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     Legal Profession:
Complaints & Reform
Introduction:
What would you like to complain about?
 Generally, there are four
    reasons you might
        complain:
The service you have received
(this may include the bill for
solicitors)

Breach of contract

Professional misconduct

Negligence
Complaint One:

                            Contractual

In instructing a solicitor you entering                Because a member of the public
                 a contract                             does not ordinarily instruct a
                                                          barrister, there is no
   Why is this so important?                           contract between the client and
 If you don’t pay... they can sue you for                        the lawyer.
                  them
                  But
You may also have the right to take action
  for breach of contract whether you are               Who should you complain to?
 the client, or are affected by the actions
               of the solicitor

   Griffiths v              White v
  Dawson (1993)           Jones (1995)
Negligence
            You have to prove that you were owed a duty of reasonable care and skill, that the
             duty has been breached and that you have suffered loss and damage as a result.



                                   Hall v Simon 2000

           Solicitors                                                  Barristers
                                                            Saif Ali v Sydney Mitchell
             Examples:
                                                            Co 1980
Missed time limits
Incorrect advice
Wrong drafting of documents
Inadequate service or bad advice
What’s wrong? What’s right?
 Are each of the following
 statements true or false?
  Bonus: Can you tell me what the false
            ones should say?

 You can only sue for breach of contract if
you signed the contract.

 The case which held that barristers are liable
for a bad job in court is Hall v Simon.

For negligence, the lawyer has to have done
something wrong.

 A barrister can be sued for breach of
contract

There are four ways to complain about
lawyers.
Starter:

  Lollipop Challenge
Cut up the squares, and reassemble them to create a four
                      by three grid!
What’s wrong? What’s right?
 Are each of the following
 statements true or false?
  Bonus: Can you tell me what the false
            ones should say?

 You can only sue for breach of contract if
you signed the contract.

 The case which held that barristers are liable
for a bad job in court is Hall v Simon.

For negligence, the lawyer has to have done
something wrong.

 A barrister can be sued for breach of
contract

There are four ways to complain about
lawyers.
“Service Given”
                           Legal Services Act 2007


            Student Task:
 Read the enclosed articles and answer
the following questions in as much detail
               as you can.

1. Who now oversees complaints about
   lawyers?
2. Who should you complain to first
   before going to the ombudsman?
3. What are the time limits on making a
   complaint?
4. What type of thing can you complain
   about?
5. What sort of thing can’t you complain
   to them about?
6. What are their powers?
Professional Misconduct
 For solicitors, this means a                   Firstly:
 breach of the ‘principles’...     What kind of thing do you think is
                                           covered by this?
 For barristers, this means a
breach of the code of conduct

                                               Secondly:
                                 Please note that you can follow these
                                 routes even if the lawyer is not yours



                                                  Thirdly:
                                  There is a different route depending
                                 on the type of lawyer you are (and you
                                          need to know both!)
Solicitors

1. Always start by      Refer to the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal
   complaining                   (Mix of lay and experienced solicitors)
   to....

2. Complete the
   form.. With        Take actions against the individual or firm (including
   evidence etc.                       shutting it down!)

3. You may never
   hear anything
   more!
                         Make payments if lost out due to dishonesty
Barristers
                                     Council of Inns of Court
1. Contact them                      Members including
   within 12 months                  barristers, judges and at least one
                                     lay member
2. Complete the
                                     Three or five members
   complaints form!

3. They assess
   it, and let you
   know what they
   think.

4. If necessary, will
   carry out a
   formal
   investigation
Representative Societies?




                                Thinking (AO2):
Why do you think that it was unfair that they used to be responsible for regulating
                                their members?
Problems:
Your Great Aunt Betty has died. You were told that she had left you her house, and have a letter
           which she sent to her solicitors saying this, but her will was not updated.
                                   Do you have an action?


 You were involved in a nasty car accident. You instructed your solicitor to take action, and they
   said that they would with a maximum fee of £2000. However, they have sent you a bill for
                                     £10,000 for work done.
                                   Do you have an action?


 You discover that the barrister who accepted instructions has no experience in this complicated
                area of the law and is unfamiliar with it. You have lost your case.
                                    Do you have an action?


Your solicitor has asked a barrister for advice on the possible submission of key evidence in your
 claim. The barrister concluded that it was not valid. You have lost the case, but discovered that
                                   the evidence was legally vaild.
                                   Do you have an action?
Legal Services Act 2007 & reform of the law



                                 Student Task
                          Answer the following questions using
                          the articles at the back of your pack.

                              What is meant by ‘Tesco law’?

                          What are the arguments for and against
                                 the changes to the law?
   Clementi Review                  Aim for three for each side




Legal Services Act 2007
So what’s happened?
   Legal Services               Legal                Alternative Business
      Board                   Ombudsman                   Structures

                           Created and overseen       Allows lawyers and non-
New, independent body      by the Office for Legal        lawyers to set up
    responsible for         Complaints and has          businesses together.
    overseeing the         come into effect from
                                                             ‘Tesco law’
regulation of lawyers in     6th October 2011
  England and Wales                                  Licence given out by BSB or
                              Investigates all       SRA, and recommended to
 Board of 8 members          complaints about              Lord Chancellor
most of whom are non             lawyers.
       lawyers.                                           Will replace Legal
                           Chairman & 6 members      Disciplinary Practices (LDP)
                            who are non-lawyers            (not in effect yet!)
Plenary:
You have eight minutes. Plan your response to
           the following question.
                    “Describe the process of complaining about a
                             barrister and solicitor [18]”
REMINDER:

    IS on Law Reform
    MUST be complete
     by Thursday 3rd
       May @ 4.10

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Complaints 2012

  • 1. G151 ELS Miss Hart Legal Profession: Complaints & Reform
  • 2. Introduction: What would you like to complain about? Generally, there are four reasons you might complain: The service you have received (this may include the bill for solicitors) Breach of contract Professional misconduct Negligence
  • 3. Complaint One: Contractual In instructing a solicitor you entering Because a member of the public a contract does not ordinarily instruct a barrister, there is no Why is this so important? contract between the client and If you don’t pay... they can sue you for the lawyer. them But You may also have the right to take action for breach of contract whether you are Who should you complain to? the client, or are affected by the actions of the solicitor Griffiths v White v Dawson (1993) Jones (1995)
  • 4. Negligence You have to prove that you were owed a duty of reasonable care and skill, that the duty has been breached and that you have suffered loss and damage as a result. Hall v Simon 2000 Solicitors Barristers Saif Ali v Sydney Mitchell Examples: Co 1980 Missed time limits Incorrect advice Wrong drafting of documents Inadequate service or bad advice
  • 5. What’s wrong? What’s right? Are each of the following statements true or false? Bonus: Can you tell me what the false ones should say?  You can only sue for breach of contract if you signed the contract.  The case which held that barristers are liable for a bad job in court is Hall v Simon. For negligence, the lawyer has to have done something wrong.  A barrister can be sued for breach of contract There are four ways to complain about lawyers.
  • 6. Starter: Lollipop Challenge Cut up the squares, and reassemble them to create a four by three grid!
  • 7. What’s wrong? What’s right? Are each of the following statements true or false? Bonus: Can you tell me what the false ones should say?  You can only sue for breach of contract if you signed the contract.  The case which held that barristers are liable for a bad job in court is Hall v Simon. For negligence, the lawyer has to have done something wrong.  A barrister can be sued for breach of contract There are four ways to complain about lawyers.
  • 8. “Service Given” Legal Services Act 2007 Student Task: Read the enclosed articles and answer the following questions in as much detail as you can. 1. Who now oversees complaints about lawyers? 2. Who should you complain to first before going to the ombudsman? 3. What are the time limits on making a complaint? 4. What type of thing can you complain about? 5. What sort of thing can’t you complain to them about? 6. What are their powers?
  • 9. Professional Misconduct For solicitors, this means a Firstly: breach of the ‘principles’... What kind of thing do you think is covered by this? For barristers, this means a breach of the code of conduct Secondly: Please note that you can follow these routes even if the lawyer is not yours Thirdly: There is a different route depending on the type of lawyer you are (and you need to know both!)
  • 10. Solicitors 1. Always start by Refer to the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal complaining (Mix of lay and experienced solicitors) to.... 2. Complete the form.. With Take actions against the individual or firm (including evidence etc. shutting it down!) 3. You may never hear anything more! Make payments if lost out due to dishonesty
  • 11. Barristers Council of Inns of Court 1. Contact them Members including within 12 months barristers, judges and at least one lay member 2. Complete the Three or five members complaints form! 3. They assess it, and let you know what they think. 4. If necessary, will carry out a formal investigation
  • 12. Representative Societies? Thinking (AO2): Why do you think that it was unfair that they used to be responsible for regulating their members?
  • 13. Problems: Your Great Aunt Betty has died. You were told that she had left you her house, and have a letter which she sent to her solicitors saying this, but her will was not updated. Do you have an action? You were involved in a nasty car accident. You instructed your solicitor to take action, and they said that they would with a maximum fee of £2000. However, they have sent you a bill for £10,000 for work done. Do you have an action? You discover that the barrister who accepted instructions has no experience in this complicated area of the law and is unfamiliar with it. You have lost your case. Do you have an action? Your solicitor has asked a barrister for advice on the possible submission of key evidence in your claim. The barrister concluded that it was not valid. You have lost the case, but discovered that the evidence was legally vaild. Do you have an action?
  • 14. Legal Services Act 2007 & reform of the law Student Task Answer the following questions using the articles at the back of your pack. What is meant by ‘Tesco law’? What are the arguments for and against the changes to the law? Clementi Review Aim for three for each side Legal Services Act 2007
  • 15. So what’s happened? Legal Services Legal Alternative Business Board Ombudsman Structures Created and overseen Allows lawyers and non- New, independent body by the Office for Legal lawyers to set up responsible for Complaints and has businesses together. overseeing the come into effect from ‘Tesco law’ regulation of lawyers in 6th October 2011 England and Wales Licence given out by BSB or Investigates all SRA, and recommended to Board of 8 members complaints about Lord Chancellor most of whom are non lawyers. lawyers. Will replace Legal Chairman & 6 members Disciplinary Practices (LDP) who are non-lawyers (not in effect yet!)
  • 16. Plenary: You have eight minutes. Plan your response to the following question. “Describe the process of complaining about a barrister and solicitor [18]”
  • 17. REMINDER: IS on Law Reform MUST be complete by Thursday 3rd May @ 4.10