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buckets
and vessels
 Aaron Straup Cope
 Museums and the Web 2010




[http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdawg/4279727444]
hello




Hi, my name is Aaron.

I am from Stamen Design, a design studio in San Francisco with a focus on data visualization and cartography. Some of you
may have seen the ArtScope project we did for the SFMOMA, a few years back.

I have only recently joined the studio and before that spent five all-consuming years helping to build Flickr.
Iʼd like to start with a story: Back in 1992 when the web still did not exist for me and I thought of myself as a painter I was
young and brash enough to send the writer Kurt Vonnegut a stack of drawings and asked if he would like to collaborate on a
project.

A few months later I received a personal reply. Vonnegut both complimented my work and deftly avoided my suggestion
altogether.

The thing that Iʼve always remembered, though, is his comment about what he was supposed to do with the work Iʼd sent him.
“When I die,” he said, “I will be found among dunes of terrific stuff from strangers which I didnʼt have the balls to throw away.”
I think thatʼs a situation that most of us increasingly find ourselves in. It certainly seems to be the case talking to people in the
museum and archiving world and hearing stories of warehouses of materials yet to be investigated or even opened yet.

You see this same phenomena happening in individual lives, as well, as we share and collect and produce more and more stuff
digitally and on the Internet.

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/4501439767]
what and why
                        information wants
                        to be seenvs.
                                 how

The astronaut Rusty Schweikart has talked about this in the context of “near earth objects” (what the rest of us know as
“asteroids”).

It is not as though there has been a sudden increase in the number of asteroids that may potentially crash in Earth but rather
that, as our ability to create more powerful telescopes increases we are simply noticing more of them.

Thereʼs a pattern here, I think, that has less to do with any technology per se than the fact than that we eat with our eyes and
not with our stomach. Which is not a criticism. We choose, we work, to live in a bountiful world because the alternative is too
depressing to imagine.

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/4411530289]
all you can eat




That has certainly been the experience at Flickr. We have struggled with ways to ... the depth and vibrancy of the work on the
site.

Typically, this has meant blanketing the entire corpus with a machine-learning or search algorithm of dubious subtlety and
suffering the expectations from userʼs that by virtue of their photo being included (or excluded) their work has been validated
by Flickr staff.

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/4147960336]
galleries




In September of 2009, Flickr launched the Galleries project. Galleries are meant to be a way to allow users to curate other
peopleʼs photos to create... The goals of the project were two-fold.

The first was to use the community of users on Flickr to ... photos based on their experience of the site itself. To ask users
the tyranny of motivation



The second goal was to actively encourage members to think differently about their role and contributions to the site.

The only enforced constraints around galleries were the exclusion of a userʼs own photo and a limit on the number of photos
that could be included in a single gallery.

We wanted members to think of Flickr as not just a vehicle for their own photographs and reputation, but also as a place for
active investigation and creation of narratives drawn from their experience, and interpretation of other people's work.
“buckets of search?”

Galleries was not an obvious project for some people. Questions were raised whether it was really necessary, or wise, to add
yet-another categorization to the mix.
the act of choosing

We wanted to actively promote the act of choosing and tried to do it with as little friction as possible. A limit of 18; Not your
own photos.

Other than that, the act of choosing photos in a gallery was “theme” enough.

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/bitterbetty/1811989037]
Galleries have been live for about six months now. In the first week there were 25, 000 galleries and as of today there are over
500, 000.

I have been told that if the total number of photos favourited in Flickr in the last six years is (n) then the number of photos that
have been added to Galleries is already 15% of (n). In just six months!

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/secret_canadian/galleries/72157623155364950]
http://sta.mn/2k
                          http://thingsicantfave.appspot.com/faves/35034348999@N01/galleries




                          http://sta.mn/7z
                          http://delicious.com/straup/galleries+flickr




I could spend this entire talk just showing you galleries that Iʼve fallen in love with. But that would be boring the truth is that
galleries donʼt lend themselves to screenshots. I like that because I think it means we succeeded in creating something greater
than the sum of the individual photos.

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/3567759383]
http://sta.mn/n5b
                           http://docent.husk.org




There is also Paul Misonʼs website “docent” which is built using the Flickr API and aggregates galleries created by your Flickr
contacts.

[http://docent.husk.org]
Stewart Butterfield used to describe Flickrʼs mission, or purpose, as the “eyes of the world” which is an easy and lovely idea to
get behind.

We took a lot of inspiration from The Boston Globeʼs “The Big Picture” while we were building Galleries. One of the things we
talked a lot about was the notion of “Little Big Pictures” which is nothing more than hooks to allow people to indicate that one
gallery was a response to another, be it a critique or simply another view.

To create a dialectic in photographs rather than a language of specialization or expertise.

We always thought that something like the Flickr Blog would be the starting point for these threads but it turns out to be just
the opposite which is lovely and wonderful in its own way!

[http://blog.flickr.net/en/2010/04/07/lonely-barber]
[http://blog.flickr.net/en/2006/03/24/eyes-of-the-world]
a curatorial muscle




I want to suggest to you that Galleries is a reflection of something that is happening as people are able to create and share
stuff with increasing ease online: They are discovering a curatorial muscle they did not know ever existed. They are
discovering that to curate something it to create something.

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/richardsummers/2961486604]
DOCENT
                                                                                         EXPERT




                     CRITIC
And that one consequence is that previously understood and established roles are starting to get very confused.

At this point I should mention that I am not suggesting that there is a revolution in the streets, or that anyone is storming the
gates or that anyone is calling for the end of expertise. Itʼs just not so lonely outside the gates, anymore. In fact thereʼs a giant
party going on.

What is happening though is that much of the economic infrastructure -- the means of production -- that has framed these
roles is being dismantled by the Internet and Max Andersonʼs “other 96%” have a way to not only join the conversation but
start their own.

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/karetchko/3756812662]
ART
                                                                                        CRAFT




                  DESIGN
Weʼve been watching this happen for a while in the world of artists and designers and crafts-people.

It is no longer clear what separates one from the other in ways that make the traditional arts vs. crafts debate seem quaint.
Artists are producing “designer” bags, designers are talking about their work as bespoke “pieces” and crafts-people are busy
blazing trails across the Internet and the technology world. Think: Threadless and the larger world of textiles (aka “wearable
computing”) beyond that.

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/karetchko/3756812662]
Etsy.com and Regretsy.com are interesting examples of the phenomena. Etsy.com is a wildly successful community site where
people can buy and sell crafts and other bespoke products.

Regretsy.com equal parts art critic and curator of strange and interesting and often plain-old wrong work being sold on Etsy.
Regretsy is basically the new Clement Greenberg.

You should feel like you need to think any of this looks like any kind of curatorial practice you know. Itʼs not. What I want to
focus on is less the form of the practice than the practice itself. The point is what happens when everyone starts to do the thing
you do.

To actively create context(s) around the present through which they can be examined in the future.

[http://www.regretsy.com/2009/10/24/snacks-on-a-plane]
One of the criticisms of the Flickr Commons, though, has been that it lends itself to a tyranny of voices and trivial
conversational snippets like “cool” or “I like this!”

Thatʼs a reasonable criticism (although itʼs worth considering all those comments and notes as a kind of zeitgeist or prism with
which to consider items of “value”). This is especially true of popular works like those from the Library of Congress.

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2179930812]
But maybe the problem isnʼt that community participation is a failed experiment but, simply, that some of the tools need to be
re-considered. It is, in fact, pretty easy to argue that “notes” on Flickr are too blunt an instrument to effectively share
knowledge. Thatʼs hardly a reason to question the entire project.

Here is the Galleries page for that same photo which, to my eyes, is, instantly more interesting.

To repeat: To actively create context(s) around the present through which they can be examined in the future.

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2179930812/galleries]
The value of the Commons in not as a digital storage archive; that's largely a technological problem that's been solved. The
value is the larger context in which the works included exist, specifically the community, but also the mass of unrelated photos
that surrounds them: The pictures of kittens and beaches and weddings and even the absurd awards and comments. The
value of the Commons is that, like the Brooklyn Museumʼs Visible Storage Center, it offers a broader environment in which to
imagine the work, to ground it in a larger possibility space of associations and meanings.

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/annafine/galleries/72157622680880927]
the bias knob



There have also been criticisms of a kind of fetishization of the term “curation” for what are essentially just lists.

The brutal truth is that anything that looks like an “authority record” will be eaten alive by robots. Thatʼs not a reason to stop
creating authoritative records but if thatʼs all you do then I expect youʼll run out of oxygen pretty quickly.

The practice of highlighting selected works and the relationships between them and of finding meaning in the sum of their
parts is becoming as much a survival strategy in an age of abundant data as a cultural pursuit. People really do care about
what you do but there is still very much a
language barrier thatʼs preventing otherwise natural collaborations and understanding.

I think that barrier is mostly a function of the economics of the arts and cultural heritage and probably means that youʼre
probably have to go to “them” rather than asking people to play catch-up with your years of experience.
http://sta.mn/27
                                  http://www.archimuse.com/mw2010/papers/cope/cope.html




And itʼs going to be messy. Donʼt worry about that part. This is what you do and youʼre good at it. We are all suddenly finding
ourselves in a boat with many of the same problems that curators and historians and archivists have been struggling with for
years.

Remember: The how is just a function of the why. Right now the best we can do is throw ourselves at the problem and leave
ourselves sign-posts along the way of what not to do.

To consider the “far side of the adventure.”

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/4458424818]
1/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdawg/4279727444/
             4/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/4501439767/
             5/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/4411530289
             6/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/4147960336/
             10/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bitterbetty/1811989037/
             11/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/secret_canadian/galleries/72157623155364950
             12/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/3567759383/
             13/ http://docent.husk.org
             14/ http://blog.flickr.net/en/2010/04/07/lonely-barber/
             15/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/richardsummers/2961486604/
             16, 17/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/karetchko/3756812662/
             18/ http://www.regretsy.com/2009/10/24/snacks-on-a-plane/
             19/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2179930812/
             20/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2179930812/galleries
             21/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/annafine/galleries/72157622680880927
             23/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/4458424818/

             http://delicious.com/straup/communitiesofsuggestion
             http://www.aaronland.info/talks




Thank you.

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Buckets and Vessels

  • 1. buckets and vessels Aaron Straup Cope Museums and the Web 2010 [http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdawg/4279727444]
  • 2. hello Hi, my name is Aaron. I am from Stamen Design, a design studio in San Francisco with a focus on data visualization and cartography. Some of you may have seen the ArtScope project we did for the SFMOMA, a few years back. I have only recently joined the studio and before that spent five all-consuming years helping to build Flickr.
  • 3. Iʼd like to start with a story: Back in 1992 when the web still did not exist for me and I thought of myself as a painter I was young and brash enough to send the writer Kurt Vonnegut a stack of drawings and asked if he would like to collaborate on a project. A few months later I received a personal reply. Vonnegut both complimented my work and deftly avoided my suggestion altogether. The thing that Iʼve always remembered, though, is his comment about what he was supposed to do with the work Iʼd sent him. “When I die,” he said, “I will be found among dunes of terrific stuff from strangers which I didnʼt have the balls to throw away.”
  • 4. I think thatʼs a situation that most of us increasingly find ourselves in. It certainly seems to be the case talking to people in the museum and archiving world and hearing stories of warehouses of materials yet to be investigated or even opened yet. You see this same phenomena happening in individual lives, as well, as we share and collect and produce more and more stuff digitally and on the Internet. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/4501439767]
  • 5. what and why information wants to be seenvs. how The astronaut Rusty Schweikart has talked about this in the context of “near earth objects” (what the rest of us know as “asteroids”). It is not as though there has been a sudden increase in the number of asteroids that may potentially crash in Earth but rather that, as our ability to create more powerful telescopes increases we are simply noticing more of them. Thereʼs a pattern here, I think, that has less to do with any technology per se than the fact than that we eat with our eyes and not with our stomach. Which is not a criticism. We choose, we work, to live in a bountiful world because the alternative is too depressing to imagine. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/4411530289]
  • 6. all you can eat That has certainly been the experience at Flickr. We have struggled with ways to ... the depth and vibrancy of the work on the site. Typically, this has meant blanketing the entire corpus with a machine-learning or search algorithm of dubious subtlety and suffering the expectations from userʼs that by virtue of their photo being included (or excluded) their work has been validated by Flickr staff. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/4147960336]
  • 7. galleries In September of 2009, Flickr launched the Galleries project. Galleries are meant to be a way to allow users to curate other peopleʼs photos to create... The goals of the project were two-fold. The first was to use the community of users on Flickr to ... photos based on their experience of the site itself. To ask users
  • 8. the tyranny of motivation The second goal was to actively encourage members to think differently about their role and contributions to the site. The only enforced constraints around galleries were the exclusion of a userʼs own photo and a limit on the number of photos that could be included in a single gallery. We wanted members to think of Flickr as not just a vehicle for their own photographs and reputation, but also as a place for active investigation and creation of narratives drawn from their experience, and interpretation of other people's work.
  • 9. “buckets of search?” Galleries was not an obvious project for some people. Questions were raised whether it was really necessary, or wise, to add yet-another categorization to the mix.
  • 10. the act of choosing We wanted to actively promote the act of choosing and tried to do it with as little friction as possible. A limit of 18; Not your own photos. Other than that, the act of choosing photos in a gallery was “theme” enough. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/bitterbetty/1811989037]
  • 11. Galleries have been live for about six months now. In the first week there were 25, 000 galleries and as of today there are over 500, 000. I have been told that if the total number of photos favourited in Flickr in the last six years is (n) then the number of photos that have been added to Galleries is already 15% of (n). In just six months! [http://www.flickr.com/photos/secret_canadian/galleries/72157623155364950]
  • 12. http://sta.mn/2k http://thingsicantfave.appspot.com/faves/35034348999@N01/galleries http://sta.mn/7z http://delicious.com/straup/galleries+flickr I could spend this entire talk just showing you galleries that Iʼve fallen in love with. But that would be boring the truth is that galleries donʼt lend themselves to screenshots. I like that because I think it means we succeeded in creating something greater than the sum of the individual photos. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/3567759383]
  • 13. http://sta.mn/n5b http://docent.husk.org There is also Paul Misonʼs website “docent” which is built using the Flickr API and aggregates galleries created by your Flickr contacts. [http://docent.husk.org]
  • 14. Stewart Butterfield used to describe Flickrʼs mission, or purpose, as the “eyes of the world” which is an easy and lovely idea to get behind. We took a lot of inspiration from The Boston Globeʼs “The Big Picture” while we were building Galleries. One of the things we talked a lot about was the notion of “Little Big Pictures” which is nothing more than hooks to allow people to indicate that one gallery was a response to another, be it a critique or simply another view. To create a dialectic in photographs rather than a language of specialization or expertise. We always thought that something like the Flickr Blog would be the starting point for these threads but it turns out to be just the opposite which is lovely and wonderful in its own way! [http://blog.flickr.net/en/2010/04/07/lonely-barber] [http://blog.flickr.net/en/2006/03/24/eyes-of-the-world]
  • 15. a curatorial muscle I want to suggest to you that Galleries is a reflection of something that is happening as people are able to create and share stuff with increasing ease online: They are discovering a curatorial muscle they did not know ever existed. They are discovering that to curate something it to create something. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/richardsummers/2961486604]
  • 16. DOCENT EXPERT CRITIC And that one consequence is that previously understood and established roles are starting to get very confused. At this point I should mention that I am not suggesting that there is a revolution in the streets, or that anyone is storming the gates or that anyone is calling for the end of expertise. Itʼs just not so lonely outside the gates, anymore. In fact thereʼs a giant party going on. What is happening though is that much of the economic infrastructure -- the means of production -- that has framed these roles is being dismantled by the Internet and Max Andersonʼs “other 96%” have a way to not only join the conversation but start their own. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/karetchko/3756812662]
  • 17. ART CRAFT DESIGN Weʼve been watching this happen for a while in the world of artists and designers and crafts-people. It is no longer clear what separates one from the other in ways that make the traditional arts vs. crafts debate seem quaint. Artists are producing “designer” bags, designers are talking about their work as bespoke “pieces” and crafts-people are busy blazing trails across the Internet and the technology world. Think: Threadless and the larger world of textiles (aka “wearable computing”) beyond that. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/karetchko/3756812662]
  • 18. Etsy.com and Regretsy.com are interesting examples of the phenomena. Etsy.com is a wildly successful community site where people can buy and sell crafts and other bespoke products. Regretsy.com equal parts art critic and curator of strange and interesting and often plain-old wrong work being sold on Etsy. Regretsy is basically the new Clement Greenberg. You should feel like you need to think any of this looks like any kind of curatorial practice you know. Itʼs not. What I want to focus on is less the form of the practice than the practice itself. The point is what happens when everyone starts to do the thing you do. To actively create context(s) around the present through which they can be examined in the future. [http://www.regretsy.com/2009/10/24/snacks-on-a-plane]
  • 19. One of the criticisms of the Flickr Commons, though, has been that it lends itself to a tyranny of voices and trivial conversational snippets like “cool” or “I like this!” Thatʼs a reasonable criticism (although itʼs worth considering all those comments and notes as a kind of zeitgeist or prism with which to consider items of “value”). This is especially true of popular works like those from the Library of Congress. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2179930812]
  • 20. But maybe the problem isnʼt that community participation is a failed experiment but, simply, that some of the tools need to be re-considered. It is, in fact, pretty easy to argue that “notes” on Flickr are too blunt an instrument to effectively share knowledge. Thatʼs hardly a reason to question the entire project. Here is the Galleries page for that same photo which, to my eyes, is, instantly more interesting. To repeat: To actively create context(s) around the present through which they can be examined in the future. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2179930812/galleries]
  • 21. The value of the Commons in not as a digital storage archive; that's largely a technological problem that's been solved. The value is the larger context in which the works included exist, specifically the community, but also the mass of unrelated photos that surrounds them: The pictures of kittens and beaches and weddings and even the absurd awards and comments. The value of the Commons is that, like the Brooklyn Museumʼs Visible Storage Center, it offers a broader environment in which to imagine the work, to ground it in a larger possibility space of associations and meanings. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/annafine/galleries/72157622680880927]
  • 22. the bias knob There have also been criticisms of a kind of fetishization of the term “curation” for what are essentially just lists. The brutal truth is that anything that looks like an “authority record” will be eaten alive by robots. Thatʼs not a reason to stop creating authoritative records but if thatʼs all you do then I expect youʼll run out of oxygen pretty quickly. The practice of highlighting selected works and the relationships between them and of finding meaning in the sum of their parts is becoming as much a survival strategy in an age of abundant data as a cultural pursuit. People really do care about what you do but there is still very much a language barrier thatʼs preventing otherwise natural collaborations and understanding. I think that barrier is mostly a function of the economics of the arts and cultural heritage and probably means that youʼre probably have to go to “them” rather than asking people to play catch-up with your years of experience.
  • 23. http://sta.mn/27 http://www.archimuse.com/mw2010/papers/cope/cope.html And itʼs going to be messy. Donʼt worry about that part. This is what you do and youʼre good at it. We are all suddenly finding ourselves in a boat with many of the same problems that curators and historians and archivists have been struggling with for years. Remember: The how is just a function of the why. Right now the best we can do is throw ourselves at the problem and leave ourselves sign-posts along the way of what not to do. To consider the “far side of the adventure.” [http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/4458424818]
  • 24. 1/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdawg/4279727444/ 4/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/4501439767/ 5/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/4411530289 6/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/4147960336/ 10/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bitterbetty/1811989037/ 11/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/secret_canadian/galleries/72157623155364950 12/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/3567759383/ 13/ http://docent.husk.org 14/ http://blog.flickr.net/en/2010/04/07/lonely-barber/ 15/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/richardsummers/2961486604/ 16, 17/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/karetchko/3756812662/ 18/ http://www.regretsy.com/2009/10/24/snacks-on-a-plane/ 19/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2179930812/ 20/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2179930812/galleries 21/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/annafine/galleries/72157622680880927 23/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/straup/4458424818/ http://delicious.com/straup/communitiesofsuggestion http://www.aaronland.info/talks Thank you.