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Challenge
Faced with a shortage of female IT graduates, and a
lack of women at all levels of the company, MYOB
wanted to find an alternative recruitment process.
Strategy
“We found women are not looking for opportunities in
IT straight after high school,” says Tanya Windscheffel,
MYOB Platform Development Manager. “The problem
is that women have no idea what IT is really like – the
industry is seen as uncreative and the perception of
IT is nerdy men in suits in cubicles, with lots of pens in
their top pockets.”
To address this issue, MYOB devised an
experimental program to see if it was possible to
teach people with no previous IT experience basic
coding in 16 weeks.
The company created DevelopHer, a ‘returnship’
program where, instead of taking on ‘interns’ straight
out school or uni, they looked for women who
may have been out of the workforce for a while or
wanted a mid-career change, to be trained in coding.
“We’d love this type of program
to expand across the industry –
it was always intended to be an
industry-wide project not just
confined to MYOB.”
Case study: Recruiting women into IT
1,100
employees
64%
male
36%
female
MYOB Computer System Design
and Related Services
Actions
The MYOB coding course was devised from
scratch. “The closest thing in the marketplace
to our course is the General Assembly software
delivery course – but it can be too hard for women
to access, as it’s full-time and costs thousands of
dollars,” explains Tanya.
The MYOB course was made accessible by running
it three days a week to take into account caring
and other work responsibilities. “We know flexibility
is very important for women – they tend to start
off in IT then drop out when they can’t balance
working and home.”
Recruitment
The MYOB team thought it would be difficult to
get applicants – but when the project was posted
on social media – Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn –
it received 100 applications. Instead of an interview
process, the team asked applicants to make a video
about themselves.
“We wanted to understand the way they thought,
see their problem-solving skills, find out why they
wanted to do coding, and why particularly at this
time of their life, and why it was important to
them,” says Tanya.
Thirty people were shortlisted and invited to MYOB
for a one-day session with team-building exercises to
see how they interacted with the group, a 30-minute
one-on-one chat, and some time shadowing people
from the four main development (dev) teams.
Training
Three women were picked for the 16-week paid,
part-time program which started with classroom-
style basic coding for eight weeks. The rest was spent
working one-on-one with a ‘dev’ team member.
“We chose recent software graduates to teach
the recruits coding because it was a relatively
short time since they were in the classroom
environment,” says Tanya. “But one of the lessons
we learnt was that we under-estimated how hard
it is to teach other people. We found that we
had to teach the graduates to teach – including
understanding and empathy of the learning process
and managing expectations about how long the
recruits would have to stay at a basic level. It
takes 12 months to two years to have a solid
understanding of the life cycle of IT.”
Outcomes
The recruits were not guaranteed a position at the
end of the course, but all three participants achieved
a level of competence and were offered jobs, with
two working part-time and one full-time.
MYOB now has a list of 300 women, including
internal applicants, who have expressed interest in
the program and are hoping the next intake in 2017
can take more people.
“We want to take it slowly because we want to be
able to fully support the participants. We’d love this
type of program to expand across the industry – it
was always intended to be an industry-wide project
not just confined to MYOB,” says Tanya.
MYOB Recruiting women into IT
“MYOB is completely
different to the
stereotypes that you
see in pop culture on
TV. It’s a happy working
environment and you
don’t have to be technical
– it’s about problem
solving – it’s not about
the stereotypical maths
and physics.”
Employee experience
Based in Melbourne, Hannah Deutscher, jumped
at the chance to make a career change and dive
into IT.
“After finishing a degree in Art History and French,
I had a good position as a retail manager but I felt that
I wanted to do something else. When my sister and I
started selling tea online we had to build a website. It
was fun and I began to get interested in IT and then I
found out about the MYOB program and managed to
get a place in the team.
Because the course was part-time I didn’t have to
give up my job – I was able to work full-time on
weekends and do three days at MYOB – which was
perfect because there was no guarantee that I would
be good enough to get a job at the end.
In the beginning the coding was a bit familiar but
very quickly it became a very steep learning curve
– you have to pick things up quickly and remember
everything you’ve learnt over several hours. When we
left the classroom and joined a ‘dev team’ everything
suddenly had context – it was really interesting going
beyond just coding and beginning to understand how
the coding fitted into the other areas of the business.
I now work in the core services team with eight to
12 people, and our customers are in other areas
of the business. I am still ‘shadowing’ in the team
but working with real products – working on small
tasks at my level which are then checked by a senior
developer.
I was so surprised about what the job involved. I had
no idea how interesting and how collaborative the
environment is. If I’d known how IT really was I would
have done this 10 years ago! I think there is a lack
of transparency about the industry – when I was at
school leaving year 12 no-one came and talked about
IT, so I never considered it.
MYOB is completely different to the stereotypes that
you see in pop culture on TV. It’s a happy working
environment and you don’t have to be technical – it’s
about problem solving, it’s not about the stereotypical
maths and physics (I hate maths, I’m hopeless at it).
Ultimately coding is like learning a language. It’s about
being able to embrace change and enjoy learning and
working with new technology. These are the qualities
you need to be successful.”
Julia Harper
After starting her career in counselling, Julia managed
the operations and financial side of her family IT
consulting business until she had her son in 2010. Her
husband had joined MYOB and sent her a link to the
coding program. He was one of several employees
who encouraged their wives to apply which, she says,
spoke volumes about how great the organisation is to
work for and also how supportive the males at MYOB
are of gender diversity initiatives.
Ludmila Stakhovych
Graduating with a master’s degree in economics and
finance, Ludmila started her career as a financial risk
analyst. After maternity leave and immigrating to
Australia she found out about MYOB’s DevelopHER
program through social media.
Level 7, 309 Kent Street
Sydney NSW 2000
T 02 9432 7000 E wgea@wgea.gov.au www.wgea.gov.au
The other returnship
team members
Drill down into our data at data.wgea.gov.au
to compare how industries are performing on
gender equality.
Visit www.wgea.gov.au to learn about employer
best practice and download practical tools to
improve gender equality in your workplace.
•	 Gender pay gap analysis at all levels of the
company is currently underway.
•	 The board and executive have completed
unconscious bias training and it is being rolled
out to all managers. Once this is complete,
the company will review the next steps for
diversity and inclusion training.
MYOB’s Diversity Policy includes requirements
for the board to set measurable objectives
for achieving gender diversity and an annual
assessment of objectives and MYOB’s progress
in achieving them.
The 2018 objectives include:
•	 increasing the number of women in senior
management from 33% in 2016 to 40%
•	 increasing the number of female board
directors from 17% to 30%
•	 increasing the proportion of women
participating in the MYOB Leadership
Program from 33% to more than 45%
•	 maintaining a high return-to-work rate
and increasing the rate from 83% to more
than 85%.
MYOB gender diversity programs
“If I’d known how IT really
was I would have done this
10 years ago! I think there
is a lack of transparency
about the industry –
when I was at school
leaving year 12 no-one
came and talked about IT,
so I never considered it.”
Hannah Deutcher

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Case study: Recruiting women into IT - MYOB

  • 1. Challenge Faced with a shortage of female IT graduates, and a lack of women at all levels of the company, MYOB wanted to find an alternative recruitment process. Strategy “We found women are not looking for opportunities in IT straight after high school,” says Tanya Windscheffel, MYOB Platform Development Manager. “The problem is that women have no idea what IT is really like – the industry is seen as uncreative and the perception of IT is nerdy men in suits in cubicles, with lots of pens in their top pockets.” To address this issue, MYOB devised an experimental program to see if it was possible to teach people with no previous IT experience basic coding in 16 weeks. The company created DevelopHer, a ‘returnship’ program where, instead of taking on ‘interns’ straight out school or uni, they looked for women who may have been out of the workforce for a while or wanted a mid-career change, to be trained in coding. “We’d love this type of program to expand across the industry – it was always intended to be an industry-wide project not just confined to MYOB.” Case study: Recruiting women into IT 1,100 employees 64% male 36% female MYOB Computer System Design and Related Services
  • 2. Actions The MYOB coding course was devised from scratch. “The closest thing in the marketplace to our course is the General Assembly software delivery course – but it can be too hard for women to access, as it’s full-time and costs thousands of dollars,” explains Tanya. The MYOB course was made accessible by running it three days a week to take into account caring and other work responsibilities. “We know flexibility is very important for women – they tend to start off in IT then drop out when they can’t balance working and home.” Recruitment The MYOB team thought it would be difficult to get applicants – but when the project was posted on social media – Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn – it received 100 applications. Instead of an interview process, the team asked applicants to make a video about themselves. “We wanted to understand the way they thought, see their problem-solving skills, find out why they wanted to do coding, and why particularly at this time of their life, and why it was important to them,” says Tanya. Thirty people were shortlisted and invited to MYOB for a one-day session with team-building exercises to see how they interacted with the group, a 30-minute one-on-one chat, and some time shadowing people from the four main development (dev) teams. Training Three women were picked for the 16-week paid, part-time program which started with classroom- style basic coding for eight weeks. The rest was spent working one-on-one with a ‘dev’ team member. “We chose recent software graduates to teach the recruits coding because it was a relatively short time since they were in the classroom environment,” says Tanya. “But one of the lessons we learnt was that we under-estimated how hard it is to teach other people. We found that we had to teach the graduates to teach – including understanding and empathy of the learning process and managing expectations about how long the recruits would have to stay at a basic level. It takes 12 months to two years to have a solid understanding of the life cycle of IT.” Outcomes The recruits were not guaranteed a position at the end of the course, but all three participants achieved a level of competence and were offered jobs, with two working part-time and one full-time. MYOB now has a list of 300 women, including internal applicants, who have expressed interest in the program and are hoping the next intake in 2017 can take more people. “We want to take it slowly because we want to be able to fully support the participants. We’d love this type of program to expand across the industry – it was always intended to be an industry-wide project not just confined to MYOB,” says Tanya. MYOB Recruiting women into IT “MYOB is completely different to the stereotypes that you see in pop culture on TV. It’s a happy working environment and you don’t have to be technical – it’s about problem solving – it’s not about the stereotypical maths and physics.”
  • 3. Employee experience Based in Melbourne, Hannah Deutscher, jumped at the chance to make a career change and dive into IT. “After finishing a degree in Art History and French, I had a good position as a retail manager but I felt that I wanted to do something else. When my sister and I started selling tea online we had to build a website. It was fun and I began to get interested in IT and then I found out about the MYOB program and managed to get a place in the team. Because the course was part-time I didn’t have to give up my job – I was able to work full-time on weekends and do three days at MYOB – which was perfect because there was no guarantee that I would be good enough to get a job at the end. In the beginning the coding was a bit familiar but very quickly it became a very steep learning curve – you have to pick things up quickly and remember everything you’ve learnt over several hours. When we left the classroom and joined a ‘dev team’ everything suddenly had context – it was really interesting going beyond just coding and beginning to understand how the coding fitted into the other areas of the business. I now work in the core services team with eight to 12 people, and our customers are in other areas of the business. I am still ‘shadowing’ in the team but working with real products – working on small tasks at my level which are then checked by a senior developer. I was so surprised about what the job involved. I had no idea how interesting and how collaborative the environment is. If I’d known how IT really was I would have done this 10 years ago! I think there is a lack of transparency about the industry – when I was at school leaving year 12 no-one came and talked about IT, so I never considered it. MYOB is completely different to the stereotypes that you see in pop culture on TV. It’s a happy working environment and you don’t have to be technical – it’s about problem solving, it’s not about the stereotypical maths and physics (I hate maths, I’m hopeless at it). Ultimately coding is like learning a language. It’s about being able to embrace change and enjoy learning and working with new technology. These are the qualities you need to be successful.”
  • 4. Julia Harper After starting her career in counselling, Julia managed the operations and financial side of her family IT consulting business until she had her son in 2010. Her husband had joined MYOB and sent her a link to the coding program. He was one of several employees who encouraged their wives to apply which, she says, spoke volumes about how great the organisation is to work for and also how supportive the males at MYOB are of gender diversity initiatives. Ludmila Stakhovych Graduating with a master’s degree in economics and finance, Ludmila started her career as a financial risk analyst. After maternity leave and immigrating to Australia she found out about MYOB’s DevelopHER program through social media. Level 7, 309 Kent Street Sydney NSW 2000 T 02 9432 7000 E wgea@wgea.gov.au www.wgea.gov.au The other returnship team members Drill down into our data at data.wgea.gov.au to compare how industries are performing on gender equality. Visit www.wgea.gov.au to learn about employer best practice and download practical tools to improve gender equality in your workplace. • Gender pay gap analysis at all levels of the company is currently underway. • The board and executive have completed unconscious bias training and it is being rolled out to all managers. Once this is complete, the company will review the next steps for diversity and inclusion training. MYOB’s Diversity Policy includes requirements for the board to set measurable objectives for achieving gender diversity and an annual assessment of objectives and MYOB’s progress in achieving them. The 2018 objectives include: • increasing the number of women in senior management from 33% in 2016 to 40% • increasing the number of female board directors from 17% to 30% • increasing the proportion of women participating in the MYOB Leadership Program from 33% to more than 45% • maintaining a high return-to-work rate and increasing the rate from 83% to more than 85%. MYOB gender diversity programs “If I’d known how IT really was I would have done this 10 years ago! I think there is a lack of transparency about the industry – when I was at school leaving year 12 no-one came and talked about IT, so I never considered it.” Hannah Deutcher