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Working with Whistleblowers
Tim Reddick, Managing Director, Desert Thunder Investigations
Tim Reddick, CPP, PCI, CFE
25+ years of investigative experience
Extensive education background including
Masters in Criminology and FBI National
Academy
Certified Fraud Examiner of the Year, 2011
ASIS International Professional Certification
Board International Award of Excellence,
2007
ASIS International Investigations Council
Member
Life Member, International Association of
Chief of Police
Overview
• Definitions
• Why are Whistleblowers Important?
• Policy
• Finding and Vetting
• Handling Issues
• Protecting Whistleblowers/sources
• Incentives
Definitions
• Whistleblower
– Numerous laws and definitions
– Expansion under Lawson v FMR LLC
– Dept of Homeland Security v. MacLean
• Cooperating Witness
• Confidential Informant
Initial Detection of Occupational Frauds
2014 Report to the Nations on Occupational Fraud and Abuse. Copyright 2014 by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
Median Loss and Median Duration
by Detection Method
2014 Report to the Nations on Occupational Fraud and Abuse. Copyright 2014 by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
Impact of Hotlines
2014 Report to the Nations on Occupational Fraud and Abuse. Copyright 2014 by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
Frequency of Anti-Fraud Controls
2014 Report to the Nations on Occupational Fraud and Abuse. Copyright 2014 by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
Detection Method by Size of Victim
Organization
2014 Report to the Nations on Occupational Fraud and Abuse. Copyright 2014 by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
Frequency of Anti-Fraud Controls
by Size of Victim Organization
2014 Report to the Nations on Occupational Fraud and Abuse. Copyright 2014 by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
Quote
“If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.”
Benjamin Franklin
Policy
• Fully vetted PRIOR to needed
• Include How to document
– Maintain Whistleblower protections
– CI credibility
• Know and Follow Policy
• Fully Document Exceptions
• Include Legal issues in policy (criminal activity of WB/CI,
false info from CI, etc.)
Policy Issues
• Other policies that may apply (FBI FCPA Example-not
recording all conversations between CI and defendant)
• Other Agency, no policy on working with CI’s,
Whistleblowers or recording of conversations but
comprehensive policy on what you can or can’t wear on
casual Fridays
• Note on recording (Controversial, Legal Issues, Include
in Policy)
Finding WB/CI/CW
• Encouraging Reporting
– Cultural obstacles
• Hotlines
– 24 hour access
– Live operator
– Follow-up Mechanism
• Who could be a WB/CI/CW?
Source of Tips
2014 Report to the Nations on Occupational Fraud and Abuse. Copyright 2014 by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
Others to Consider
“Any person an investigator comes into contact with during the course of an
examination is a potential informant”*
 Administrative Assistants
 Bookkeepers
 Ex-spouses, Ex-girlfriends/boyfriends
 Doorman
 Mail carriers
 Janitors
 Security Guards
 Servers
 Merchants
*Informants & Whistleblowers, The good, the bad and the ugly. Martin T.
Biegelman, CFE, ACFE Fellow, CCEP, Fraud Magazine, March/April 2014
Vetting and Assessment
• Background
• Previous experience
• In a position to know or have access?
• Expertise
• Motivations
Common Motivations
 Doing what is right
 Honest Person
 Repentance
 Elimination of Competition
 Money or reward
 Police/Investigation Buffs
 Trust Relationship with
Investigator
 Eccentrics
 Revenge
 Jealousy
 Fear of Jail
 Resolution of Criminal Charge
 Working off a case
 Good Citizenship
 Ordinary Citizen
 Doing civic duty
Handling Issues
• Whistleblower complaints
– “Procedurally Fair”
• Whistleblower retaliation (and Trends)
• Communications between Investigator and
WB/CI
• Independent Verification
Independent Verification
Use independent sources of
information
Complete honesty
Look for intentional withholding of
information
Primary purpose is to assess
truthfulness and reliability
Handling Issues (Cont’d)
• Criminal involvement or misconduct by WB/CI
• Pitfalls
Some Pitfalls
 Making promises you can’t keep
 Lying to the WB/CI
 Allowing WB/CI to do illegal acts
 Not maintaining professional
relationship
 Personal entanglements with
WB/CI
 Everything you say is subject to
Review
 Document, Document, Document
 Loss of Objectivity
 WB/CI’s may say anything
 Failure to test information
 Not delineating specific CI latitude
(what they can and can’t do)
 Continuing to use an unreliable
WB/CI
 Allowing WB/CI to control
investigation
 Disclosing other cases or witnesses
What Makes a Story?
PEOPLE
ACTIVITIES
OBJECTS
LOCATIONS
TIME
Protecting Sources
Protecting Sources
• Can they remain anonymous?
• Team discussions and outside agencies
• During investigation and interviews
• Methods of communication
• Tasking and collecting information
• Reports
• Follow-on legal proceedings
Copyright 2003 Kevin Duffy (www.kenvinduffy.net). Used with permission.
Incentives
Should companies offer incentives?
Incentives
“Having a hotline, having fraud training for employees and, to some
extent, having rewards for whistleblowers, are critical aspects of an
anti-fraud program.”
- John Warren, J.D., CFE, ACFE Vice President and General Counsel
•Payments to WB/CI’s
– 26% reduction in median loss and
– 33% reduction in median duration
•Qui Tam incentives
Frequency of Anti-Fraud
Controls
2014 Report to the Nations on Occupational Fraud and Abuse. Copyright 2014 by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
Questions?
Thank-you for participating
If you have any questions, please feel free
to contact:
Tim Reddick, CPP, PCI, CFE
Managing Director, Desert Thunder Investigations
Phone: 602-341-5121 dti@usa.net
Joe Gerard, Vice President Marketing and Sales
j.gerard@i-sight.com

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Working with Whistleblowers

  • 1. Working with Whistleblowers Tim Reddick, Managing Director, Desert Thunder Investigations
  • 2. Tim Reddick, CPP, PCI, CFE 25+ years of investigative experience Extensive education background including Masters in Criminology and FBI National Academy Certified Fraud Examiner of the Year, 2011 ASIS International Professional Certification Board International Award of Excellence, 2007 ASIS International Investigations Council Member Life Member, International Association of Chief of Police
  • 3. Overview • Definitions • Why are Whistleblowers Important? • Policy • Finding and Vetting • Handling Issues • Protecting Whistleblowers/sources • Incentives
  • 4. Definitions • Whistleblower – Numerous laws and definitions – Expansion under Lawson v FMR LLC – Dept of Homeland Security v. MacLean • Cooperating Witness • Confidential Informant
  • 5. Initial Detection of Occupational Frauds 2014 Report to the Nations on Occupational Fraud and Abuse. Copyright 2014 by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
  • 6. Median Loss and Median Duration by Detection Method 2014 Report to the Nations on Occupational Fraud and Abuse. Copyright 2014 by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
  • 7. Impact of Hotlines 2014 Report to the Nations on Occupational Fraud and Abuse. Copyright 2014 by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
  • 8. Frequency of Anti-Fraud Controls 2014 Report to the Nations on Occupational Fraud and Abuse. Copyright 2014 by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
  • 9. Detection Method by Size of Victim Organization 2014 Report to the Nations on Occupational Fraud and Abuse. Copyright 2014 by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
  • 10. Frequency of Anti-Fraud Controls by Size of Victim Organization 2014 Report to the Nations on Occupational Fraud and Abuse. Copyright 2014 by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
  • 11. Quote “If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.” Benjamin Franklin
  • 12. Policy • Fully vetted PRIOR to needed • Include How to document – Maintain Whistleblower protections – CI credibility • Know and Follow Policy • Fully Document Exceptions • Include Legal issues in policy (criminal activity of WB/CI, false info from CI, etc.)
  • 13. Policy Issues • Other policies that may apply (FBI FCPA Example-not recording all conversations between CI and defendant) • Other Agency, no policy on working with CI’s, Whistleblowers or recording of conversations but comprehensive policy on what you can or can’t wear on casual Fridays • Note on recording (Controversial, Legal Issues, Include in Policy)
  • 14. Finding WB/CI/CW • Encouraging Reporting – Cultural obstacles • Hotlines – 24 hour access – Live operator – Follow-up Mechanism • Who could be a WB/CI/CW?
  • 15. Source of Tips 2014 Report to the Nations on Occupational Fraud and Abuse. Copyright 2014 by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
  • 16. Others to Consider “Any person an investigator comes into contact with during the course of an examination is a potential informant”*  Administrative Assistants  Bookkeepers  Ex-spouses, Ex-girlfriends/boyfriends  Doorman  Mail carriers  Janitors  Security Guards  Servers  Merchants *Informants & Whistleblowers, The good, the bad and the ugly. Martin T. Biegelman, CFE, ACFE Fellow, CCEP, Fraud Magazine, March/April 2014
  • 17. Vetting and Assessment • Background • Previous experience • In a position to know or have access? • Expertise • Motivations
  • 18. Common Motivations  Doing what is right  Honest Person  Repentance  Elimination of Competition  Money or reward  Police/Investigation Buffs  Trust Relationship with Investigator  Eccentrics  Revenge  Jealousy  Fear of Jail  Resolution of Criminal Charge  Working off a case  Good Citizenship  Ordinary Citizen  Doing civic duty
  • 19. Handling Issues • Whistleblower complaints – “Procedurally Fair” • Whistleblower retaliation (and Trends) • Communications between Investigator and WB/CI • Independent Verification
  • 20. Independent Verification Use independent sources of information Complete honesty Look for intentional withholding of information Primary purpose is to assess truthfulness and reliability
  • 21. Handling Issues (Cont’d) • Criminal involvement or misconduct by WB/CI • Pitfalls
  • 22. Some Pitfalls  Making promises you can’t keep  Lying to the WB/CI  Allowing WB/CI to do illegal acts  Not maintaining professional relationship  Personal entanglements with WB/CI  Everything you say is subject to Review  Document, Document, Document  Loss of Objectivity  WB/CI’s may say anything  Failure to test information  Not delineating specific CI latitude (what they can and can’t do)  Continuing to use an unreliable WB/CI  Allowing WB/CI to control investigation  Disclosing other cases or witnesses
  • 23. What Makes a Story? PEOPLE ACTIVITIES OBJECTS LOCATIONS TIME
  • 25. Protecting Sources • Can they remain anonymous? • Team discussions and outside agencies • During investigation and interviews • Methods of communication • Tasking and collecting information • Reports • Follow-on legal proceedings
  • 26. Copyright 2003 Kevin Duffy (www.kenvinduffy.net). Used with permission.
  • 28. Incentives “Having a hotline, having fraud training for employees and, to some extent, having rewards for whistleblowers, are critical aspects of an anti-fraud program.” - John Warren, J.D., CFE, ACFE Vice President and General Counsel •Payments to WB/CI’s – 26% reduction in median loss and – 33% reduction in median duration •Qui Tam incentives
  • 29. Frequency of Anti-Fraud Controls 2014 Report to the Nations on Occupational Fraud and Abuse. Copyright 2014 by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, Inc.
  • 31. Thank-you for participating If you have any questions, please feel free to contact: Tim Reddick, CPP, PCI, CFE Managing Director, Desert Thunder Investigations Phone: 602-341-5121 dti@usa.net Joe Gerard, Vice President Marketing and Sales j.gerard@i-sight.com