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Expectation and Experience: A
    view from the students
             Caroline Dangerfield
President, University of Salford Students’ Union
HE Zone Committee, National Union of Students
Great Expectations?

 •An assumption students will become more like
 customers

 •Logical step is we treat them this way

 •Whose expectations?

 •Does the expectation change from pre-application
 to the end of the course?
Is a student ever truly a customer?

 • A fully informed applicant with money in
   their pocket that can easily take
   elsewhere if dissatisfied?
 • 76% students rely on student loan to
   cover fees
 • 68% to cover living costs
 • 41% maintenance grant
 • Transferring elsewhere not easy
Informed expectations
•49% of school leavers expected to be required to submit written work at
least once a week.

•Less likely to expect to use student loan to cover tuition fees

•KIS will enable students to become better informed about their choices.
Not to become more like customers but so they are able to make the best
decisions.

•However, by providing what are very specific types of information, we are
already setting students’ expectations.

•Students aren’t a homogenous group of people and their expectations
aren’t the same.
Expectation versus Want

•What we expect is not always a well informed expectation

•What we want not necessarily what we need.

•Comparison of American and British system – vast amounts
of money spent in the US on shallow student experience

•Shiny but not satisfying.

•An increase in tuition fees and rising expectations should
not necessarily equal new, shiny buildings.
Experience

 • NUS worked with QAA on biggest ever
   Student Experience research

 • Research used multi method approach.
    – National Online Survey
    – Focus Groups
    – Online discussion groups

    – 5,000 respondents to the online survey
    – 135 student participants in focus groups
Quality of Learning and Teaching

 • 90.6% of students said lecturers/tutors
   teaching skills were important or very
   important.
 • The next most important were interactive
   groups teaching sessions (83.4%) and
   library support (78.3%)
 • Least important – internet discussion
   forums (48%) and lecturers research
   record (47.7%)
Interactive group sessions

 “The seminars are great for tying up loose
   ends and preparing you for further
   lectures as well…I’ve found that seminars
   are great for getting to know people on
   your course. You get to talk to people
   that you wouldn’t necessarily meet”

 Male, Russell Group, 1st Year
What makes a good tutor?

   – Specialist in their subject
   – Experience of subject in working world
   – Approachable
   – Accessible
   – Passionate
   – Organised
   – Using interactivity, technology, visual aids
   – Sense of humour
Real relationship

 “We have a lecturer…it’s like she’s not there
  to make a living, she’s there because she
  has a passion about us. It’s a fantastic
  relationship and I don’t think there is
  anyone in the tutor group who dislikes
  her. She comes to our level and she gets
  us. It is a real respectful relationship,
  both ways.”
 Male, Guild HE, 3rd Year
Who contributes to a good experience?
Assessment and Feedback

 • Majority of student receive
   assessment/feedback via marks (86.1%)
   and written comments (77.9%)
 • Difference in what students want and
   what they receive 66.1% students want
   verbal feedback in an individual meeting
   with tutor and 42.3% receive it.
Enhancing learning and teaching

 • More evidence of student demand for
   interactive learning
 • To improve quality of experience 50.2%
   wanted more interactive group sessions.
 • 43.3% more individual teaching sessions
 • 41.9% more contact time with personal
   tutor
 • 8.4% lecturers with better academic
   qualifications
Enhancement

 • Link between smaller groups/seminars not
   just with staff time but more time with
   classmates.
 • “I think a bit more group work would be
   better. It would be good to hear other
   people’s point of view. Basically it can bring
   people closer and help with friendships.
   More group work should be introduced.”
 Male, Russell Group, 1st Year
The ‘perfect’ course plan
Student Engagement
Importance of true engagement

 • Student involvement defined in terms of
   the various means of feedback.
 • 58.2% students believe feedback they
   provide is acted upon
 • 31.9% don’t know whether or not the
   feedback they provide will be acted on.
Lack of empowerment

 “Is it to do with the influence that we have
    and the teaching style for example? We do
    have the student reps and they can give
    feedback…but it seems to me that it’s
    almost like they have to have it. It doesn’t
    seem to make much difference. I think it’s
    just ticking boxes. I don’t think anything
    actually changes throughout the year.”
 Male, Guild HE, 3rd Year
Problem with timing

 “I don’t think we’re involved with it. We’ve
    experienced that if we make a complaint
    nothing changes. It’s more of a procedure
    than anything else….The worst thing that
    we heard was that whatever you tell us
    will help us design the course for next
    year. It was not going to change things
    this year.”
 Male, Russell Group, Masters
Importance of feeding back

 “Yeah we get feedback from the feedback.
   If they can’t do something because of
   something we weren’t aware of then
   they have at least taken it on board. It’s
   like they have tried at least to do
   something.”
 Male, Russell Group, 1st Year
Involvement in course design

 • Still disconnect between how involved
   students feel they are in shaping their
   course content, curriculum or design and
   how involved they want to.
 • Preferred option – providing feedback on
   course design, being a course
   representative and being involved in
   setting assessment criteria.
Students do accept responsibility
Partnership approach

 • Partners do not just up and leave when
   something goes wrong.
 • Partners have a stake and a will to
   continually make things better.
 • Core purposes of University is to learn
   how to critically evaluate and engage
   constructively.
True engagement

 • NUS/HEA Student Engagement Toolkit
 • Moving from consultation to
   involvement, participation and finally to
   partnership should be the aim of both
   students and institutions.
 • Students engaged in consultation can be
   ‘tokenistic’
 • Students as partners enables students to
   feel greater ownership of the curriculum.
Conclusions

 • Should not passively accept that because of fees, this
   is the way things are going to be.
 • Students will expect more and demand more.
 • Appropriate information, advice and guidance pre-
   application will allow students to make informed
   choice.
 • Induction period which lasts longer than 2 weeks will
   ease transition period and manage expectations to
   be more realistic and encourage engagement early
 • Working with students as partners of learning leads
   to something greater than a customer approach and
   a UK HE sector we will all continue to be proud of.

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Caroline Dangerfield - Expectation and Experience: A view from the students

  • 1. Expectation and Experience: A view from the students Caroline Dangerfield President, University of Salford Students’ Union HE Zone Committee, National Union of Students
  • 2. Great Expectations? •An assumption students will become more like customers •Logical step is we treat them this way •Whose expectations? •Does the expectation change from pre-application to the end of the course?
  • 3. Is a student ever truly a customer? • A fully informed applicant with money in their pocket that can easily take elsewhere if dissatisfied? • 76% students rely on student loan to cover fees • 68% to cover living costs • 41% maintenance grant • Transferring elsewhere not easy
  • 4. Informed expectations •49% of school leavers expected to be required to submit written work at least once a week. •Less likely to expect to use student loan to cover tuition fees •KIS will enable students to become better informed about their choices. Not to become more like customers but so they are able to make the best decisions. •However, by providing what are very specific types of information, we are already setting students’ expectations. •Students aren’t a homogenous group of people and their expectations aren’t the same.
  • 5. Expectation versus Want •What we expect is not always a well informed expectation •What we want not necessarily what we need. •Comparison of American and British system – vast amounts of money spent in the US on shallow student experience •Shiny but not satisfying. •An increase in tuition fees and rising expectations should not necessarily equal new, shiny buildings.
  • 6. Experience • NUS worked with QAA on biggest ever Student Experience research • Research used multi method approach. – National Online Survey – Focus Groups – Online discussion groups – 5,000 respondents to the online survey – 135 student participants in focus groups
  • 7. Quality of Learning and Teaching • 90.6% of students said lecturers/tutors teaching skills were important or very important. • The next most important were interactive groups teaching sessions (83.4%) and library support (78.3%) • Least important – internet discussion forums (48%) and lecturers research record (47.7%)
  • 8. Interactive group sessions “The seminars are great for tying up loose ends and preparing you for further lectures as well…I’ve found that seminars are great for getting to know people on your course. You get to talk to people that you wouldn’t necessarily meet” Male, Russell Group, 1st Year
  • 9. What makes a good tutor? – Specialist in their subject – Experience of subject in working world – Approachable – Accessible – Passionate – Organised – Using interactivity, technology, visual aids – Sense of humour
  • 10. Real relationship “We have a lecturer…it’s like she’s not there to make a living, she’s there because she has a passion about us. It’s a fantastic relationship and I don’t think there is anyone in the tutor group who dislikes her. She comes to our level and she gets us. It is a real respectful relationship, both ways.” Male, Guild HE, 3rd Year
  • 11. Who contributes to a good experience?
  • 12. Assessment and Feedback • Majority of student receive assessment/feedback via marks (86.1%) and written comments (77.9%) • Difference in what students want and what they receive 66.1% students want verbal feedback in an individual meeting with tutor and 42.3% receive it.
  • 13. Enhancing learning and teaching • More evidence of student demand for interactive learning • To improve quality of experience 50.2% wanted more interactive group sessions. • 43.3% more individual teaching sessions • 41.9% more contact time with personal tutor • 8.4% lecturers with better academic qualifications
  • 14. Enhancement • Link between smaller groups/seminars not just with staff time but more time with classmates. • “I think a bit more group work would be better. It would be good to hear other people’s point of view. Basically it can bring people closer and help with friendships. More group work should be introduced.” Male, Russell Group, 1st Year
  • 17. Importance of true engagement • Student involvement defined in terms of the various means of feedback. • 58.2% students believe feedback they provide is acted upon • 31.9% don’t know whether or not the feedback they provide will be acted on.
  • 18. Lack of empowerment “Is it to do with the influence that we have and the teaching style for example? We do have the student reps and they can give feedback…but it seems to me that it’s almost like they have to have it. It doesn’t seem to make much difference. I think it’s just ticking boxes. I don’t think anything actually changes throughout the year.” Male, Guild HE, 3rd Year
  • 19. Problem with timing “I don’t think we’re involved with it. We’ve experienced that if we make a complaint nothing changes. It’s more of a procedure than anything else….The worst thing that we heard was that whatever you tell us will help us design the course for next year. It was not going to change things this year.” Male, Russell Group, Masters
  • 20. Importance of feeding back “Yeah we get feedback from the feedback. If they can’t do something because of something we weren’t aware of then they have at least taken it on board. It’s like they have tried at least to do something.” Male, Russell Group, 1st Year
  • 21. Involvement in course design • Still disconnect between how involved students feel they are in shaping their course content, curriculum or design and how involved they want to. • Preferred option – providing feedback on course design, being a course representative and being involved in setting assessment criteria.
  • 22. Students do accept responsibility
  • 23. Partnership approach • Partners do not just up and leave when something goes wrong. • Partners have a stake and a will to continually make things better. • Core purposes of University is to learn how to critically evaluate and engage constructively.
  • 24. True engagement • NUS/HEA Student Engagement Toolkit • Moving from consultation to involvement, participation and finally to partnership should be the aim of both students and institutions. • Students engaged in consultation can be ‘tokenistic’ • Students as partners enables students to feel greater ownership of the curriculum.
  • 25. Conclusions • Should not passively accept that because of fees, this is the way things are going to be. • Students will expect more and demand more. • Appropriate information, advice and guidance pre- application will allow students to make informed choice. • Induction period which lasts longer than 2 weeks will ease transition period and manage expectations to be more realistic and encourage engagement early • Working with students as partners of learning leads to something greater than a customer approach and a UK HE sector we will all continue to be proud of.