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“The Silenced Dialogue:
 Power and Pedagogy in
Educating Other People’s
       Children”
            • Summary and
              Response to Lisa
              Delpit’s article by
              Amanda Rochwick
From Other People’s Children:
  Cultural Conflict in the Classroom

• What must be done to
  help teachers and
  students better
  understand each other?
• How can we stop
  training teachers to
  expect less of certain
  children?
But first, a little about
     Ms. Lisa Delpit…
                                I went
                             to Harvard!



• holds the Benjamin E. Mays Chair of Urban
Educational Leadership at GSU
• questions the validity of popular teaching
strategies for African American students
• wants educators to recognize, acknowledge,
and value the cultural strengths that a child
brings to school
The “Silenced Dialogue” --
        What is it?

     Silence occurs when nonwhite
     teachers are “left out of the
     dialogue about how best to
     educate children of color” (23).

                    Illustrations of the silence:
                    • Native Alaskan quote
                    • Black educator quote
Where is the Dialogue
     Silenced?
           • Skills-oriented
             approach vs. process-
             oriented approach
           • Writing process
             advocates dismiss
             teachers of color as
             “too skills oriented”
             which leads to
             feelings of
             estrangement (23).
The Essential Questions:
     How can such complete
communication blocks exist when
  both parties truly believe they
      have the same aims?
  How can the bitterness and
 resentment expressed by the
educators of color be drained so
   that the sores can heal?
       What can be done?
Ms. Delpit’s thinking:
“The differing perspectives on the
debate over ‘skills’ versus ‘process’
approaches can lead to an
understanding of the alienation and
miscommunication, and thereby to
an understanding of the ‘silenced
dialogue’” (24).
The Culture of Power
Lisa Delpit claims that aspects of power have
created the schism between liberal educational
movements and that of non-white, non-middle-
class teachers and communities.
The Culture of Power
  There are Five aspects of Power:


1. Issues of power are enacted in
           classrooms.


 Ex. Power of teacher over students,
power of publishers of textbooks, etc.
The Culture of Power

   2. There are codes or rules for
participating in power; that is, there
       is a ‘culture of power.’”


Ex. Linguistic forms, communicative strategies --
       ways of talking, ways of writing, etc.
The Culture of Power
3. The rules of the culture of power
 are a reflection of the rules of the
 culture of those who have power.


Therefore, success in school is predicated upon
   acquisition of those who are in power.
The Culture of Power

4. If you are not already a participant in
     the culture of power, being told
    explicitly the rules of that culture
     makes acquiring power easier.


Think about going to a new place: Wouldn’t you like to
       be directly informed about the culture?
The Culture of Power

  5. Those with power are frequently
   least aware of -- or least willing to
  acknowledge -- its existence. Those
with less power are often most aware of
             its existence.
Statements from the Culture
        of Power
     Statement Made                    Differing Perspective
“I want the same thing for everyone     Parents outside of the culture of
else’s children as I want for mine”    power often want something else:
                                       “My kids know how to be black – you
                                       all teach them how to be successful in
                                              the white man’s world.”
 “Child-centered, whole language,      Teachers do students no service to
and process approached are needed          suggest that product is not
in order to allow a democratic state   important. They will be judged on
   of free, empowered adults, and         their product, regardless the
  because research has shown that                process, in life.
  children learn best through these
              methods”
Statements from the Culture
         of Power
     Statement Made                      Differing Perspectives
   “Children have the right to their       We must accept students but also
  own language, their own culture.         take responsibility to teach them.
  We must fight cultural hegemony        Tell students that their language and
and fight the system by insisting that         cultural style is unique and
    children be allowed to express            wonderful but that there is a
  themselves in their own language        political power game in America –
                 style”                  they have to access the power codes.
 “It’s really a shame that she seems     Different cultures address each other
  to be so authoritarian, so focused        in different styles. Take Shirley
  on skills and so teacher directed.         Brice Heath’s study, “What no
  Those poor kids never seem to be        bedtime story means” for example.
    allowed to really express their        We can’t judge one culture by the
              creativity”                           values of our own.
What we can learn:
• Teach the codes of       • Understand the need
  power so students can      for both “skills-
  participate in             oriented” and
  mainstream American        “process-oriented”
  life.                      approaches.
• Consult with adults      • Communicate across
  who share your             cultures, and listen to
  students culture to find   alternative points of
  the best ways to teach     view...
  them.
BUT...
   “To do so takes a special kind of
listening, listening that requires not
  only open eyes and ears, but open
 hearts and minds. We do not really
see through out eyes or hear through
  our ears, but through our beliefs”
                 (46).
Images for My Presentation:

  All images for this PowerPoint Presentation
     were found at the following websites:
         •Letters to the Next President
            •Voices from the Field
      •FIU’s Center for Urban Education
          •Meet the Commissioners
           •Other People’s Children
A Chart for EDIT 6150:
  90
  80
  70
  60
  50
  40                                 Effective for
  30                                 classroom
  20                                 Ease of Use
  10
   0
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                    Website
       Powerpoint
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Lisadelpit

  • 1. “The Silenced Dialogue: Power and Pedagogy in Educating Other People’s Children” • Summary and Response to Lisa Delpit’s article by Amanda Rochwick
  • 2. From Other People’s Children: Cultural Conflict in the Classroom • What must be done to help teachers and students better understand each other? • How can we stop training teachers to expect less of certain children?
  • 3. But first, a little about Ms. Lisa Delpit… I went to Harvard! • holds the Benjamin E. Mays Chair of Urban Educational Leadership at GSU • questions the validity of popular teaching strategies for African American students • wants educators to recognize, acknowledge, and value the cultural strengths that a child brings to school
  • 4. The “Silenced Dialogue” -- What is it? Silence occurs when nonwhite teachers are “left out of the dialogue about how best to educate children of color” (23). Illustrations of the silence: • Native Alaskan quote • Black educator quote
  • 5. Where is the Dialogue Silenced? • Skills-oriented approach vs. process- oriented approach • Writing process advocates dismiss teachers of color as “too skills oriented” which leads to feelings of estrangement (23).
  • 6. The Essential Questions: How can such complete communication blocks exist when both parties truly believe they have the same aims? How can the bitterness and resentment expressed by the educators of color be drained so that the sores can heal? What can be done?
  • 7. Ms. Delpit’s thinking: “The differing perspectives on the debate over ‘skills’ versus ‘process’ approaches can lead to an understanding of the alienation and miscommunication, and thereby to an understanding of the ‘silenced dialogue’” (24).
  • 8. The Culture of Power Lisa Delpit claims that aspects of power have created the schism between liberal educational movements and that of non-white, non-middle- class teachers and communities.
  • 9. The Culture of Power There are Five aspects of Power: 1. Issues of power are enacted in classrooms. Ex. Power of teacher over students, power of publishers of textbooks, etc.
  • 10. The Culture of Power 2. There are codes or rules for participating in power; that is, there is a ‘culture of power.’” Ex. Linguistic forms, communicative strategies -- ways of talking, ways of writing, etc.
  • 11. The Culture of Power 3. The rules of the culture of power are a reflection of the rules of the culture of those who have power. Therefore, success in school is predicated upon acquisition of those who are in power.
  • 12. The Culture of Power 4. If you are not already a participant in the culture of power, being told explicitly the rules of that culture makes acquiring power easier. Think about going to a new place: Wouldn’t you like to be directly informed about the culture?
  • 13. The Culture of Power 5. Those with power are frequently least aware of -- or least willing to acknowledge -- its existence. Those with less power are often most aware of its existence.
  • 14. Statements from the Culture of Power Statement Made Differing Perspective “I want the same thing for everyone Parents outside of the culture of else’s children as I want for mine” power often want something else: “My kids know how to be black – you all teach them how to be successful in the white man’s world.” “Child-centered, whole language, Teachers do students no service to and process approached are needed suggest that product is not in order to allow a democratic state important. They will be judged on of free, empowered adults, and their product, regardless the because research has shown that process, in life. children learn best through these methods”
  • 15. Statements from the Culture of Power Statement Made Differing Perspectives “Children have the right to their We must accept students but also own language, their own culture. take responsibility to teach them. We must fight cultural hegemony Tell students that their language and and fight the system by insisting that cultural style is unique and children be allowed to express wonderful but that there is a themselves in their own language political power game in America – style” they have to access the power codes. “It’s really a shame that she seems Different cultures address each other to be so authoritarian, so focused in different styles. Take Shirley on skills and so teacher directed. Brice Heath’s study, “What no Those poor kids never seem to be bedtime story means” for example. allowed to really express their We can’t judge one culture by the creativity” values of our own.
  • 16. What we can learn: • Teach the codes of • Understand the need power so students can for both “skills- participate in oriented” and mainstream American “process-oriented” life. approaches. • Consult with adults • Communicate across who share your cultures, and listen to students culture to find alternative points of the best ways to teach view... them.
  • 17. BUT... “To do so takes a special kind of listening, listening that requires not only open eyes and ears, but open hearts and minds. We do not really see through out eyes or hear through our ears, but through our beliefs” (46).
  • 18. Images for My Presentation: All images for this PowerPoint Presentation were found at the following websites: •Letters to the Next President •Voices from the Field •FIU’s Center for Urban Education •Meet the Commissioners •Other People’s Children
  • 19. A Chart for EDIT 6150: 90 80 70 60 50 40 Effective for 30 classroom 20 Ease of Use 10 0 Word Website Powerpoint
  • 20. PowerPoint Tip: To get the best black and white hardcopy from PowerPoint. From the “view” menu choose “black and white.” To alter the way any object will print, right- click on that object, and then choose the appropriate option, like “Black with White Fill.” Now, you don’t have to save two versions of a presentation (one for black and white and one for color).