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Life after HS:
Minarets Style
Everyone we know needs a career after HS.




Everyone we know isn’t
 so rich they can just
 “relax” for 60 years.
Have a
  Plan!



Education when
 you are young
  will pay off
20-30-40 years
   from now.
Three main paths (all include graduation)


Junior College                                UC
                       CSU
Career/                                       Elite Private
Vocational             Private College        College
School
                       ROTC                   Military
Basic military                                Academy


    All of these can lead to a 4 year degree or beyond
This plan assumes
you are not going to
graduate and then
just sit at home.
People doing that don’t need a “plan”.
Thoughts on the GED
     THIS IS A BIG DEAL
Getting the GED might sound easy—after all, it’s just a test—but the test is
supposed to reflect everything you learned in high school at the senior level.
Many people take numerous tries to pass, and some don’t pass at all. You’ll have
to demonstrate advanced knowledge of algebra, geometry and calculus, write an
essay, and pass history, science and critical reading sections. It’s not easy to
pass—and often the work you have to complete for a passing grade in high
school is easier. Don’t count on alternative ways to get a high school education if
you still have the opportunity to stay in school and graduate.

                 http://www.distance-education.org/Articles/Thinking-About-Dropping-
                              Out-of-High-School--Think-Again-242.html
Reasons to not drop out or take the GED

                      Employers have their pick of candidates
From
                      Many employers will screen you out entirely because you
                      have no degree—despite your experience. They’ll nearly
                      always take someone with a high school degree over
                      someone without, and often they’ll take someone with an
                      Associate’s before that—even if the job doesn’t
                      necessarily draw on skills you learn in high school or
                      college. More and more, an education is becoming
                      mandatory in our economy.



 http://www.distance-education.org/Articles/Thinking-About-Dropping-
              Out-of-High-School--Think-Again-242.html
Reasons to not drop out or take the GED

                           You’ll be competing against high school
                           and college grads all your life
  From
                           Life is a competition. You’ll be competing for jobs
                           your whole life, and your education is the only
                           thing that gives you an edge when you’re young
                           and don’t have much work experience. But even
                           when you’re older, you’ll be competing against
                           candidates who have degrees—for jobs, for
                           promotions and for raises. Don’t set yourself at a
                           disadvantage before you’ve even started a career.



 http://www.distance-education.org/Articles/Thinking-About-Dropping-
              Out-of-High-School--Think-Again-242.html
Reasons to not drop out or take the GED
                           Think school is tough now? Try going
                           back as an adult
From                       School isn’t always easy. But most teenagers don’t
                           have to support themselves while they go to school.
                           Once you’re out, you’ll have to get a job—and you’ll
                           have to juggle school around that. Don’t expect your
                           employer to be sympathetic if you have to schedule
                           shifts around classes or come in tired because you
                           were up late studying the night before. If you have
                           kids of your own, going back to school is even
                           harder. Some people who drop out with only months
                           to go before graduation take decades to earn their
                           degree again. Get it done early, while you don’t have
                           as many demands on your time.

 http://www.distance-education.org/Articles/Thinking-About-Dropping-
              Out-of-High-School--Think-Again-242.html
FINAL Thoughts on the GED
   THIS IS A BIG DEAL
In1971, male dropouts who worked full time earned an
average of $35,087.

In   2000, male dropout income shrank to $23,903.
It’s clear that our economy is changing—and an education is no
longer considered optional.
How do you get to college, military or vocational ed?


THE BASICS - STUFF YOU NEED
           1. Graduate HS - not GED
           2. GPA of 2.5 - 3.0 or better*
           3. Funding or scholarships



    *For UCs, elite colleges and military academies, you need a 4.0+ gpa. It’s very competitive.
THE BASICS - GET THE RIGHT START
                      Focus on the Positive
(-) Negative: Fs are a huge problem - you repeat the class and lose
electives (If you’re aiming to go straight to 4 year - you NEED C’s or
better in core classes)
(+) Positive: You are at a high tech, supportive school, do your part!
(-) Negative: Not having an “interest area”
(+) Positive: Compete and win AWARDS early, when you are a soph!
(-) Negative: You can’t begin when you are a Senior
(+) Positive: At Minarets, Freshman have access to rock the house
Funding Options 1:                                                                 Cheap stuff

 You have to have a car, apartment and
 a job either way. Don’t add those costs
 to your college planning.

 You’ll need a car and apartment no matter what.


 College can be as cheap as $1000/yr.


     For a little more money, add college and career skills that will pay off in the long run.
Funding Options 2:                                 Keeping college affordable



FAFSA + CALGRANTS = Free money
AH! The spectre of paying too much for a degree.
The goal = pay as you go, or pay just for room and board.

If you HAVE to get a loan, consider these options:
• Go to a JC first (save $24,000 to 60,000) get the same credits

FAFSA, Pell and Cal Grants can get you free money - if you sign up on time.
Funding Options 3:                                          Keeping college affordable


ASVAB + ROTC = Free college

• Get a good ASVAB score, join the military, or go in as ROTC and
college is free. In many cases, you’ll get a monthly check too.


              CAUTION: If going military, be a good negotiator. Get a
              career out of the deal and go to college before you serve
Funding Options 4:                           Use your work ethic and skills


Other cheap routes:

Maintain a 3.5 gpa and get accepted to the SCCCD Honors Program
3.5 or higher gpa means free JC and a guaranteed slot at a UC

Fresno State Smittcamp Honors College - 3.8 GPA = Free Ride to
Fresno State

Walk on in other “sports”, like band, or ag or media - they have
scholarships too!
What kind of school do I pick? (1)
                                              Tuition: $30,000 and up
  Everyone knows schools like these:

  USC, CAL, UC Davis, Stanford (big $)

  Some schools like Stanford will give a free ride if you’re low
  income - but you have to qualify academically.
What kind of school do I pick? (2)
                                          Tuition: $4000-‐6000 and up

  And these are great choices as well (and affordable)
  Fresno State, Cal Poly, Chico State

   Many times, a 3.0 gpa is acceptable.
What kind of school do I pick? (3)
                                                Tuition: $20,000 and up
  But small colleges provide great options too:
  Woodbury, Menlo, Whitworth, Cogswell, Azusa Pacific,
  Fresno Pacific

  Why pick a small private college?
  You will be “known”, you get better personalization,
  and better access to internships, which can be critical
  when starting a career.
What kind of school do I pick? (4)
                                                              Tuition: None
 Military Academies
 No cost to the student
 Excellent academics - The highest grades are required to enter
 Don’t be confused:
 You are signing up to go to war if necessary
 This is a 6-8 year commitment

                                      US Naval Academy
                         West Point                      US Air Force Academy
   Coast Guard Academy
Internships!

At whatever college you select, internships are CRITICAL.
Ask how they work and who gets them before you sign up.

Internships can be a GOLDEN key to entering the career you
choose.

MAKE SURE THE COLLEGE YOU SELECT HAS
INTERNSHIPS BEFORE YOU SIGN UP.
The cost of learning trades/skills

       More Choices           Lower Cost
     Trade / Art Schools     Junior College
             Art
            Music            Many Jr Colleges
         Contracting          have Two Year
             IT                 degrees in
         Mechanics              trade / art
           Beauty               disciplines

         Two years              Two years
         $15-25,000           $1,000- $2,000
What school should you pick and how do you get there?
NOTE: It will cost you $10,000 - $15,000 a year to live no matter what school or job you choose - this chart is about
DIRECT costs involved with going to school.


         College                                                         CSUs                                   UCs
                                      Jr College
         Career                                                     Private Colleges                  Elite Private Colleges
                                     Basic Military
          Paths                                                          ROTC                          Military Academies

        GPA Goal                        GPA 3.0                         GPA 3.0+                             GPA 4.0+
                                      Minarets                                                            Minarets Diploma
         Classes                                                     Minarets Diploma
                                      Diploma               (3 yrs math, 2 yrs Foreign Language)
                                                                                                 (4 yrs math, 3 yrs Foreign Language)
        Required                                                                                         Honors/AP classes
                                   ASVAB (military)

                                                                                                  Interest areas,
                                   Be plugged into an        Interest areas, competitions,
        Intangibles                                                                          dominating competitions,
                                      interest area                  awards, clubs
                                                                                           winning awards, starting clubs

                                                                   CSU $6-7k/year
                                                                                                           $20-30k/year
          Cost                     $600-$1000/year               Private $18- $30k/yr
                                                                                                       Mil Academy = Free
                                                                    ROTC -= Free
Life is LONG
                           School Years
                              27%
                                           Learn NOW

                                            Invest in yourself until
                                          your are about 25 years old,
                                            and the next 55+ years
The Rest of Your Life
       73%                                 will be far more rewarding



                        School Years      The Rest of Your Life
Don’t OVERPAY FOR COLLEGE!
 Be VERY VERY
   careful with
 student loans -
 they ARE NOT
  free money -
It’s like adding a
  $100k house
   payment to
  your life debt
There are a lot of questions to ask,
but it’s going to be an exciting
time in your life.
             Ask us if you have questions:

                  Claudia vanDenBerg
           Cvandenberg@mychawanakee.org
                     Mike Niehoff
            Mniehoff@mychawanakee.org
                      Jon Corippo
             Jcorippo@mychawanakee.org
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Life after HS: Minarets Style

  • 2. Everyone we know needs a career after HS. Everyone we know isn’t so rich they can just “relax” for 60 years.
  • 3. Have a Plan! Education when you are young will pay off 20-30-40 years from now.
  • 4. Three main paths (all include graduation) Junior College UC CSU Career/ Elite Private Vocational Private College College School ROTC Military Basic military Academy All of these can lead to a 4 year degree or beyond
  • 5. This plan assumes you are not going to graduate and then just sit at home. People doing that don’t need a “plan”.
  • 6. Thoughts on the GED THIS IS A BIG DEAL Getting the GED might sound easy—after all, it’s just a test—but the test is supposed to reflect everything you learned in high school at the senior level. Many people take numerous tries to pass, and some don’t pass at all. You’ll have to demonstrate advanced knowledge of algebra, geometry and calculus, write an essay, and pass history, science and critical reading sections. It’s not easy to pass—and often the work you have to complete for a passing grade in high school is easier. Don’t count on alternative ways to get a high school education if you still have the opportunity to stay in school and graduate. http://www.distance-education.org/Articles/Thinking-About-Dropping- Out-of-High-School--Think-Again-242.html
  • 7. Reasons to not drop out or take the GED Employers have their pick of candidates From Many employers will screen you out entirely because you have no degree—despite your experience. They’ll nearly always take someone with a high school degree over someone without, and often they’ll take someone with an Associate’s before that—even if the job doesn’t necessarily draw on skills you learn in high school or college. More and more, an education is becoming mandatory in our economy. http://www.distance-education.org/Articles/Thinking-About-Dropping- Out-of-High-School--Think-Again-242.html
  • 8. Reasons to not drop out or take the GED You’ll be competing against high school and college grads all your life From Life is a competition. You’ll be competing for jobs your whole life, and your education is the only thing that gives you an edge when you’re young and don’t have much work experience. But even when you’re older, you’ll be competing against candidates who have degrees—for jobs, for promotions and for raises. Don’t set yourself at a disadvantage before you’ve even started a career. http://www.distance-education.org/Articles/Thinking-About-Dropping- Out-of-High-School--Think-Again-242.html
  • 9. Reasons to not drop out or take the GED Think school is tough now? Try going back as an adult From School isn’t always easy. But most teenagers don’t have to support themselves while they go to school. Once you’re out, you’ll have to get a job—and you’ll have to juggle school around that. Don’t expect your employer to be sympathetic if you have to schedule shifts around classes or come in tired because you were up late studying the night before. If you have kids of your own, going back to school is even harder. Some people who drop out with only months to go before graduation take decades to earn their degree again. Get it done early, while you don’t have as many demands on your time. http://www.distance-education.org/Articles/Thinking-About-Dropping- Out-of-High-School--Think-Again-242.html
  • 10. FINAL Thoughts on the GED THIS IS A BIG DEAL In1971, male dropouts who worked full time earned an average of $35,087. In 2000, male dropout income shrank to $23,903. It’s clear that our economy is changing—and an education is no longer considered optional.
  • 11. How do you get to college, military or vocational ed? THE BASICS - STUFF YOU NEED 1. Graduate HS - not GED 2. GPA of 2.5 - 3.0 or better* 3. Funding or scholarships *For UCs, elite colleges and military academies, you need a 4.0+ gpa. It’s very competitive.
  • 12. THE BASICS - GET THE RIGHT START Focus on the Positive (-) Negative: Fs are a huge problem - you repeat the class and lose electives (If you’re aiming to go straight to 4 year - you NEED C’s or better in core classes) (+) Positive: You are at a high tech, supportive school, do your part! (-) Negative: Not having an “interest area” (+) Positive: Compete and win AWARDS early, when you are a soph! (-) Negative: You can’t begin when you are a Senior (+) Positive: At Minarets, Freshman have access to rock the house
  • 13. Funding Options 1: Cheap stuff You have to have a car, apartment and a job either way. Don’t add those costs to your college planning. You’ll need a car and apartment no matter what. College can be as cheap as $1000/yr. For a little more money, add college and career skills that will pay off in the long run.
  • 14. Funding Options 2: Keeping college affordable FAFSA + CALGRANTS = Free money AH! The spectre of paying too much for a degree. The goal = pay as you go, or pay just for room and board. If you HAVE to get a loan, consider these options: • Go to a JC first (save $24,000 to 60,000) get the same credits FAFSA, Pell and Cal Grants can get you free money - if you sign up on time.
  • 15. Funding Options 3: Keeping college affordable ASVAB + ROTC = Free college • Get a good ASVAB score, join the military, or go in as ROTC and college is free. In many cases, you’ll get a monthly check too. CAUTION: If going military, be a good negotiator. Get a career out of the deal and go to college before you serve
  • 16. Funding Options 4: Use your work ethic and skills Other cheap routes: Maintain a 3.5 gpa and get accepted to the SCCCD Honors Program 3.5 or higher gpa means free JC and a guaranteed slot at a UC Fresno State Smittcamp Honors College - 3.8 GPA = Free Ride to Fresno State Walk on in other “sports”, like band, or ag or media - they have scholarships too!
  • 17. What kind of school do I pick? (1) Tuition: $30,000 and up Everyone knows schools like these: USC, CAL, UC Davis, Stanford (big $) Some schools like Stanford will give a free ride if you’re low income - but you have to qualify academically.
  • 18. What kind of school do I pick? (2) Tuition: $4000-‐6000 and up And these are great choices as well (and affordable) Fresno State, Cal Poly, Chico State Many times, a 3.0 gpa is acceptable.
  • 19. What kind of school do I pick? (3) Tuition: $20,000 and up But small colleges provide great options too: Woodbury, Menlo, Whitworth, Cogswell, Azusa Pacific, Fresno Pacific Why pick a small private college? You will be “known”, you get better personalization, and better access to internships, which can be critical when starting a career.
  • 20. What kind of school do I pick? (4) Tuition: None Military Academies No cost to the student Excellent academics - The highest grades are required to enter Don’t be confused: You are signing up to go to war if necessary This is a 6-8 year commitment US Naval Academy West Point US Air Force Academy Coast Guard Academy
  • 21. Internships! At whatever college you select, internships are CRITICAL. Ask how they work and who gets them before you sign up. Internships can be a GOLDEN key to entering the career you choose. MAKE SURE THE COLLEGE YOU SELECT HAS INTERNSHIPS BEFORE YOU SIGN UP.
  • 22. The cost of learning trades/skills More Choices Lower Cost Trade / Art Schools Junior College Art Music Many Jr Colleges Contracting have Two Year IT degrees in Mechanics trade / art Beauty disciplines Two years Two years $15-25,000 $1,000- $2,000
  • 23. What school should you pick and how do you get there? NOTE: It will cost you $10,000 - $15,000 a year to live no matter what school or job you choose - this chart is about DIRECT costs involved with going to school. College CSUs UCs Jr College Career Private Colleges Elite Private Colleges Basic Military Paths ROTC Military Academies GPA Goal GPA 3.0 GPA 3.0+ GPA 4.0+ Minarets Minarets Diploma Classes Minarets Diploma Diploma (3 yrs math, 2 yrs Foreign Language) (4 yrs math, 3 yrs Foreign Language) Required Honors/AP classes ASVAB (military) Interest areas, Be plugged into an Interest areas, competitions, Intangibles dominating competitions, interest area awards, clubs winning awards, starting clubs CSU $6-7k/year $20-30k/year Cost $600-$1000/year Private $18- $30k/yr Mil Academy = Free ROTC -= Free
  • 24. Life is LONG School Years 27% Learn NOW Invest in yourself until your are about 25 years old, and the next 55+ years The Rest of Your Life 73% will be far more rewarding School Years The Rest of Your Life
  • 25. Don’t OVERPAY FOR COLLEGE! Be VERY VERY careful with student loans - they ARE NOT free money - It’s like adding a $100k house payment to your life debt
  • 26. There are a lot of questions to ask, but it’s going to be an exciting time in your life. Ask us if you have questions: Claudia vanDenBerg Cvandenberg@mychawanakee.org Mike Niehoff Mniehoff@mychawanakee.org Jon Corippo Jcorippo@mychawanakee.org