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GODZILLA MEETS
THE LITTLE RED HEN



                 ?
Godzilla Meets the
 Little Red Hen
       Or, the Prescribing Cascade
       Meets the Bedside Observer
                   Johanna Trimble
                      Patient Representative

                            Sponsored by:
Community Engagement Advisory Network, Vancouver Coastal Health Authority

                                 Member:
            World Health Organization Patient Safety Champion
                        BC Patient Voices Network
                 Patients for Patient Safety Canada (CPSI)
The Characters
GODZILLA
Sometimes known as…
•   The Prescribing Cascade
•   Polypharmacy (stand-alone risk)
•   Overmedication (dose, treating test)
•   Too many (9 drugs average in RC, 0-55)
The Little Red Hen
Sometimes known as…
•   The family member
•   The friend
•   The puzzled visitor
•   The staff member
•   The bedside observer
Fervid Trimble, the patient
Fervid’s admission to the Health Centre

• After a ‘flu and dehydration episode, admitted
  to the Health Centre for a few days
  recuperation
• Instead she became bedridden, confused,
  delirious, unable to recognize family plus
  other puzzling symptoms
• SSRI anti-depressant had been prescribed
• Other drugs had been changed or prescribed
Trust your instincts and press for answers

                        Why is
                        this not
                        making
                        sense!??
Hmmm, I
wonder if
 it’s the
 drugs?
Why don’t we ask questions of the professionals?

• “They’re the professionals, they must know” –
  Wrong! they know medicine -- you know the
  patient
• “They’re busy and we’ll annoy them” – Wrong!
  this is your loved one, make an appointment!
• “We’ll make them mad and they’ll call us difficult
  and take it out on her” – Wrong! Do your
  research, be clear, respectful and persistent
• “I’m part of the team!” – RIGHT! You can help
  because you’re nearby observing, comparing
  against baseline and asking questions.
Fervid’s “family care team”
Johanna, Dale, Fervid and Kathie
I’ll consult
my
sources…
I used the internet…reputable sources only!
Another
  UTI?
  What
 the…!?
Serotonin Syndrome:
SSRI antidepressant (citalopram)
               +
  Tramadol (serotonergic pain
  medication to replace Vioxx)
               =
Unrecognized serotonin syndrome
UTI or Serotonin Syndrome?
• Fervid was repeatedly prescribed antibiotics
  for urinary tract infections
• Delirium, elevation of white blood cells,
  frequent urination and fever of SS mistaken
  for a UTI
• Now we’ve got lots of antibiotics prescribed
  and eventually we’re going to see c. difficile
Treating UTI’s and c. difficile
• Starting to be addressed in BC
• Both VCH and Fraser Health are
  working on improving UTI treatment
  protocols to address antibiotic
  overuse & c. difficile
Serotonin Syndrome
• Symptoms include cognitive, autonomic and
  somatic effects & range from barely
  perceptible to fatal
• Clonus, hyperreflexia and flushing are the
  most specific signs.
• Fervid was delirious, making unexplained
  repetitive arm movements (clonus),
  sometimes “asleep” and we couldn’t wake her
Fervid’s Prescribing Cascade

Unrecognized drug adverse effects,
symptoms of Serotonin Syndrome,
were treated with additional drugs
as if these symptoms were new
conditions.
DIGOXIN!? But
the rapid heart
beat was
caused by the
the drugs...!?
A Common Mistake?
                 Fervid’s Cascade:
• SS onset can be either dramatic or insidious
  making it harder to recognize
• Symptoms of SS were treated as a common UTI
  (with nitrofurantoin, Beer’s list antibiotic)
• Rapid heartbeat, symptom of SS, was treated
  with heart medication digoxin (Beer’s list)
• Delusions, hallucinations, confusion were about
  to be addressed using Aricept
• The family declined it and any other prescriptions
  unless consulted first.
ARICEPT!? But
 this delirium
was caused by
  the drugs...
 What the…??
A picture is worth a thousand words…




 Over-medicated    After the “drugectomy”
Being bedridden resulted in loss of function,
Fervid could not return to independent living!
Here we
go
again…
Yes, it can happen twice…
• 3 years later Fervid was admitted to hospital with
  a stomach bleed
• Several new drugs prescribed in hospital
• On return, confusion and delirium ensued
• A new doctor prescribed remeron (serotonergic)
• Symptoms of SS started JUST like 3 years ago
• Antibiotics were prescribed “for UTI” -- again
• Remeron was stopped and Fervid quickly
  returned to normal
Polypharmacy & c. difficile
• Fervid had many antibiotic treatments for UTI’s or
  respiratory infections
• Probably other residents did too
• 5 other residents had c. difficile
• Cleaning & infection protocols substandard or
  inconsistent
• Frequent transfer of staff and patients
• 5 or 6 courses of vancomycin weakened Fervid
  greatly
• No fecal transplant offered except in Australia
Fecal transplant in 2008? (only in Australia)
       Now, in 2013, it is in the news:
• The US Centers for Disease Control has
  issued an urgent plea for fecal transplant
  donors after the recent studies show its
  efficacy
• After much deliberation, CDC Vice-
  Director Dr. Steven Gerrard has
  announced that the drive for fecal donors
  is being launched with the slogan:
    “Save a life. Get your shit together.”
C. difficile
• Fervid may not have died OF c. diff
  but she was greatly weakened and
  died WITH c. difficile
• The important factor is the overuse
  of antibiotics and the growing
  resistance of organisms
Let’s DO
SOMETHING
about
polypharmacy!
BC Polypharmacy Initiative (Shared Care)
www.bcma.org/polypharmacy-initiative
“It’s (about) quality of life…for my residents. I've seen
dramatic differences in the quality of their life when the
BURDEN of their medication is reduced...”
Dedicated to Fervid Trimble 1917 - 2008




  A picnic in the garden with Fervid
Contact:
johanna@daletrimble.com

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D3 - Johanna Trimble - Godzilla Meets the Little Red Hen

  • 2. Godzilla Meets the Little Red Hen Or, the Prescribing Cascade Meets the Bedside Observer Johanna Trimble Patient Representative Sponsored by: Community Engagement Advisory Network, Vancouver Coastal Health Authority Member: World Health Organization Patient Safety Champion BC Patient Voices Network Patients for Patient Safety Canada (CPSI)
  • 5. Sometimes known as… • The Prescribing Cascade • Polypharmacy (stand-alone risk) • Overmedication (dose, treating test) • Too many (9 drugs average in RC, 0-55)
  • 7. Sometimes known as… • The family member • The friend • The puzzled visitor • The staff member • The bedside observer
  • 9. Fervid’s admission to the Health Centre • After a ‘flu and dehydration episode, admitted to the Health Centre for a few days recuperation • Instead she became bedridden, confused, delirious, unable to recognize family plus other puzzling symptoms • SSRI anti-depressant had been prescribed • Other drugs had been changed or prescribed
  • 10. Trust your instincts and press for answers Why is this not making sense!??
  • 11. Hmmm, I wonder if it’s the drugs?
  • 12. Why don’t we ask questions of the professionals? • “They’re the professionals, they must know” – Wrong! they know medicine -- you know the patient • “They’re busy and we’ll annoy them” – Wrong! this is your loved one, make an appointment! • “We’ll make them mad and they’ll call us difficult and take it out on her” – Wrong! Do your research, be clear, respectful and persistent • “I’m part of the team!” – RIGHT! You can help because you’re nearby observing, comparing against baseline and asking questions.
  • 13. Fervid’s “family care team” Johanna, Dale, Fervid and Kathie
  • 15. I used the internet…reputable sources only!
  • 16. Another UTI? What the…!?
  • 17. Serotonin Syndrome: SSRI antidepressant (citalopram) + Tramadol (serotonergic pain medication to replace Vioxx) = Unrecognized serotonin syndrome
  • 18. UTI or Serotonin Syndrome? • Fervid was repeatedly prescribed antibiotics for urinary tract infections • Delirium, elevation of white blood cells, frequent urination and fever of SS mistaken for a UTI • Now we’ve got lots of antibiotics prescribed and eventually we’re going to see c. difficile
  • 19. Treating UTI’s and c. difficile • Starting to be addressed in BC • Both VCH and Fraser Health are working on improving UTI treatment protocols to address antibiotic overuse & c. difficile
  • 20. Serotonin Syndrome • Symptoms include cognitive, autonomic and somatic effects & range from barely perceptible to fatal • Clonus, hyperreflexia and flushing are the most specific signs. • Fervid was delirious, making unexplained repetitive arm movements (clonus), sometimes “asleep” and we couldn’t wake her
  • 21. Fervid’s Prescribing Cascade Unrecognized drug adverse effects, symptoms of Serotonin Syndrome, were treated with additional drugs as if these symptoms were new conditions.
  • 22. DIGOXIN!? But the rapid heart beat was caused by the the drugs...!?
  • 23. A Common Mistake? Fervid’s Cascade: • SS onset can be either dramatic or insidious making it harder to recognize • Symptoms of SS were treated as a common UTI (with nitrofurantoin, Beer’s list antibiotic) • Rapid heartbeat, symptom of SS, was treated with heart medication digoxin (Beer’s list) • Delusions, hallucinations, confusion were about to be addressed using Aricept • The family declined it and any other prescriptions unless consulted first.
  • 24. ARICEPT!? But this delirium was caused by the drugs... What the…??
  • 25. A picture is worth a thousand words… Over-medicated After the “drugectomy”
  • 26. Being bedridden resulted in loss of function, Fervid could not return to independent living!
  • 28. Yes, it can happen twice… • 3 years later Fervid was admitted to hospital with a stomach bleed • Several new drugs prescribed in hospital • On return, confusion and delirium ensued • A new doctor prescribed remeron (serotonergic) • Symptoms of SS started JUST like 3 years ago • Antibiotics were prescribed “for UTI” -- again • Remeron was stopped and Fervid quickly returned to normal
  • 29. Polypharmacy & c. difficile • Fervid had many antibiotic treatments for UTI’s or respiratory infections • Probably other residents did too • 5 other residents had c. difficile • Cleaning & infection protocols substandard or inconsistent • Frequent transfer of staff and patients • 5 or 6 courses of vancomycin weakened Fervid greatly • No fecal transplant offered except in Australia
  • 30. Fecal transplant in 2008? (only in Australia) Now, in 2013, it is in the news: • The US Centers for Disease Control has issued an urgent plea for fecal transplant donors after the recent studies show its efficacy • After much deliberation, CDC Vice- Director Dr. Steven Gerrard has announced that the drive for fecal donors is being launched with the slogan: “Save a life. Get your shit together.”
  • 31. C. difficile • Fervid may not have died OF c. diff but she was greatly weakened and died WITH c. difficile • The important factor is the overuse of antibiotics and the growing resistance of organisms
  • 33. BC Polypharmacy Initiative (Shared Care) www.bcma.org/polypharmacy-initiative
  • 34. “It’s (about) quality of life…for my residents. I've seen dramatic differences in the quality of their life when the BURDEN of their medication is reduced...”
  • 35. Dedicated to Fervid Trimble 1917 - 2008 A picnic in the garden with Fervid