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Marijke Batenburg
Clinical Psychologist in private practice
Mindful Psychology
64 Valley Rd, Mt Eden
marijke@mindfulpsychology.co.nz
    Develop understanding and context for the relationship
     where one partner has Asperger Syndrome (including
     subclinical)
    Falling in love - attraction
    The change that happens
    Theory of Mind
    Effect of the relationship on each the Aspie and the NT
    Strategies to strengthen relationship

    Have left out
     ◦  DSM issues
     ◦  Differential diagnoses
     ◦  Recognise Gilberg’s Criteria
My father’s
                        passing



  My own
                                         Couple work
relationship




                                      Older
        Talking with
                                     Persons
         my cousin
                                     Service
Aloof                                Active but odd
   Classical                              HFA success
    Asocial                              Communication
   Echolalia                               Talk at you,
                                           pragmatic &
No ideas of play                             pedantic




                        Passive
                     Not so cut off
                   Quiet shy children
                     Receptive and
                   expressive language
Falling in Love with an Aspie
  The silent kind gentle handsome stranger
  Admiration of intellectual abilities
  Compassion for his/her limited social skills
  “Better looking than I would expect my partner to
   be”
  Belief his or her character was due to childhood
   circumstances and the person will change in a
   new relationship
  Shared interests (hobbies, animals, religion)
  The degree of adulation
  Fidelity in relationships
  ‘ I saw the heart not the behaviour.’
  Pillarof the community
  Child like quality, a ‘Peter Pan’
  Creative in his/her work and good career
   prospects
  Similar characteristics to a parent
   (learned the language and culture in
   childhood)
  A summary – Humour, confident about
   opinions, gallant, counterbalance, kind and
   gentle.
  Good   in social situations, network of
   friends
  Accepting and listening, good to talk to
  Good looking
  Executive secretary, well organised
  A physical quality such as hair – less
   concerned with physique or age or
   cultural differences
  Someone   who doesn’t want to change me
  Expressiveness and compassion
  Translator of the AS point of view
  A tutor in terms of what to do socially
  Women     with AS may prefer a relationship
   with a man with AS
  Extreme neuro-typicals more likely to fall
   in love with an Aspie
  Adults with High Functioning Autism less
   likely to seek a partner
  An initial extremely deep love for the partner
   with AS.
  In the early years of the relationship, not
   expecting the partner with AS to know what
   the person is thinking or needs.
  The extreme neuro-typical can imagine the AS
   perspective but the partner with AS can have
   great difficulty imagining the NT perspective.
  Indifference e.g. early attentions in courtship
   stage vanished
  Dominance of hobbies in time
  Resist being changed
  Reduction in social life
  Emergence of obsessive compulsive routines
  Less need for social relationship with partner
  Oppositional
  Major decisions made without consulting the
   partner
  Planning, organizing and executive secretary
  Not knowing what is emotionally important
   information for you
  Needing you at home and inhibiting your social
   life
  Low empathy
  Different conceptualization of marriage, love
  Love   is:Tolerance, non-judgemental, supportive.

  Love is: A complex set of beliefs that tap into
 our childhood languages and experiences; it is
 inspired when you meet someone that has a
 quality that maybe you admire, or do not have
 (admiration and respect) – or that they
 (someone you admire) reflects back to your ideal
 self – which is what you want to be or see
 yourself as.
  Love     is: Passion, acceptance, affection,
   reassurance, mutual enjoyment.
  Love is: What I feel for myself when I am with
   another person.
  Love   is: Helping and doing things for your
   lover.
  Love is: An attempt to connect to the other
   person’s feelings and emotions.
  Love is: Companionship, someone to depend
   on to help you in the right direction.
  Love is: I have no idea what is involved.
  Love is: Tolerance, loyal, allows ‘space’.
  Four  aspects of love: everybody, friends, family,
   erotica.
  Love cannot be observed.
  Love is yet to be felt and experienced by myself.
  What is Love? I don’t know the correct answer.
  Opening the door and letting a new world into
   your life, then building a new world that
   combines your world and their world.
  Someone that will try to understand the Aspie
   way and still be there in the morning.
  To frequently re-state the obvious or
   known is illogical.
  Overly attached or detached.
  Love expressed by a practical act, such as
   repairing the verandah or building a new
   wardrobe.
Don’t underestimate a person with ASD, try to understand
    My brain scan shows that some emotional circuits
     between the frontal cortex and the amygdala just
     aren’t hooked up- circuits that affect my emotions
     and are tied to my ability to feel love. I experience the
     emotion of love, but it’s not the same way that most
     neurotypical people do. Does this mean my love is
     less valuable than what other people feel?
  The  ability to recognise and understand
   thoughts, beliefs, desires and intentions of
   other people in order to make sense of
   their behaviour and predict what they are
   going to do next.
  ‘Mind blindness’ Simon Baron-Cohen
  Difficulties in reading messages in someone’s eyes
  Literal interpretations
  Considered rude and disrespectful
  Remarkable honesty
  Sense of paranoia
  Inability to see that another person may have the
   knowledge and desire to be of help
  Delay in devt in the art of persuasion,
   compromise and conflict resolution
  A longer time to process social information, due
   to using intelligence rather than intuition
  Physical and emotional exhaustion
  A different form of introspection and self
   consciousness
  Problems knowing when something will
   cause embarrassment
  Anxiety
So#	
  and	
  vulnerable	
  inside	
  
Prickles	
  to	
  protect	
  them	
  from	
  predators	
  
Happy	
  in	
  a	
  desert	
  
Can	
  withstand	
  long	
  periods	
  of	
  
rela=onship	
  ‘drought’	
  
Do	
  not	
  understand	
  that	
  roses	
  need	
  rose	
  
food	
  
Keep	
  a	
  distance	
  from	
  other	
  plants	
  to	
  
survive.	
  
A	
  cactus	
  in	
  full	
  bloom	
  is	
  magnificent	
  and	
  
very	
  difficult	
  for	
  a	
  rose	
  to	
  resist	
  
The	
  roots	
  must	
  not	
  be	
  allowed	
  to	
  dry	
  out	
  
Needs	
  to	
  be	
  in	
  a	
  rose	
  garden	
  to	
  connect	
  
with	
  other	
  roses	
  and	
  be	
  watered,	
  fed	
  and	
  
mulched.	
  
Need	
  in=mate	
  emo=onal	
  connec=on,	
  
communica=on	
  and	
  love	
  
Can	
  a	
  rose	
  survive	
  in	
  a	
  desert?	
  
  Fixes rather than empathizes
  Love and affection as an emotional restorative.
  Affection capacity (bucket or a cup).
  Aspie  is dominant in a household and
   their style is infectious
  Over time NT ‘Mirror’ the Aspie partners
   behaviour, life style and thinking to
   survive.
  ‘Ihave developed into the person necessary for
   him”
  “Take your self-confidence and energy”
  “The essential me had disappeared along the
   way”.
  “Not that something had died, but the greater
   tragedy is knowing that something that should,
   has never lived”
  Star trek – Spock examining an e.t.’Its life Jim
   but not as we know it.’ In AS it is love but not as
   we know it.
  May  also feel irritated and depressed.
  Feeling of being unable to meet his or her
   partner’s expectations in terms of social,
   emotional and intimacy expectations.
Unable to
  Express inner thoughts and feelings,
  Cope with change (attention switching),
  Conversation
  Household responsibilities from budgeting to
   taking care of the children.
1.    Recognition of the diagnosis.
2.    Motivation of both partners to
      change and learn.
3.    Communication – unique process
  Usuallya greater motivation from the
   extreme neurotypical.
  When motivated and having access to
   knowledge, the person with Asperger’s
   syndrome can change.
  Access to expertise in the diagnostic
   assessment of adults.
  The diagnostic criteria.
  Asperger Personality type.
  An  occasional escape.
  A mutual understanding of two different
   cultures and ways of thinking.
  Emotion management strategies.
  Guidance in social skills.
  Open and effective communication.
  Support  from other family members and
   one’s children.
  Having good friends (soul mate).
  Having an independent social life.
  Not to feel guilty about having an
   alternative social life.
If we look at AS through a different lens, we can reframe
 
some of these deficits as assets. Because an individual with
    AS is unfettered by the chains of social convention or
manners, he may be able to identify unique solutions that no
                       one else notices.
                        Teresa Bolick

       Thank   you for your kind attention
    Aston M (2001) The Other Half of Asperger Syndrome
    Aston M (2003) Aspergers in Love
    Aston M (2009) The Asperger Couple’s Workbook
    Attwood T (2007) The Complete guide to Asperger’s Syndrome
    Attwood S (2008) Making sense of Sex
    Gaus V (2011 )Living Well on the Spectrum
    Gaus V (2007 ) Cognitive Behavioural Therapy for Adult Asperger
     Syndrome
    Lawson W (2010) The Passionate Mind- How people with Autism
     learn
    Uhlenkamp J (2009) The Guide to Dating for Teenagers with
     Aspergers Syndrome
    www.jkp.com (Jessica Kingsley Publishers)
    www.aspiepartners.com
    www.wrongplanet.com
    www.tonyattwood.com
    www.faaas.org (Families of adults Affected with Asperger’s
     Syndrome
    www.aspires (Asperger Syndrome Partner & Individuals Resources
     Encouragement & Support)
    www.autismnz.org.nz
    http://royalsociety.tv/rsPlayer.aspx?presentationid=1007 Francesca
     Happe (Prof of Cog NeuroScience) When will we understand Autism
     Spectrum Disorders University College of London) Royal Society
     (UK) Rosalund Franklin Award
    Bentley K (2007) Alone Together – Making an Asperger Marriage Work
    Birch J (2009) Congratulations its Aspergers
    Hendrickx S and Newton K (2007) Asperger Syndrome A Love Story
    Hendrickx S (2008) Love Sex and Long Term Relationships What
     people with Aspergers really really really want
    Marshack K (2009) Life with a Partner or Spouse with Asperger
     Syndrome: Going Over the Edge? - Practical Steps to Saving You and
     Your Relationship – this is a life-changing book which explores the effects
     on mental health of living with a person who has AS and how to reclaim your
     sense of self. It also covers issues surrounding divorce and separation.
    Simone R (2009) 22 Things a Women Must Know if She Loves a Man
     with Aspergers
    Slater-Walker G & S (2002) An Asperger Marriage
    Stanford A (2003) Asperger Syndrome and Long Term Relationships
    Weston L (2010) Connecting With Your Asperger Partner –
     Negotiating the Maze of Intimacy
    Temple Grandin (2010)
    ? The social network (2010)
    My name is Khan (2010)
    Adam (2009)
    A Serious Man (2009)
    Mary and Max (2009)
    Mozart and the Whale (2005)
    A Beautiful Mind (2001)
    Pi (1998)
    Rainman (1988)
    Amadeus (1984)
    Shortland street – Dr Gabrielle Jacobs
    The Big Bang Theory

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Aspergers for psych confer..what if.pptx

  • 1. Marijke Batenburg Clinical Psychologist in private practice Mindful Psychology 64 Valley Rd, Mt Eden marijke@mindfulpsychology.co.nz
  • 2.   Develop understanding and context for the relationship where one partner has Asperger Syndrome (including subclinical)   Falling in love - attraction   The change that happens   Theory of Mind   Effect of the relationship on each the Aspie and the NT   Strategies to strengthen relationship   Have left out ◦  DSM issues ◦  Differential diagnoses ◦  Recognise Gilberg’s Criteria
  • 3. My father’s passing My own Couple work relationship Older Talking with Persons my cousin Service
  • 4. Aloof Active but odd Classical HFA success Asocial Communication Echolalia Talk at you, pragmatic & No ideas of play pedantic Passive Not so cut off Quiet shy children Receptive and expressive language
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  • 7. Falling in Love with an Aspie
  • 8.   The silent kind gentle handsome stranger   Admiration of intellectual abilities   Compassion for his/her limited social skills   “Better looking than I would expect my partner to be”   Belief his or her character was due to childhood circumstances and the person will change in a new relationship   Shared interests (hobbies, animals, religion)   The degree of adulation   Fidelity in relationships   ‘ I saw the heart not the behaviour.’
  • 9.   Pillarof the community   Child like quality, a ‘Peter Pan’   Creative in his/her work and good career prospects   Similar characteristics to a parent (learned the language and culture in childhood)   A summary – Humour, confident about opinions, gallant, counterbalance, kind and gentle.
  • 10.   Good in social situations, network of friends   Accepting and listening, good to talk to   Good looking   Executive secretary, well organised   A physical quality such as hair – less concerned with physique or age or cultural differences
  • 11.   Someone who doesn’t want to change me   Expressiveness and compassion   Translator of the AS point of view   A tutor in terms of what to do socially
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  • 13.   Women with AS may prefer a relationship with a man with AS   Extreme neuro-typicals more likely to fall in love with an Aspie   Adults with High Functioning Autism less likely to seek a partner
  • 14.   An initial extremely deep love for the partner with AS.   In the early years of the relationship, not expecting the partner with AS to know what the person is thinking or needs.   The extreme neuro-typical can imagine the AS perspective but the partner with AS can have great difficulty imagining the NT perspective.
  • 15.   Indifference e.g. early attentions in courtship stage vanished   Dominance of hobbies in time   Resist being changed   Reduction in social life   Emergence of obsessive compulsive routines   Less need for social relationship with partner
  • 16.   Oppositional   Major decisions made without consulting the partner   Planning, organizing and executive secretary   Not knowing what is emotionally important information for you   Needing you at home and inhibiting your social life   Low empathy   Different conceptualization of marriage, love
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  • 19.   Love is:Tolerance, non-judgemental, supportive.   Love is: A complex set of beliefs that tap into our childhood languages and experiences; it is inspired when you meet someone that has a quality that maybe you admire, or do not have (admiration and respect) – or that they (someone you admire) reflects back to your ideal self – which is what you want to be or see yourself as.
  • 20.   Love is: Passion, acceptance, affection, reassurance, mutual enjoyment.   Love is: What I feel for myself when I am with another person.
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  • 22.   Love is: Helping and doing things for your lover.   Love is: An attempt to connect to the other person’s feelings and emotions.   Love is: Companionship, someone to depend on to help you in the right direction.   Love is: I have no idea what is involved.   Love is: Tolerance, loyal, allows ‘space’.
  • 23.   Four aspects of love: everybody, friends, family, erotica.   Love cannot be observed.   Love is yet to be felt and experienced by myself.   What is Love? I don’t know the correct answer.   Opening the door and letting a new world into your life, then building a new world that combines your world and their world.   Someone that will try to understand the Aspie way and still be there in the morning.
  • 24.   To frequently re-state the obvious or known is illogical.   Overly attached or detached.   Love expressed by a practical act, such as repairing the verandah or building a new wardrobe.
  • 25. Don’t underestimate a person with ASD, try to understand
  • 26.   My brain scan shows that some emotional circuits between the frontal cortex and the amygdala just aren’t hooked up- circuits that affect my emotions and are tied to my ability to feel love. I experience the emotion of love, but it’s not the same way that most neurotypical people do. Does this mean my love is less valuable than what other people feel?
  • 27.   The ability to recognise and understand thoughts, beliefs, desires and intentions of other people in order to make sense of their behaviour and predict what they are going to do next.   ‘Mind blindness’ Simon Baron-Cohen
  • 28.   Difficulties in reading messages in someone’s eyes   Literal interpretations   Considered rude and disrespectful   Remarkable honesty   Sense of paranoia   Inability to see that another person may have the knowledge and desire to be of help   Delay in devt in the art of persuasion, compromise and conflict resolution   A longer time to process social information, due to using intelligence rather than intuition   Physical and emotional exhaustion
  • 29.   A different form of introspection and self consciousness   Problems knowing when something will cause embarrassment   Anxiety
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  • 31. So#  and  vulnerable  inside   Prickles  to  protect  them  from  predators   Happy  in  a  desert   Can  withstand  long  periods  of   rela=onship  ‘drought’   Do  not  understand  that  roses  need  rose   food   Keep  a  distance  from  other  plants  to   survive.   A  cactus  in  full  bloom  is  magnificent  and   very  difficult  for  a  rose  to  resist  
  • 32. The  roots  must  not  be  allowed  to  dry  out   Needs  to  be  in  a  rose  garden  to  connect   with  other  roses  and  be  watered,  fed  and   mulched.   Need  in=mate  emo=onal  connec=on,   communica=on  and  love   Can  a  rose  survive  in  a  desert?  
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  • 35.   Fixes rather than empathizes   Love and affection as an emotional restorative.   Affection capacity (bucket or a cup).
  • 36.   Aspie is dominant in a household and their style is infectious   Over time NT ‘Mirror’ the Aspie partners behaviour, life style and thinking to survive.
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  • 38.   ‘Ihave developed into the person necessary for him”   “Take your self-confidence and energy”   “The essential me had disappeared along the way”.   “Not that something had died, but the greater tragedy is knowing that something that should, has never lived”   Star trek – Spock examining an e.t.’Its life Jim but not as we know it.’ In AS it is love but not as we know it.
  • 39.   May also feel irritated and depressed.   Feeling of being unable to meet his or her partner’s expectations in terms of social, emotional and intimacy expectations. Unable to   Express inner thoughts and feelings,   Cope with change (attention switching),   Conversation   Household responsibilities from budgeting to taking care of the children.
  • 40. 1.  Recognition of the diagnosis. 2.  Motivation of both partners to change and learn. 3.  Communication – unique process
  • 41.   Usuallya greater motivation from the extreme neurotypical.   When motivated and having access to knowledge, the person with Asperger’s syndrome can change.
  • 42.   Access to expertise in the diagnostic assessment of adults.   The diagnostic criteria.   Asperger Personality type.
  • 43.   An occasional escape.   A mutual understanding of two different cultures and ways of thinking.   Emotion management strategies.   Guidance in social skills.   Open and effective communication.
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  • 46.   Support from other family members and one’s children.   Having good friends (soul mate).   Having an independent social life.   Not to feel guilty about having an alternative social life.
  • 47. If we look at AS through a different lens, we can reframe   some of these deficits as assets. Because an individual with AS is unfettered by the chains of social convention or manners, he may be able to identify unique solutions that no one else notices.   Teresa Bolick   Thank you for your kind attention
  • 48.   Aston M (2001) The Other Half of Asperger Syndrome   Aston M (2003) Aspergers in Love   Aston M (2009) The Asperger Couple’s Workbook   Attwood T (2007) The Complete guide to Asperger’s Syndrome   Attwood S (2008) Making sense of Sex   Gaus V (2011 )Living Well on the Spectrum   Gaus V (2007 ) Cognitive Behavioural Therapy for Adult Asperger Syndrome   Lawson W (2010) The Passionate Mind- How people with Autism learn   Uhlenkamp J (2009) The Guide to Dating for Teenagers with Aspergers Syndrome
  • 49.   www.jkp.com (Jessica Kingsley Publishers)   www.aspiepartners.com   www.wrongplanet.com   www.tonyattwood.com   www.faaas.org (Families of adults Affected with Asperger’s Syndrome   www.aspires (Asperger Syndrome Partner & Individuals Resources Encouragement & Support)   www.autismnz.org.nz   http://royalsociety.tv/rsPlayer.aspx?presentationid=1007 Francesca Happe (Prof of Cog NeuroScience) When will we understand Autism Spectrum Disorders University College of London) Royal Society (UK) Rosalund Franklin Award
  • 50.   Bentley K (2007) Alone Together – Making an Asperger Marriage Work   Birch J (2009) Congratulations its Aspergers   Hendrickx S and Newton K (2007) Asperger Syndrome A Love Story   Hendrickx S (2008) Love Sex and Long Term Relationships What people with Aspergers really really really want   Marshack K (2009) Life with a Partner or Spouse with Asperger Syndrome: Going Over the Edge? - Practical Steps to Saving You and Your Relationship – this is a life-changing book which explores the effects on mental health of living with a person who has AS and how to reclaim your sense of self. It also covers issues surrounding divorce and separation.   Simone R (2009) 22 Things a Women Must Know if She Loves a Man with Aspergers   Slater-Walker G & S (2002) An Asperger Marriage   Stanford A (2003) Asperger Syndrome and Long Term Relationships   Weston L (2010) Connecting With Your Asperger Partner – Negotiating the Maze of Intimacy
  • 51.   Temple Grandin (2010)   ? The social network (2010)   My name is Khan (2010)   Adam (2009)   A Serious Man (2009)   Mary and Max (2009)   Mozart and the Whale (2005)   A Beautiful Mind (2001)   Pi (1998)   Rainman (1988)   Amadeus (1984)   Shortland street – Dr Gabrielle Jacobs   The Big Bang Theory