Wars ✤ Secret Marriages ✤ Clone Rights ✤ Defense of Others ✤ Law’s Empire ✤ Hate Crimes ✤ Medical Malpractice ✤ Who Owns R2D2 & CP3O? ✤ Forcing Confessions ✤ Vader on Contracts ✤ Employee Safety in Jabba’s Palace ✤ Can You Torture a Droid? ✤ Han Shot First Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 3. StarWars Judicial Quotes Age of Judges: 40s to 60s A 46 year-old Judge was 9 years-old when Star Wars came out. “In fact, on August 1, 2012 your tweets will be sent across the universe to a galaxy far, far away.” People of the State of New York v. Malcolm Harris, Docket No. 2011NY080152 (N.Y. Crim. Ct. June 30, 2012). Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 4. Long Age, In A Courthouse, Far, Far, Away.... Judge Matthew Sciarrino’s Chambers Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 6. Jedi Judges This attempted diversion—the legal equivalent of Obi-Wan Kenobi’s “These aren’t the droids you’re looking for,” see Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope (Lucasfilm 1977)—is unavailing. “United States v. Stapleton, 2013 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 108189, 23-24 (E.D. Ky. July 31, 2013). In addressing an accounting issue and net proceeds, the Seventh Circuit explained, “Size matters not, Yoda tells us. Nor does time.”  U.S. v. Hodge, 558 F.3d 630, 632 (7th Cir. 2009). “Even Yoda, the diminutive Star Wars guru, recognized that sometimes in life we have to fish or cut bait. ‘Do or do not. There is no try.'”  Com. v. Marshall, 345 S.W.3d 822, 835 (Ky. 2011) (Cunningham, J., dissenting). Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 7. Did Anakin and Padme Have aValid Marriage? Are there secret marriages? Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 8. Are Clones “People”? Clones Created for War. However, had self- awareness, intelligence, and consciousness. Are Clones State Property? Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 9. What is a Clone? Therapeutic cloning is to be distinguished from reproductive cloning which seeks to reproduce entire organisms. “Dolly” the famous, or infamous, sheep created by the Roslin Institute in Scotland is an example of reproductive cloning. Advanced Cell Tech. v. Infigen, Inc., 2002 Mass. Super. LEXIS 377, 2-3 (Mass. Super. Ct. June 18, 2002) The Star Wars Clones are products of reproductive cloning. Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 10. Attack of the Clones’ Doctors The Clone Wars episodes “The Unknown,” “Conspiracy,” “Fugitive” and “Orders” centered on Clone Trooper Tup who suffered a breakdown from a defective chip Fives tried to get Tup proper medical treatment. Issues of treatment turn on whether the Republic or Kamino owned the Clones. Doctors proposed a medical exam to kill Tup to find the illness that caused Tup to kill a Jedi. Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 11. Obi-Wan Kenobi’s Defense of Luke Defense of Others Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 12. Empire of Law StarWars Rebels “All Trade Regulated Through the Empire” Fruit vendor charged with treason for not registering fruit Military Conducts Law Enforcement “Forced Labor” Camps Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 13. The Empire and Eminent Domain Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 14. Anakin Skywalker Killing Sand People After Mother’s Death Hate Crime? Insanity Defense? It is an affirmative defense to a prosecution under any Federal statute that, at the time of the commission of the acts constituting the offense, the defendant, as a result of a severe mental disease or defect, was unable to appreciate the nature and quality or the wrongfulness of his acts. Mental disease or defect does not otherwise constitute a defense. 18 USCS § 17(a) (a) "Hate crime" means a criminal act committed, in whole or in part, because of one or more of the following actual or perceived characteristics of the victim: (1) Disability. (2) Gender. (3) Nationality. (4) Race or ethnicity. (5) Religion. (6) Sexual orientation. (7) Association with a person or group with one or more of these actual or perceived characteristics. Cal Pen Code § 422.55 Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 17. Droid Ownership Who Owns R2D2 & C3PO? Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 18. Tracing Ownership R2D2: Queen Amidala’s state property on Naboo R2D2 continues in Amidala’s service as a Senator C3PO: Built by Anakin Skywalker (as a child, while owned as a slave) C3PO is left with Shmi Skywalker in slavery Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 19. CP3O as Separate Property C3PO was Shmi’s personal property at her death. Anakin probable owner, unless there was a will or prior transmutation of property to Cliegg Lars. Droids would remain separate property of each spouse, unless gifted to other spouse. Padme owned R2D2 until her death. Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 20. Alternate Theories Anakin’s battery of Padme caused her death, thus cutting off his rights to any of Padme’s personal property or community property. (See, Cal Prob Code § 250, which prohibits someone who kills a descendant from inheriting under interest succession or a will).  Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 21. A New Owner? Senator Leia Organa had possession, custody and control of the Droids. Leia exercised her property rights over R2D2 by sending him on the mission to find Obi Wan Kenobi. Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 22. Is an Escape Pod a Life Boat? A “derelict vessel” is one that is abandoned and deserted. This can be by accident, necessity or voluntary actions, without hope of recovery. PAUL W. REISS, ET AL. v. ONE SCHAT-HARDING LIFEBOAT NO. 120776 # 1, ET AL., 2006 AMC 1401 (D.S.C. 2006), citing Rowe v. the Brig, 1 Mason 372, 20 F.Cas. 1281, 1282, No. 12,093 (C.C.Mass. 1818). Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 23. Is Luke the Legal Owner? Valid sale to Owen? Droids inherited by Luke? Did Luke gift Droids to Jabba? Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 24. Forcing Confessions with Truth Serum No Forced Confessions “Revolting to the sense of justice.” Many Courts will not allow any truth serum results or expert testimony over truth serum results from expert witnesses, until it is proven with “verifiable certainty that truth serum compels a person to tell the truth.” Harper v. State, 249 Ga. 519, 526 (Ga. 1982). Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 25. Vader on Contracts Contract Modification and Duress Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 26. Employee Safety in Jabba’s Palace An employer: (1) shall furnish to each of his employees employment and a place of employment which are free from recognized hazards that are causing or are likely to cause death or serious physical harm to his employees; (2) shall comply with occupational safety and health standards promulgated under this Act. 29 USCS § 654(a). Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 27. Jabba’sTrap Door Floors with holes that “persons can accidentally walk” into (such as on a construction site) must be guarded by a railing or cover. W. C. Sivers Co. (1972) OSHRC Docket No. 239, 1973-1974 CCH OSHD P 17792, 29 CFR 1926.500(b)(8). Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 28. The Palace Guard & Rancor Property owners can be liable for injuries under premises liability for a free roaming wild animal on their property provided they have knowledge of the dangerous animal (like an alligator). The Landings Ass’n, Inc. v. Williams, 736 S.E. 2d 140 (Ga. Ct. App. 2012). Rancor was imported to Tatooine to be used as an execution weapon in a pit. Not free roaming, but purposely contained because it was dangerous. Highly foreseeable that the creature could accidentally eat the wrong person. Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 29. Independent Contractor & the Sarlacc Pit Boba Fett: Bounty Hunter, thus Independent Contractor Jabba’s Barge: Similar to Oil Rig Independent contractors are viewed as business invitees. Taylor v. Nabors Drilling United States, LP, 2013 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 14555, at *5 (S.D. Miss. Feb. 4, 2013). Jabba had a general duty to “provide an independent contractor with a reasonably safe work environment or give warning of danger.” Taylor, at *5, citing Nofsinger v. Irby, 961 So. 2d 778, 781 (Miss. Ct. App. 2007). Jabba as a premises owner was not, “an insurer of the [independent contractor's] safety.” Taylor, at *5, citing Coho Res., Inc. v. McCarthy, 829 So. 2d 1, 10 (Miss. 2002). “There are exceptions to the general rule, which can be reduced to two issues: who controls the work which caused the injury, and whether the contractor had actual or constructive knowledge of the hazard which caused the injury.” Taylor, at *5, citing Coho Res., Inc. v. McCarthy, 829 So. 2d 1, 10 (Miss. 2002). Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 30. Every person who, with the intent to cause cruel or extreme pain and suffering for the purpose of revenge, extortion, persuasion, or for any sadistic purpose, inflicts great bodily injury as defined in Section 12022.7 upon the person of another, is guilty of torture. The crime of torture does not require any proof that the victim suffered pain. Cal Pen Code § 206. Can Droids BeTortured? Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 31. Why Do Droids Have Feelings? Is a Droid like an “animal” Can torturing a Droid be prosecuted like cruelty to animals? Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 32. Was Han Right to Shoot First? #HanWasRight Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 33. Self-Defense Self-defense requires that a person, “where from the nature of the attack, the assailed person believes, on reasonable grounds, that he is in imminent danger of losing his life or of receiving great bodily harm from his assailant, he is not bound to retreat, but may stand his ground, and, if necessary for his own protection, may take the life of his adversary.” People v. Zuckerman, 56 Cal. App. 2d 366, 374 (Cal. App.1942). Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 34. Over My Dead Body! Sunday, July 12, 2015
  • 35. The Law will beWithYou. Always. @IamPaulGrewal @TheLegalGeeks @bowtielaw @eDiscMatters www.thelegalgeeks.com Sunday, July 12, 2015