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physical and spiritual experiences as one, they are both experienced out a something that
could have been good (being with men, or experiencing angels) but the tragic reality dying
from AIDS really is.
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"My mother begged me to find a girl soon, not to be shy, said it was natural for me to like
girls"(p.7).
This quote directly shows the traditional viewpoints of sexuality within religion. From the
reading we can gather that the author wanted to represent this view as a heterosexual
relationship was pushed upon the narrator by his mother. But we are able to understand
that the narrator finds living with AIDS to not affect his spirituality. We see this
acceptance he has with death as he is battling AIDS but the idea of death does not
frighten him and he more-so accepts AIDS as part of his identity.
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"All the while my mother tells her friends and relatives after the funeral that I have
inoperable cancer. It makes it easier for her, she says" (33).
The meaning of the quote is that his own mother had to create this fantasy of him having
cancer rather thank acknowledging the AIDS. That he had to live with others that believed
he was not taking care of himself and wanted to die. As punishment for his sexuality and
having AIDS and having no support from family. His family offered no support and trying
to talk to Jesus to find help with his problems.
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"Through the window, a man watches: he is white, bright as if a hundred candles were
burning inside him. He sees that I am ready, calls more of his people to the window. At
first I pretend not to know what he offers, can taste meat in my mouth, blood on my lips."
(98)
The author is quickly approaching the end of his life but the sight of the man, who I
assume to be God, reminds him that he is alive in that moment. He knows that his body
probably does not have much time left as complication of AIDS arise and he knows that he
can be in a better state with God, but again he is reminded of his li.
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experienced out a something that
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but the tragic reality dying
from AIDS really is.
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"My mother begged me to find a girl soon, not to be shy, said it
was natural for me to like
girls"(p.7).
This quote directly shows the traditional viewpoints of sexuality
within religion. From the
reading we can gather that the author wanted to represent this
view as a heterosexual
relationship was pushed upon the narrator by his mother. But we
are able to understand
that the narrator finds living with AIDS to not affect his
spirituality. We see this
acceptance he has with death as he is battling AIDS but the idea
of death does not
frighten him and he more-so accepts AIDS as part of his
3. identity.
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"All the while my mother tells her friends and relatives after the
funeral that I have
inoperable cancer. It makes it easier for her, she says" (33).
The meaning of the quote is that his own mother had to create
4. this fantasy of him having
cancer rather thank acknowledging the AIDS. That he had to
live with others that believed
he was not taking care of himself and wanted to die. As
punishment for his sexuality and
having AIDS and having no support from family. His family
offered no support and trying
to talk to Jesus to find help with his problems.
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"Through the window, a man watches: he is white, bright as if a
hundred candles were
burning inside him. He sees that I am ready, calls more of his
people to the window. At
first I pretend not to know what he offers, can taste meat in my
mouth, blood on my lips."
(98)
The author is quickly approaching the end of his life but the
sight of the man, who I
5. assume to be God, reminds him that he is alive in that moment.
He knows that his body
probably does not have much time left as complication of AIDS
arise and he knows that he
can be in a better state with God, but again he is reminded of
his life on earth: his mother,
brother, roommate and ex-lover. These people mean so much to
him and it is surely hard
to let all of them go without saying goodbye.
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"She questions me about what my doctor has said, ignores my
response when I say, I'm
just lonely...…."He might as well have shot you." (pg.54)
In this quote the author describes one of the interactions he had
with his mom. It shows us
how his mom told him that he was basically just a dead man
walking. She can't seem to
face him because she's ashamed of him for what happened. It
also shows us that living
with this condition, he did not even have his mom's support.
Instead of trying to be there
for him when he said he was lonely she ignored him because
being around him made her
think of how he contracted the virus. This is very sad because in
his worst moment he
could not even count on his family for emotional support.
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7. “They worried about my ARC diagnosis, but they would never
ask about it. They wondered
when was I going to look like those men they had seen on the
news, men who were dying
of AIDS. They wanted to know when I was going to be sorry for
the things that I did to get
this.”
This quote symbolizes a lot of emotion and devastation when
the author talks about how
his family is completely hurt by his choices of being gay. Later
in the chapter he writes how
his dad would punch the drywall that separates his room from
the authors. He also feels
ashamed when he is about to have sex with someone he calls
himself. “Infectious material”.
Once they were doing oral sex he can tell that it was wrong but
at the same time all he
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"It used to make me sick, the thought of my family, but now I
see it as a legacy that I will
not understand until much later," (98).
When someone is struck with a terminal illness, the relationship
with family oftentimes
changes drastically. Even after all of the abuse and grief that
family can put you through,
the family becomes more of virtue towards the very end. It's
almost as if some things are
so terrible that only death can reconcile these issues.
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"I saw him do these things, in my mind, things that are
considered unsafe, almost sinful
now. I couldn't help but feel cheated, I had done none of these
things. I didn't deserve this
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"It has become ritual to lie on the cold tile, stare at the mold
patched ceiling, skip another
set of pills, what some people call hope." (Cuadros 56)
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"I saw him do these things, in my mind, things that are
considered unsafe, almost sinful
12. now... I had done none of these things. I didn't deserve this
disease." This quote
d t t h th th i d AIDS i h t f i i Alth h h
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"I smile briefly, by now I am used to people not recognizing me
because of weight loss, the
waste of my muscles, but this is different." (97).
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14. confessing their sins, kneeling in a dark room. This is
significant because they reveal how
vulnerable and difficult it is to admit something that can lead to
disappointment or disgust.
Typically when children think of confessing to God, it is a plea
for forgiveness because they
do not realize that God immediately forgives. Unlike people,
God does not hate, resent, or
look at anyone in disgust. However, since God is of higher
power than parents or other
figures, it is common for children to believe God will change
their perception on them
forever and not forgive. The narrator also feels this way with
the person they are talking
to, Nick. The narrator confesses to Nick that he is HIV positive
and thus surfaces feelings
of being like a child confessing their sins, fear of the reaction.
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“Seth was a jealous god, and the brother of Osiris. He had
already tricked Osiris into a
jeweled coffin, floated him off in the Nile...”
15. “Osiris became the god of the dead.”
“All the dead become Osiris.” (pages 146-147)
The author is likening his own battle with AIDS to Egyptian
mythology. Seth represents
AIDS, and Osiris the author and victim. Earlier the poem, the
author expresses that he he’s
on the verge of death. Like Osiris, he’s already been sealed in a
jeweled coffin. The jewels
signify the deception of thinking he was going to live a long,
safe, and healthy life. He’s
already inside the coffin because he knows he is going to die.
Floating down the Nile is a
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fate set in motion before an actual death. The author chose to tie
his own story in with this
mythology because of the significance of the Egyptian theater,
where he had his first gay
sex encounter. Likening himself to the theater, it’s destruction,
damage after an
earthquake, and the talks or saving it that don’t go anywhere, is
a way for him to mirror
what his own body and mind have gone through in living with
AIDS. He has been
damaged, destroyed, and won’t be saved. He is finding a small
bit of solace in relating to
what happened to Osiris after his death.
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Kenneth Roxas posted Mar 9, 2020 3:42 PM
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17. "'Like I'm infectious material.' He winced at this remark. I saw
myself being transported in
an orange-red garbage bag, getting tossed out by sallow-colored
gloves," (Cuadros, 66).
The narrator in this quote feels defiled, filthy, or in this case
"infectious material" due to his
AIDS. This quote shows the dark or conflicting thoughts that
some people living with AIDS
have. In fact before this quote, the narrator somewhat felt like it
was unfair for him to have
AIDS while the man he is with who he describes as a "seedy
person" the does things that
he thinks of as unsafe or "almost sinful" does not have it. It like
the narrator sees that AIDS
as punishment.
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"Before I go, I want to tell my roommate what he needs to take
to stay alive, the astragalus
I have in my closet, this new experimental treatment out of
Korea. I want to call my ex-
lover and explain that I really understand why he had to leave
me, his heart battered like
bronze from all the other deaths in his life. I want my mother to
know I know where all her
anger comes from, and I could just touch a certain spot on her
body, near her breastbone,
19. it would all be released, she would always be warm after that.
But I have come to an end,
thoughts of the world seem woven of thread, thinly disguised, a
veil."
In this quote, I feel that he was talking about how he still had
things to finish in life and
maybe had regrets about what he hadn't done. I think that the
author realized that as he
got down to his last days that everything from his life "is what
it is" and that all of his
thoughts of the world had been disguised by a veil. Maybe
meaning that he saw the world
how he wanted to see and didn't look beyond what he knew.
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Rey Porizek posted Mar 9, 2020 2:02 AM Subscribe
“The doctor wants me to understand, says without this
medication there is no hope;
without this medication you are sure to lose all the sight that
you have; the small
discomfort you’ll experience will be worth it compared to the
alternative; what is one more
drug to you?” (Cuadros 96)
21. onto his list. He politely declines, even though he is aware that
the doctor is telling him the
truth. But by this point, it is clear that the narrator is beginning
to lose hope altogether of
ever fully recovering from his AIDS. It is at this moment where
he not only starts to
portray the idea that he can see other people’s auras, but
peacefully accepts death with
open arms, welcoming the angels to his body.
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