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Detecting Deception: Investigation Interviewing Skills




                       Don Rabon
            Expert Investigator, Author, Instructor
                     dwrabon@msn.com
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                   Don Rabon
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                   Don Rabon, CFE, author, speaker, instructor and former investigative
                   director, has more than 34 years of experience conducting training in
                   interviewing techniques, detecting deception and investigative disclosure
                   analysis. Rabon is the author of many books, including Interviewing and
                   Interrogation 2nd Edition and Fraud Related Interviewing. Rabon is
                   retired from the North Carolina Justice Academy, North Carolina
                   Department of Justice, where he served as Deputy Director.


                  Joe Gerard

                  Joe Gerard is the VP of Sales & Marketing at i-Sight, a leading provider
                  of web-based case management software for corporate investigations.
                  He’s worked with companies like Dell, Coke, Allstate, BP and more than
                  100 others to implement improved investigative processes that leverage
                  best practices and case management.
Deception


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Deception has been with us for a good
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Is This Person Telling Me The Truth?

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Professionally, why is it important for you to
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    What are the consequences if you do not
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  The template for detecting deception
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A Definition of Deception

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    - Intentional
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    - Another
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          Learned behavior
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     Learned at a very early age
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            18 to 36 months
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The Key to Unlocking the Door to Deception

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             Noting changes in behavior
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Exploring the topic on the table when the
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Detecting Deception

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The Role of Anxiety in Detecting Deception
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    “Distress or uneasiness of mind caused by
           fear of danger or misfortune”
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Salient Deception Clues
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    - Use of the second person, pronouns
    - Refers to past events less often – historical present
    - Shorter message duration
    - Adaptors – internal, self and object;
        -     Hand gestures
        -     Speech errors
        -     Response latency will increase
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             If you have any questions, please submit them now.



           Thank you for taking the time to attend today’s webinar.



    If you have any questions about the information covered in the webinar,
                                please contact:

                       Joe Gerard              Don Rabon
                  jgerard@i-sight.com      dwrabon@msn.com

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Webinar: Detecting Deception - Investigation Interviewing Skills

  • 1. Detecting Deception: Investigation Interviewing Skills Don Rabon Expert Investigator, Author, Instructor dwrabon@msn.com
  • 2. Click to edit Master title style Introduction • Click to edit Master text styles Don Rabon - fdsfds Don Rabon, CFE, author, speaker, instructor and former investigative director, has more than 34 years of experience conducting training in interviewing techniques, detecting deception and investigative disclosure analysis. Rabon is the author of many books, including Interviewing and Interrogation 2nd Edition and Fraud Related Interviewing. Rabon is retired from the North Carolina Justice Academy, North Carolina Department of Justice, where he served as Deputy Director. Joe Gerard Joe Gerard is the VP of Sales & Marketing at i-Sight, a leading provider of web-based case management software for corporate investigations. He’s worked with companies like Dell, Coke, Allstate, BP and more than 100 others to implement improved investigative processes that leverage best practices and case management.
  • 3. Deception Deception is most certainly with us
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  • 17. Click to edit Master title style Is This Person Telling Me The Truth? • Click to edit Master text styles - fdsfds
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  • 19. Ask Yourself: Master title style Click to edit • Click to edit Master text styles - fdsfds Professionally, why is it important for you to know if someone is telling you the truth?
  • 20. Click to edit Master title style Ask Yourself: • Click to edit Master text styles - fdsfds What are the consequences if you do not accurately make the truth/deception assessment?
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  • 23. Click to Deception Detecting edit Master title style • Click to edit Master text styles Detecting deception as it relates to the - fdsfds interviewing process – putting it into perspective
  • 24. Detecting Deception The template for detecting deception
  • 25. Click to edit Master title style A Definition of Deception • Click to edit Master text styles - One person - fdsfds - Intentional - Mislead - Another - Deliberately - No prior notification - Not asked to do so
  • 26. Deception Is… Learned behavior
  • 27. Deception Is… Learned at a very early age
  • 28. Deception Is… 18 to 36 months
  • 29. Click to edit Master title style The Key to Unlocking the Door to Deception • Click to edit Master text styles - fdsfds Noting changes in behavior and . . . . . . .
  • 30. Click to Deception Detecting edit Master title style • Click to edit Master text styles - fdsfds Exploring the topic on the table when the change occurred with our additional questions
  • 31. Click to edit Master title style Detecting Deception • Click to edit Master text styles - fdsfds The Deception Template
  • 32. Deception edit Master title style Click to 01.Click to edit Master text styles • Concealment 02. - fdsfds - Easy to do
  • 33. Deception edit Master title style Click to • 01.Click to edit Master text styles Concealment 02. - fdsfds - Easy to do - Passive
  • 34. Deception edit Master title style Click to 01. Concealmentstyles • Click to edit Master text 02. - fdsfds - Easy to do - Passive - A B __ D
  • 35. Click to edit Master title style Poll • Click to edit Master text styles - fdsfds Poll Question #3
  • 36. Deception edit Master title style Click to • 01.Click to edit Master text styles Concealment 02. - fdsfds - Easy to do - Passive - A B __ D - Most often missed by experienced interviewers
  • 37. Deception edit Master title style Click to Concealment text styles • Click to edit Master Falsifying - fdsfds
  • 38. Click to edit Master title style Deception • Concealment text styles Click to edit Master Falsifying - fdsfds - Passive - More difficult form - Active
  • 39. Deception edit Master title style Click to Concealment text styles • Click to edit Master Falsifying - fdsfds - More difficult form - Active - “Do” something
  • 40. Click to edit Master title style Deception • Concealment text styles Click to edit Master Falsifying - fdsfds - More difficult form - Active - “Do” something LIE !
  • 41. Click to edit Master title style Deception Concealment text styles • Click to edit Master Falsifying - fdsfds - Two errors: - Deception clues (symptoms) - Mistake (reveals truth)
  • 42. Click to edit Master title style Deception Concealment text styles • Click to edit Master Falsifying - fdsfds Probing Questions - - > -Two errors: -Deception clues (symptoms) -Mistake (reveals truth)
  • 43. Deception edit Master title style Click to Concealment text styles • Click to edit Master Falsifying - fdsfds Probing Questions - - > - Two errors: Path of Distortion - Deception clues 3 Options for the (symptoms) deceiver - Mistake (reveals truth)
  • 44. Deception edit Master title style Click to Concealment text styles • Click to edit Master Falsifying - fdsfds Probing Questions - - > - Two errors: Path of Distortion - Deception clues Maximize (symptoms) - Mistake (reveals truth)
  • 45. Deception edit Master title style Click to Concealment text styles • Click to edit Master Falsifying - fdsfds Probing Questions - - > - Two errors: Path of Distortion - Deception clues Maximize (symptoms) Minimize - Mistake (reveals truth)
  • 46. Deception edit Master title style Click to Concealment text styles • Click to edit Master Falsifying - fdsfds Probing Questions - - > - Two errors: Path of Distortion - Deception clues Maximize (symptoms) Minimize - Mistake Equivocate (reveals truth)
  • 47. Click to edit Master title style Equivocate - •Dialogic –Master text styles Click to edit from a question – closed question – “do, - fdsfds is, are, did” - Answer does not relate to the question - It is intentional that the answer does not relate to the question
  • 48. Click to Deception Detecting edit Master title style • Click to edit Master text styles - fdsfds The Role of Anxiety in Detecting Deception
  • 49. Key: The Concept of Anxiety style Click to edit Master title • Click to edit Master text styles - fdsfds “Distress or uneasiness of mind caused by fear of danger or misfortune”
  • 50. Click to edit Master title style Anxiety Continuum • Click to edit Master text styles - fdsfds Concealment Falsification 100 Distortion Path 0
  • 51. Click to edit Master title style Salient Deception Clues Individual is: • Click to edit Master text styles - - Less certain – use of modifiers; fdsfds - Fewer factual statements - Mention their own experience less often - Passive voice - Use of the second person, pronouns - Refers to past events less often – historical present - Shorter message duration - Adaptors – internal, self and object; - Hand gestures - Speech errors - Response latency will increase
  • 52. Click to edit Master title style Response Latency Question . . . .textAnswer • Click to edit Master . styles - fdsfds Question . . . . . Answer Question . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Answer Silence Vocal Verbal
  • 53. Mistake Reveals the truth
  • 54. Click to edit Master title style Questions • Click to edit Master text styles - fdsfds If you have any questions, please submit them now. Thank you for taking the time to attend today’s webinar. If you have any questions about the information covered in the webinar, please contact: Joe Gerard Don Rabon jgerard@i-sight.com dwrabon@msn.com

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