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Cyber risks,
a view from the industry
Philippe COTELLE
Head of Insurance Risk Management
BRUSSELS, 20-21 October
www.ferma.eu
FORUM 2015
Venice, Italy 4-7 October
A new industrial revolution
2
Where the aeronautic industry had been so a century ago…
… this is how we see this in the coming
decade :
BRUSSELS, 20-21 October
www.ferma.eu
FORUM 2015
Venice, Italy 4-7 October
Cyber risks exposure
Internet : a tool allowing the sharing of
information between people in order to create an
open world
Difficulties to protect companies
and their datas from the outside.
4
BRUSSELS, 20-21 October
www.ferma.eu
FORUM 2015
Venice, Italy 4-7 October
Reputation
What are the obstacles to a good
assessment of our cyber risks ?
5
Wrong perception
Confidentiality
BRUSSELS, 20-21 October
www.ferma.eu
FORUM 2015
Venice, Italy 4-7 October
SPICE initiative
(Scenario Planning to Identify Cyber Exposure)
6
A pilot program for Business impact analysis on
disaster scenarios affecting our operational
capabilities related to a cyber-event
Gathering representatives of all the functions as well
as IT and IM Security to overcome 3 hurdles :
• Explain to the operational people that we need
them
• Address the security issue with extreme care,
• Be prepared to openly discuss some potential
scenarios of exposure and do not assume that it
is impossible to hack a company like us
BRUSSELS, 20-21 October
www.ferma.eu
FORUM 2015
Venice, Italy 4-7 October
Scenarios identification
7
Scenario identification
• Focus on disaster scenarios
• clear hypothesis
BRUSSELS, 20-21 October
www.ferma.eu
FORUM 2015
Venice, Italy 4-7 October
Assessing financial costs
8
Assessing financial cost of each scenario
• Split scenarios in 4 different phases
• Simplify the list of impacted functions
• Compute over/under charge per scenario, per phase
10
46
88
22
Phase A
Phase B
Phase C
Phase D
10 46 88 22
…
Financial costs
Scenario x
Security Breach Crisis
Remediation
Investments
Vigilance
Security Breach
Detection
BRUSSELS, 20-21 October
www.ferma.eu
FORUM 2015
Venice, Italy 4-7 October
Assessing financial costs
Lessons learned
9
 NUMBERS are related to our financial exposure
 There is no final number
 The objective is to reach a consensus:
 acceptable by everyone
 valid for our analysis
BRUSSELS, 20-21 October
www.ferma.eu
FORUM 2015
Venice, Italy 4-7 October
Evaluate probability of occurence
10
Quantify the technical probability of success of
a scenario to occur
• For each step of a given scenario, identify
technical ways to proceed
• Rate each step with a probability of occurrence
(using internal probability scale)
Assessment performed by the local Information
Management Security
APT Kill Chain
description used in the
technical threat scenario
BRUSSELS, 20-21 October
www.ferma.eu
FORUM 2015
Venice, Italy 4-7 October
Evaluate probability of occurrence
Lessons learned
11
Same method but different numbers !?
2 different approaches:
• Need an homogeneous approach
• Associate to each scenario the type of hacker and their motives
If an attacker was effectively
considering seriously to hack
Airbus, then this must be a very
strong organisation which in itself
should have gathered all those
unique skills and resources.
Therefore their probabilities were
more important.
Given the defence systems in
place, in order to be successful
the attacker should gather so
many different skills and
resources that this was very
unlikely to be plausible.
As such the probabilities were
therefore very low.
BRUSSELS, 20-21 October
www.ferma.eu
FORUM 2015
Venice, Italy 4-7 October
Next Steps
Provide a rationale for mitigation strategy
12
Insurance
Premium
cost is
efficient
Cost of
implementing IT
security
% of
Mitigation
IT Investment make sense to mitigate
the exposure
Justify the interest of the transfer to
insurance both for coverage and
premium budget
• IT investment to reduce the
probability of occurrence, until
the point of time when costs
are too high.
• At that point of time insurance
becomes complementary
(and not competitive) to IT
measures and is efficient from
a cost point of view
Risk identification Risk Assessment Risk Response
BRUSSELS, 20-21 October
www.ferma.eu
FORUM 2015
Venice, Italy 4-7 October
Challenges
13
The process needs to be performed regularly and be as exhaustive as possible
• a strategy allowing to manage the roll out of this process across the entire organisation,
products and countries
• an efficient process manageable with the operational teams
BRUSSELS, 20-21 October
www.ferma.eu
FORUM 2015
Venice, Italy 4-7 October
Challenges
14
The insurance market needs as well to face several challenges :
Conditions of dialog with the insurers
Problem of reputation in case of a claim
Claim settlement
BRUSSELS, 20-21 October
www.ferma.eu
FORUM 2015
Venice, Italy 4-7 October
Conclusion
15
• Our mission to support technological development and to develop the
conditions of securing and mitigating the unavoidable risks that such
opportunities generate.
• Support from top management required down to every level of the
operations.
• The methodology is key to obtain valuable results
• Many challenges are still in front of us all, there is no One response
 A key message from the Board towards external
stakeholders.
 The question on the standard for cyber risk
assessment
BRUSSELS, 20-21 October
www.ferma.eu
FORUM 2015
Venice, Italy 4-7 October
Thank you !
16

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Philippe Cotelle’s presentation on SPICE at AIRBUS, FERMA Forum 2015

  • 1. Cyber risks, a view from the industry Philippe COTELLE Head of Insurance Risk Management
  • 2. BRUSSELS, 20-21 October www.ferma.eu FORUM 2015 Venice, Italy 4-7 October A new industrial revolution 2 Where the aeronautic industry had been so a century ago… … this is how we see this in the coming decade :
  • 3. BRUSSELS, 20-21 October www.ferma.eu FORUM 2015 Venice, Italy 4-7 October Cyber risks exposure Internet : a tool allowing the sharing of information between people in order to create an open world Difficulties to protect companies and their datas from the outside. 4
  • 4. BRUSSELS, 20-21 October www.ferma.eu FORUM 2015 Venice, Italy 4-7 October Reputation What are the obstacles to a good assessment of our cyber risks ? 5 Wrong perception Confidentiality
  • 5. BRUSSELS, 20-21 October www.ferma.eu FORUM 2015 Venice, Italy 4-7 October SPICE initiative (Scenario Planning to Identify Cyber Exposure) 6 A pilot program for Business impact analysis on disaster scenarios affecting our operational capabilities related to a cyber-event Gathering representatives of all the functions as well as IT and IM Security to overcome 3 hurdles : • Explain to the operational people that we need them • Address the security issue with extreme care, • Be prepared to openly discuss some potential scenarios of exposure and do not assume that it is impossible to hack a company like us
  • 6. BRUSSELS, 20-21 October www.ferma.eu FORUM 2015 Venice, Italy 4-7 October Scenarios identification 7 Scenario identification • Focus on disaster scenarios • clear hypothesis
  • 7. BRUSSELS, 20-21 October www.ferma.eu FORUM 2015 Venice, Italy 4-7 October Assessing financial costs 8 Assessing financial cost of each scenario • Split scenarios in 4 different phases • Simplify the list of impacted functions • Compute over/under charge per scenario, per phase 10 46 88 22 Phase A Phase B Phase C Phase D 10 46 88 22 … Financial costs Scenario x Security Breach Crisis Remediation Investments Vigilance Security Breach Detection
  • 8. BRUSSELS, 20-21 October www.ferma.eu FORUM 2015 Venice, Italy 4-7 October Assessing financial costs Lessons learned 9  NUMBERS are related to our financial exposure  There is no final number  The objective is to reach a consensus:  acceptable by everyone  valid for our analysis
  • 9. BRUSSELS, 20-21 October www.ferma.eu FORUM 2015 Venice, Italy 4-7 October Evaluate probability of occurence 10 Quantify the technical probability of success of a scenario to occur • For each step of a given scenario, identify technical ways to proceed • Rate each step with a probability of occurrence (using internal probability scale) Assessment performed by the local Information Management Security APT Kill Chain description used in the technical threat scenario
  • 10. BRUSSELS, 20-21 October www.ferma.eu FORUM 2015 Venice, Italy 4-7 October Evaluate probability of occurrence Lessons learned 11 Same method but different numbers !? 2 different approaches: • Need an homogeneous approach • Associate to each scenario the type of hacker and their motives If an attacker was effectively considering seriously to hack Airbus, then this must be a very strong organisation which in itself should have gathered all those unique skills and resources. Therefore their probabilities were more important. Given the defence systems in place, in order to be successful the attacker should gather so many different skills and resources that this was very unlikely to be plausible. As such the probabilities were therefore very low.
  • 11. BRUSSELS, 20-21 October www.ferma.eu FORUM 2015 Venice, Italy 4-7 October Next Steps Provide a rationale for mitigation strategy 12 Insurance Premium cost is efficient Cost of implementing IT security % of Mitigation IT Investment make sense to mitigate the exposure Justify the interest of the transfer to insurance both for coverage and premium budget • IT investment to reduce the probability of occurrence, until the point of time when costs are too high. • At that point of time insurance becomes complementary (and not competitive) to IT measures and is efficient from a cost point of view Risk identification Risk Assessment Risk Response
  • 12. BRUSSELS, 20-21 October www.ferma.eu FORUM 2015 Venice, Italy 4-7 October Challenges 13 The process needs to be performed regularly and be as exhaustive as possible • a strategy allowing to manage the roll out of this process across the entire organisation, products and countries • an efficient process manageable with the operational teams
  • 13. BRUSSELS, 20-21 October www.ferma.eu FORUM 2015 Venice, Italy 4-7 October Challenges 14 The insurance market needs as well to face several challenges : Conditions of dialog with the insurers Problem of reputation in case of a claim Claim settlement
  • 14. BRUSSELS, 20-21 October www.ferma.eu FORUM 2015 Venice, Italy 4-7 October Conclusion 15 • Our mission to support technological development and to develop the conditions of securing and mitigating the unavoidable risks that such opportunities generate. • Support from top management required down to every level of the operations. • The methodology is key to obtain valuable results • Many challenges are still in front of us all, there is no One response  A key message from the Board towards external stakeholders.  The question on the standard for cyber risk assessment
  • 15. BRUSSELS, 20-21 October www.ferma.eu FORUM 2015 Venice, Italy 4-7 October Thank you ! 16