A bit about me: difficult children, risk-taking and at-risk, CAMH Community Industry, Handsworth Alternative, University, Castle Vale. Life Research: 11 years: social, educational and public health research. 2 Nods Nod to intriguing boundaries between normality, madness and badness The other Nod? Lord George Gordon Byron (1788-1824) (Not Tanya!) A nod towards Jean Jacques Rousseau (1712-1778) Swiss born philosopher Said to have ‘invented childhood’ “ children should be children before being men”; “ A child has his own special needs as a being who exists in his own right”. A bit about this talk Title, intertwining of the mad and the bad… and a bit about the dangerous to know. Childhood lasts a long time, I shall stick more to the teenage years