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On the development of beliefs vs. capacities: A post-metaphysical view of Second tier skillfulness ,[object Object],Tom Murray,[object Object],Integral Theory Conference,[object Object],August 2010, JFK University,[object Object],1,[object Object]
Integral as EpistemicsMethodolgcl. Pluralism | Perspectives | Post-metaphysics,[object Object],Integral theory (esp. “Wilber-5”) is fundamentally about Epistemology and Method,[object Object],How do we know? What can we know is true/real?,[object Object],How do we discover and  justify what we think is true or good?,[object Object],Epistemics: knowledge, belief, method, certainty, theories, concepts…,[object Object],Includes emotional, social, ethical: uncertainty, unknowing, assumptions & worldviews, communication, decision making…,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],2,[object Object]
An inquiry into belief-holding,[object Object],Exploring what an integral or second tier approach to belief and knowledge could mean ,[object Object],…what integralists believe (and don’t believe),[object Object],What do we think it is important for others to believe/know/do based on integral theories?,[object Object],Our relationship to what we believe: ,[object Object],How certain can we be?,[object Object],How do we explain, promote, critique, justify?  ,[object Object],How do we respond to other belief systems? ,[object Object],Epistemological and ethical implications…?,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],3,[object Object]
Portability of integral ideas,[object Object],4,[object Object],THEM,[object Object],Beliefs, values??,[object Object],US (integralists),[object Object],beliefs, knowledge, values…,[object Object],Skills??,[object Object]
Overview,[object Object],Development described in terms ofbeliefs and world views  vs. skills and capacitates,[object Object],Post-metaphysicsas part of second-tier enacting & skill,[object Object],Positive & Negative Capability(and ethical implications),[object Object],…Audience deliberation…,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],5,[object Object]
In groups of 3 or 4 (10 min.),[object Object],Reflect on an idea or “truth” from integral theory/practice or evolutionary spirituality that you have tried to explain to friends/colleagues (with limited success!). ,[object Object],How do you know/explain it is true or valid?  ,[object Object],How certain were/are you?,[object Object],Why did you want them to understand it?,[object Object],6,[object Object]
Some New Age vs. Integral Beliefs,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],7,[object Object],mythical, magical or metaphysical thinking??,[object Object]
Integral/Evolutionary Beliefs and Concepts,[object Object],How do we know/prove what is true/”real”?  How sure can we be?,[object Object],[object Object]
The universe is evolving – through us
All objects/events/perspectives fit in 4 quadrants
The True, the Good, the Beautiful..
Gross, Subtle, Causal, Non-dual states
Subtle energies and chakras.  Synchronicities
Over-soul; Spirit; Authentic Self; Omega Point
Collective consciousness?  Intuition?  Flow? Morphogenetic field? Ground of Being? Involution?
Higher meditative states/truths (oneness, wholeness, light, love, emptiness…)Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  May 2010,[object Object],8,[object Object]
Belief and certainty/commitment,[object Object],We take integral ideas seriously — believe they are useful to us and to others,[object Object],What exists (metaphysics) vs. what is true,[object Object],Habermas: to believe an idea is to be prepared to justify it,[object Object],But belief has a spectrum of certainty/commitment,[object Object],What is most important to commit to? Vs. be laissez-faire or hypothetical about? (why?),[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],9,[object Object]
Interdependent modes of justification/critique— which did you use/observe? —,[object Object],First hand experience,[object Object],Deep intuition (or gut feeling),[object Object],Reasonable assumptions/bases/premises,[object Object],Logical inference (supporting truth) ,[object Object],It is ethically right,[object Object],It is pragmatically useful (it works),[object Object],Consistent with other knowledge,[object Object],Support of experts/authorities,[object Object],Trusted sources (journal, NPR, etc.),[object Object],Someone I know and trust believes it,[object Object],Most people (peers in my group) believe it,[object Object],I used a trusted method,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  May 2010,[object Object],10,[object Object]
Second tier transcends & includesmagical, mythical, conventional, modern modes of justification,[object Object],Q is when and how to we use these modes?,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],11,[object Object]
Magical thinking,[object Object],All is one; there are no boundaries; we are all connected,[object Object],Nonliving things have an animate life force; intentions, can hurt & bless,[object Object],Powerful beings (gods, spirits…) can punish or reward; we are vulnerable  ,[object Object],I have the psychic power to effect the world; bless or curse; pray, manifest; (omnipotency) ,[object Object],I hear inner messages; I use special objects and rituals to access divinations,[object Object],Impulses and emotions and power dynamics determine my actions (not abstract ideas or plans),[object Object],Wishful thinking (the unwanted is unreal),[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  May 2010,[object Object],12,[object Object]
Magical/mythical thinking,[object Object],How do we know: What to believe or do?,[object Object],-- same criteria for the true and the good: --,[object Object],Authority figures and charismatics,[object Object],Magical or sacred books and objects,[object Object],Social norms, habit, they way it has been,[object Object],Peer pressure; what everyone else does,[object Object],My own experience,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  May 2010,[object Object],13,[object Object]
Magical/mythical thinking (2),[object Object],Little differentiation between:,[object Object],Inner vs. outer (ideas & imaginings vs. reality),[object Object],The true and the good/right,[object Object],Thoughts and feelings,[object Object],Self and group,[object Object],Past, present, future ,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  May 2010,[object Object],14,[object Object]
Then comes Blue/Amber, Orange…,[object Object],[object Object]
Orange meme: systematic, possibilities/probabilities, logic; rigor, efficiency & perfection drives
Differentiating/discriminating:
Feelings vs. thoughts
Interiors vs. exteriors (self reflection)
True / Good / Beautiful (scientific method) (what is vs. what should be)
Self vs. group/culture
Belief vs. truthTom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  May 2010,[object Object],15,[object Object]
Integral/Second Tier thinking?,[object Object],…more exploration later…,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],16,[object Object]
Theories/narratives of human development,[object Object],As shared and promoted within the integral community…,[object Object],17,[object Object]
A heuristic spectrumof developmental narratives,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],18,[object Object],WHAT one believes,[object Object],HOW one believes/thinks,[object Object],What on does/can DO,[object Object],Skills &Capacities,[object Object],Beliefs &World Views,[object Object],(Virtues, Habits),[object Object],(Values, Identity,),[object Object]
“Skill” = ,[object Object],Higher order skills, capacities, capabilities, "skillful means" ,[object Object],Cognitive, social/ethical/emotional skills,[object Object],E.g. systemic thinking, ego awareness, construct awareness, leadership, communication, empathy,[object Object],The beliefs in focus are meaning-generative:cultural, metaphysical, spiritual, philosophical…  (not concrete facts),[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],19,[object Object]
Tentative Assumptions,[object Object],Value of stage-based theories of development for (is and ought):,[object Object],Descriptive models of human development,[object Object],Prescriptive:,[object Object],“Health of the spiral”; “Greatest depth for greatest span”,[object Object],More “second tier” capacity in general ,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],20,[object Object]
E.G. belief & world-view basedNarratives of human development,[object Object],Cohen & Hamilton’s Evolutionary Enlightenment,[object Object],Kosmos Journal,[object Object],McIntosh’s Integral Consciousness,[object Object],Beck & Cohen’s Spiral Dynamics,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],21,[object Object]
Belief & World-view basedNarratives of human develpment,[object Object],Cohen & Hamilton’s Evolutionary Enlightenment:,[object Object],An "evolutionary context" in which "who and what God is can no longer be taken as fixed—that from a developmental perspective, God is also evolving, just as we are" ,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],22,[object Object]
Kosmos Journal(Nancy Roof, Ed.),[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],23,[object Object]
McIntosh’s Integral Consciousness,[object Object],Promotes an "integral worldview" and,[object Object],“Integral consciousness [that is] a new perspective on the world that expands our perception of reality and provides fresh motivation…arises from and enlarged set of values framed by an expanded understanding of cultural evolution" ,[object Object],"[if] you read and consider the ideas in this book, they will literally raise your consciousness" ,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],24,[object Object]
Beck & Cohen’s Spiral Dynamics (text),[object Object],A sequence of core intelligences or memes, that each "reflects a worldview, a valuing system…a belief structure, an organizing principle, a way of thinking or mode of adjustment" ,[object Object],But: talks about and around skills without getting sufficiently specific about exactly what they are, and focus more on human drives, needs, motivation, and values,[object Object],Skills implied but not fleshed out in a teachable or measurable way,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],25,[object Object]
Skill & Capacity approaches to development,[object Object],Action Logics (Cook-Greuter & Torbert),[object Object],Kegan’s Subject/Object Theory,[object Object],Skill Theory & Hierarchical Complexity Theory (Fischer, Commons, Dawson, Stein),[object Object],Many “developmentalists” past and present,[object Object],(Wilber – covers both ‘sides of the fence’),[object Object],Psychologists/sociologists focusing on describing, understanding, measuring, supporting human capacity ,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],26,[object Object]
Second Tier Skills/Capacities(integral, post-formal, post-post-modern),[object Object],[object Object]
Thinking skills & social/emotional skills:
Communication & Collaboration
Leadership & Conflict resolution & Parenting
Knowledge building & Systems design
Self-awareness & self-directed learning
Epistemology—one’s relationship to belief
Wisdom skills — relates belief to action Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],27,[object Object]
Wisdom Skills,[object Object],Egoawareness (self/ego/will and being/spirit/essence; "I" dimension),[object Object],Relationalawareness (emotional/social/ethical/interpersonal intelligence; "We" dimension),[object Object],Constructawareness(cognitive; "It" dimension),[object Object],Systemsawareness ("Its" dimension; also a cognitive capacity, but reflecting on dynamic systems and networks of relationships as opposed to mental constructs),[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],28,[object Object]
Memes as Beliefs vs. Skills,[object Object],Critical mass to establish a meme,[object Object],Then people from any level can be attracted to it,[object Object],“Mean Green Meme” is actually a cultural identity grouping that does not reflect green skill development,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  May 2010,[object Object],29,[object Object]
Some Problems with Development as a Worldview or Belief System ,[object Object],Beliefs: perspectival, culturally bound, fallible ,[object Object],Attached to identity and support in/out group,[object Object],Beliefs can “clash” in struggles of power and identity; skills are “cognitive tools” ,[object Object],Beliefs-systems can be ideologies/dogmas (manipulation/misconception/misuse),[object Object],Charismatic propaganda, peer pressure (inculcation/adoption vs. teaching/learning),[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],30,[object Object]
Supporting Belief vs. Skill,[object Object],Design of skill/capacity support is more difficult ,[object Object],Persuasion/argumentation are ancient arts,[object Object],Articulating & supporting skills is new,[object Object],Requires special knowledge; more precision	,[object Object],Skill acquisition: ,[object Object],Instruct, model, practice (practice!), feedback,[object Object],Support and challenge,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],31,[object Object]
The value of belief systems,[object Object],Motivation, intention, vision!,[object Object],…when and why to USE skills/capacities,[object Object],Power of story, myth, narrative ,[object Object],Shared world-view ,[object Object],Synergetic action, solidarity, meaning-generation,[object Object],Stable base for new levels of cultural evolution,[object Object],Need shared beliefs (community) to create skills? ,[object Object],“Beliefs” can be stable useable knowledge of “how things work”,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],32,[object Object]
A post-metaphysical approach to belief – holding?,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],33,[object Object]
Integral & post-metaphysical injunctions,[object Object],Don’t confuse map with territory,[object Object],Avoid the Myth of the Given,[object Object],Take a post-metaphysical perspective,[object Object],Good goals – but can we enact them??,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],34,[object Object]
Post-metaphysics,[object Object],How we hold or beliefs,[object Object],Level/type of certainty & importance (emotional),[object Object],How we explain or promote beliefs (cognitive),[object Object],Who should believe them and to what ends? (ethical),[object Object],Involves second tier skills/knowledge of “how the mind/ideas work” ,[object Object],concepts, models, communication, ego…,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],35,[object Object]
…some useful distinctions…,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],36,[object Object]
Further deconstructing my argument,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],37,[object Object],Skills &Capacities,[object Object],Beliefs &World Views,[object Object],Models & Theories,[object Object],(Values, Identity, Virtues, Habits),[object Object],Facts &Knowledge ,[object Object]
Belief/knowledge structuresa useful framework,[object Object],Non/pre-Linguistic:,[object Object],Experience (phenomena; what happens),[object Object],Linguistic / symbolic ,[object Object],Concepts (categories; what exists; is real),[object Object],			      (concrete … > … abstract),[object Object],Statements (propositions; what is true/right),[object Object],Model/Theory (system of related beliefs),[object Object],[World-view],[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],38,[object Object]
Belief/knowledge structures (2),[object Object],Linguistic / symbolic ,[object Object],Concepts,[object Object],Examples,[object Object],Taste of chocolate; gut certainty;,[object Object],meditative state; being a parent; ,[object Object],a baseball game; (intuitions…),[object Object],Tree, democracy, interior,  consciousness…,[object Object],Trees are…; We should…; the cognitive line leads…,[object Object],AQAL, SD, Einstein’s, ….,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],39,[object Object],Non/pre-Linguistic:,[object Object],Experience,[object Object],Statements,[object Object],Model/Theory,[object Object]
Concept Indeterminacy(Lakoff),[object Object],Abstract Concepts:,[object Object],Graded (fuzzy),[object Object],Metaphorical (limited by embodiment),[object Object],Have “metaphorical pluralism”,[object Object],Generate polarities, paradoxes,[object Object],A fragile house of cards used to build up (abstract) statements,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],40,[object Object]
Interdependent modes of statement justification/critique— (revisited) —,[object Object],First hand experience,[object Object],Deep intuition (or gut feeling),[object Object],Reasonable assumptions/bases/premises,[object Object],Logical inference (supporting truth) ,[object Object],It is ethically right,[object Object],It is pragmatically useful (it works),[object Object],Consistent with other knowledge,[object Object],Support of experts/authorities,[object Object],Trusted sources (journal, NPR, etc.),[object Object],Someone I know and trust believes it,[object Object],Most people (peers in my group) believe it,[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  May 2010,[object Object],41,[object Object]
Model/Theory indeterminacy/fallibility,[object Object],Kuhn…,[object Object],Lakatos…,[object Object],Latour…,[object Object],Meta-theorists…,[object Object],(Rob Smith: “integral is the mother of all escapes”),[object Object],Tom Murray |  www.perspegrity.com  |  August 2010,[object Object],42,[object Object]
Group reflections onthings said to Exist (concepts),[object Object],OBJECTS / Concepts,[object Object],QUESTIONS,[object Object],[object Object]
Involution
UR, LL, …quadrants

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On the development of beliefs vs. capacities: A post-metaphysical view of second tier skillfulness.

Hinweis der Redaktion

  1. Not about AQAL….or this is the foundation of AQAL; underlies; Makes philosphers of us all…Metaphysics is about what is real or what exists.
  2. These are some of the general questions in my mind that lead to the paperI’d like to engage you in some of them so we can think about this together…More about questions than answers or models; I will talk about questions vs models under themes of positive epistemic capability vs negative capability
  3. Beliefs define a communityWhat do we have to offer the wider world? Models? Skils/capacities? Methods; wayts; princilples?(offer the second tier world?)
  4. How we FRAME devel narratives…- realtionship TO beliefs (values)- PM is a perspective on belief and knowledge itself…
  5. We distinguish oursleves form prior memes…How important are some of these beliefs to you or others?How do we articulate what’s unsettling (or unjustified) about some beliefs? LATER: talk about mythical, magical and metaphysical thinkiing…its ROLE
  6. And why does it matter??
  7. Looking at epstemology; ways of thinking, capacities; not values/needs.
  8. Many ways we talk about it; all the models wilber mentions- stage based models…STRAW man spectrum!- not critique of existing narratives/projects; an exploration into where next
  9. Ref Kurt Fischer Skill Theory…
  10. Ref Stein on is/ought conflation; naturalistic fallacy; myth of the xxx
  11. puts humans at the forefront of the evolution of consciousness - deeply experience ..access to the motivation (ecstatic impulse) to break free of our egoic and narcissistic tendencies and align with a moral and spiritual sense of purpose and service - more than a surface belief system for its adherents—it is a lived experience that deeply implicates self identity
  12. puts humans at the forefront of the evolution of consciousness - deeply experience ..access to the motivation (ecstatic impulse) to break free of our egoic and narcissistic tendencies and align with a moral and spiritual sense of purpose and service - more than a surface belief system for its adherents—it is a lived experience that deeply implicates self identity
  13. not meant to be fair representations of the core content of the articles they are taken from, but are selected to illustrate a common theme - A story/narrative (vs. a theory/model)
  14. alludes to skills and capacities, but does not describe them sufficiently to allow them to be evaluated or directly supported - a model set of principles; a philosophy
  15. This is about the BOOK only- describes each meme in terms of response to life conditions (p. 56), concerns and priorities (p. 65), decision making style, education modes, family dynamics, community interactions, and life space structures (p. 332). - imply skill sets. -- missing a sufficient description of exactly what these ways of thinking are, as opposed to what they are like.- Asssesment: most/leat like me; about values and beliefs, not thinking skils
  16. can’t blame others for not having these skills or focus; point is to bring more of this in to what we do…- and there are informal non-research ways to orient to skills and capacities over belief systems- in workshops by Cohen, Beck, McIntosh skill building IS happening; but not explicitly…
  17. - I’m particularly interested in second tier skills (not only sequence of development but the FOCAL GOAL)-“look and feel” is it about skillful means or what is believed?- communication (including dialog, deliberation, and written communication), problem solving (including planning and design), decision-making, collaboration (including group dynamics), leadership (and parenting), and learning (including adaptation and self-improvement)
  18. So far, just argued for the different narratives; next argue for problems with beliefs and need for more skills-based; moving along that spectrum- If I had to choose between a Turquise belief system and skills set… “Mean Green Meme” is actually a cultural identity grouping that does not reflect green skill development Think of intelligent/evolved integral non-believers; are hey second tier?
  19. Wiping up the crowd; extreem states; - partial, always wrong-
  20. Its both- at second tier
  21. what do you think of as 'higher self' 'true/authentic self':is it 'higher and overseeing" rest of self; UNDERpinning/fundamental?; Encircling/embracing?
  22. reality is not out there waiting to be seen; not simply as it appears
  23. From Cooke; fact/value convolution
  24. Zone == how x what?Who, how, what enact each other (conascent)- Seean EH:Object’s [altitude & quadrivium] XSubject’s [>= devel level & quadrant]
  25. - In people & in philosophers…
  26. We do these things with a vengeance! We are wired to do this..help us accurately understand the world but can create biases and errors- we also have the opposite drives… (just like we have aggression and nurturance drives in us)See it in yourself. See it in great philosophers….Embodied mind -- Lakoff & Johnson, 1999; Clark 1996; Varela et al. 1993- abstract concepts (e.g. democracy, African-American, god, ego, compassion, spirit, evolution, formal operational thinking, left hand quadrant, green meme, or Eros)
  27. OK for Wilber! That certainty and precision creates a force; but WE don’t have to copy it…How can we bring both of these into play?- everybody is partially RIGHT; vs Everybody is (partly) wrong
  28. Reflective abstraction; subject/object; hierarchical complexity;
  29. --need seqqay to post-metaphisics