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Robertson and BB

• Reflexivity
• Background of film
• Examine select scenes
Beautiful Boxer-
real name: Asanee Suwan
   “Nong Toom”
Underlying assumptions?
Tropes: 2 selves
Childhood-a. I was there
        b. I was confused at the onset (like a child)
        c. invert power relationship


ROBERTSON-REFLEXIVITY—
DEFINITION? 785
Definition 790

POSITIONALITY
Robertson s solution?
Revealing mirrors and their effects, both by
Ethnographer and others (you, me, not to
Mention those being studied)
Must be done in order to reflect
On how reflexivity and positionality
Shapes project at hand!
Do it yourself

      Find the reflexive moment in any
      Ethnographic study we ve read in your
      Reader!
Characters

• Ma, Pa, Tam
• Pi Bua, Pi Chart, Pi Moo
• Nat
National Geographic Interview
interviewnong toom
Cultural Context
•  Until the mid-19th century, kathoeys once held an
   honorable status in Thailand, as they were accepted
   in society with the religious belief that they had
   shamanic abilities.
•  However, contemporary Thai society currently does
   not honor kathoeys like before, as there is now some
   discrimination against them.
   –  Even after sex re-assignment surgery, they remain legally
      male on birth certificates, passports, and identification
      cards. They also cannot marry a male.



                            Allyn, 1991
Cultural Context (cont.)

•  Due to some
   discrimination, some
   kathoeys are not able to
   easily find jobs. Few find
   work in music, fashion,
   and the media. Some
   find work through
   performances, such as
   being in costume and
   dance cabarets for
   tourists.

            Taywaditep, Coleman, & Dumronggittigule, 1997
Cultural Context (cont.)
•  Other kathoeys have few other choices than sex work and
   hair dressing in order to financially support themselves (and
   often times, their families due to collectivistic beliefs).
•  Thailand has much less social stigma about sex workers as
   other societies do (e.g., Western societies).




            Taywaditep, Coleman, & Dumronggittigule, 1997
Identity in Thai Society

       •  Most kathoeys outwardly present themselves
          as female (make up, dresses, long hair, voice,
          gestures, personality), and tend to pursue
          female-related jobs. In addition, they possess a
          vocabulary that is culturally used by Thai
          females.

       •  Most kathoeys take hormones, often starting as
          early as 10-years-old. Many of them who can
          pay for cosmetic surgery do so, and a smaller
          number tend to have sex re-assignment
          surgery. Although, a large number of kathoeys
          prefer to retain their genitalia along with their
          breast surgery.



       Winter & Udomsak, 2002
Identity in Thai Society (cont.)
•  There are not many formal restrictions placed upon kathoeys
   freely expressing themselves. Most Thais are generally friendly
   toward kathoeys, as Thai culture involves being friendly
   toward any person.

•  Some complications that occur are due to kathoeys still
   having their gender as “male” on legal documents. Due to
   this, there may be problems with traveling (passports saying
   “male” when kathoeys identify and appear as female), and at
   many Thai schools they are required to dress like males and
   respond to their male name.



     Taywaditep, Coleman, & Dumronggittigule, 1997; Matzner, 2001
Do it yourself

      Find the reflexive moment in any
      Ethnographic study we ve read in your
      Reader!
Telegraph Avenue: A Novel Michael Chabon

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Bb robertson

  • 1. Robertson and BB • Reflexivity • Background of film • Examine select scenes
  • 2. Beautiful Boxer- real name: Asanee Suwan “Nong Toom”
  • 3. Underlying assumptions? Tropes: 2 selves Childhood-a. I was there b. I was confused at the onset (like a child) c. invert power relationship ROBERTSON-REFLEXIVITY— DEFINITION? 785
  • 5. Robertson s solution? Revealing mirrors and their effects, both by Ethnographer and others (you, me, not to Mention those being studied) Must be done in order to reflect On how reflexivity and positionality Shapes project at hand!
  • 6. Do it yourself Find the reflexive moment in any Ethnographic study we ve read in your Reader!
  • 7. Characters • Ma, Pa, Tam • Pi Bua, Pi Chart, Pi Moo • Nat
  • 10. Cultural Context •  Until the mid-19th century, kathoeys once held an honorable status in Thailand, as they were accepted in society with the religious belief that they had shamanic abilities. •  However, contemporary Thai society currently does not honor kathoeys like before, as there is now some discrimination against them. –  Even after sex re-assignment surgery, they remain legally male on birth certificates, passports, and identification cards. They also cannot marry a male. Allyn, 1991
  • 11. Cultural Context (cont.) •  Due to some discrimination, some kathoeys are not able to easily find jobs. Few find work in music, fashion, and the media. Some find work through performances, such as being in costume and dance cabarets for tourists. Taywaditep, Coleman, & Dumronggittigule, 1997
  • 12. Cultural Context (cont.) •  Other kathoeys have few other choices than sex work and hair dressing in order to financially support themselves (and often times, their families due to collectivistic beliefs). •  Thailand has much less social stigma about sex workers as other societies do (e.g., Western societies). Taywaditep, Coleman, & Dumronggittigule, 1997
  • 13. Identity in Thai Society •  Most kathoeys outwardly present themselves as female (make up, dresses, long hair, voice, gestures, personality), and tend to pursue female-related jobs. In addition, they possess a vocabulary that is culturally used by Thai females. •  Most kathoeys take hormones, often starting as early as 10-years-old. Many of them who can pay for cosmetic surgery do so, and a smaller number tend to have sex re-assignment surgery. Although, a large number of kathoeys prefer to retain their genitalia along with their breast surgery. Winter & Udomsak, 2002
  • 14. Identity in Thai Society (cont.) •  There are not many formal restrictions placed upon kathoeys freely expressing themselves. Most Thais are generally friendly toward kathoeys, as Thai culture involves being friendly toward any person. •  Some complications that occur are due to kathoeys still having their gender as “male” on legal documents. Due to this, there may be problems with traveling (passports saying “male” when kathoeys identify and appear as female), and at many Thai schools they are required to dress like males and respond to their male name. Taywaditep, Coleman, & Dumronggittigule, 1997; Matzner, 2001
  • 15. Do it yourself Find the reflexive moment in any Ethnographic study we ve read in your Reader!
  • 16. Telegraph Avenue: A Novel Michael Chabon

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