Influences des langues indo-européennes sur le Japonais moderne et le Vietnamien ancien.

Langues & intercompréhension dans la Zone CKJV 1 Jean LW Lequeux http://weltram.eu/twostudies.aspx 1 Chine – Corée – Japon - Vietnam

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Introduction ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Quelques données ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Sur le plan linguistique ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

“ CJKv United Ideographs” ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

En pratique… ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Qu’est ce que cela donne? ,[object Object],[object Object],魚鱼 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Japonais et Chinois traditionnel Chinois simplifié

… pour l’intercompréhension ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

« L’écriture objet » Un potentiel technologique pour l’intercompréhension

Qu’est-ce d’écriture objet ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Deux études ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Les points … ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Le Katakana : un codex « de facto » Voir sur le site : http://weltram.eu/twostudies.aspx

Le Japon en trois lignes ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Le Japonais en 3 lignes ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Le contraire du Chinois

Écriture et langue japonaise ,[object Object],魚 Sakana (poisson vivant) さしみ Sashimi, cru dans l’assiette Kanji Hiragana 刺身 Kanji フーライデュフシュ Furaidu fishu … chez マクドナルド ( Makudonarudo)  Romaji Katakana KANJI Un signe un concept Deux prononciations Sert de mot et de radical

Les syllabaires ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Le Katakana aujourd’hui ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Mais nul n’est parfait… ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Des couches historiques ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],ワトシャツ gasorin sutando Tra ガソリンスタンド gasoline stand

Des bribes non-anglo… ,[object Object],ari Com アリ ant kurepu Foo クレープ pancake pankeiki Foo パンケーキ pancake

Un phénomène connu ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],se passe sur 30 ans (page suivante)

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Ken & Tony parlent japonais ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Exercice Ken est-il Japonais, Américain ou Japonais branché? Indice: 健司 Reconnaissez-vous les Kanji? Les Hiragana? Les Katakana? Les Romaji?

Les radicaux SKIE du Vietnamiens ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Le Vietnam en 3 lignes ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Le Vietnamien en 3 lignes ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Linguistique du Vietnamien ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Nord-Sud ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Pourtant… ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

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Les grands classiques… ,[object Object],[object Object],= [ba] :IN [abba] :HE [pa]:SK [pater]:LT, = father (Many languages use the same word for father or daddy… Another word is used: [cha]:VN) ba = [mamma] :LT, [ma]:SK, [mater]:LT, [mum]:EN,[ima, אמא ] :HE, [ma] :IN (Many languages use analogue words for “mum”.) má = [mère] :FR, [mother] :EN (The word “mẹ” is formal while “ má ” is used in family.) mẹ ||=>[baby] :EN = baby brother or sister (The word ‘’bé’’, traditionally used in Vietnam, is not at all an import from the French [bèbè]) bé |em| bé

… en visibilité directe ,[object Object],[object Object],Né: non par esquive… Nay (très paysan du sud): Non = [ja] :GE (The traditional “d ạ ” – pronounce “ya” – is a mark of high politeness. It was used to answer to the emperor; by the way, it was forbidden to say “no” to him…) d ạ {ya} ||=> [raus] :GE, =[out] :EN = [to go out]:EN = [to run out] In Vietnamese “ra” follows the verb, exactly like “out” in English) ra đi |ra| chạy |ra|

Guerre et paix ,[object Object],= [girl] :EN (|cô| is a link word, which also means “young lady”. “Cô” also stands for “Miss”. Of course, the “|cô| gái” were parts of the Vietnamese society long before the GI’s came in the 60’s… and long time before the French soldiers fought in the colonial days!). |cô| gái (The radical “ gái ” is used to indicate the feminine. The masculine is “nam”; easy mnemonic: <man>:EN)

Exemples enfouis… ,[object Object],[object Object],||=> [scire] :LT, <sci(ence)>:EN = [doctor]:EN (“bác” = medicine) =[singer]:EN (“ca” = song) (This is a most important radical used to mark the knowledge – science – of a professional. It applies to different experts.) sĩ {shi} |bác| sĩ |ca| sĩ ||=> church, = temple (The word “ chùa ” is used only for… Buddhist temples, while a Christian church is “nhà thờ ” – “house of worship”!) chùa

Peter Pan & Captain Crook ,[object Object],泛 ||=>[pan] :EN, =[ 泛 , Fàn] :Chinese (The well-known Vietnamese noodle soup with beef has some similarities with the French “pot-au-feu” both for its ingredients and the way the word is pronounced. However, it actually derives from the Chinese “fàn”, the big deep pan where it is traditionally cooked… and it had the same name long before the French arrived in Indochina!) phở {p’fhur} (French speakers think that the word, pronounced like “feu” – “fire” in French—derived from the “feu” of “pot of feu”; Alas, it is not the right root! “Phở” has no connection with the French colonial episode of the Vietnamese history. Coincidentally, it is closer to “pot”: read explanation on the right cell.)

Décodage des pronominaux ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Inversion

Bizarreries? ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],= [ciao] :IT = [shalom] :HE (The word is used both for ‘’hello’’ and ‘’good bye’’) chào {tiao} (One of the words any traveller hear all day.)

Lexiques des néologismes ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Réciprocité: Japon! ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],数大独物寿柔司道経減営量   かんばんカイゼン台風津波 Conclusions

Aucune analogie avec la situation sociale japonaise très respectueuse de la personne ,[object Object],[object Object],© Tout droit réservé: CFE-CGC

Réciprocité: Vietnam! ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Conséquences ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Vietnam/Japon ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Projections sur l’avenir ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

Merci pour votre attention http://weltram.eu ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],ワニ wani

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