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Managing Abusive Online
Community Members

(or “The Mean Things People
Say to Moderators”)
PATRICK O’KEEFE
ENTREPRENEUR

ONLINE COMMUNITY

BOOKS

PUBLIC SPEAKER

Founder and owner, iFroggy Network,
responsible for everything you see.

“Managing Online Forums” and
“Monetizing Online Forums.”

CONNECT WITH ME
Twitter: @patrickokeefe
Facebook: /patrickokeefe
Google+: +patrickokeefe

Over 13 years of hands on community
management experience, leading
communities like KarateForums.com.

CNN, Dell, FedEx, SXSW Interactive,
Northwestern and more.

Blog: ManagingCommunities.com
Email: patrick@ifroggy.com
SlideShare: /iFroggy
The quotes in these
slides are real and, at times,
real frightening.

They are excerpted, for
length and for sanity.
Any typos present are
the fault of the nice
people who
wrote these
comments.

Viewer discretion is advised.
"This is ridiculous. You over-moderate this forum to no

I didn't realize
it was under Nazi control.
end. It's a f*cking sports forum...

And by the way, take yourself off "Statistics". Yes, you
have like a freakin million posts, but you also spend all
your time posting on every topic that exists on
this site and STILL nobody gives a

sh*t about what you have to say.
You're the moderator, not God.

Drop the power trip and
spend a little time trying to
get laid. Do*chebag."
HITLER
STALIN
GESTAPO
“As an online discussion grows
longer, the probability of a
comparison involving Nazis or
Hitler approaches one.”
- Godwin’s Law
“Still the almighty forum
nazi huh Patrick?
You're such a pompous jacka**.”
“You know,

Hitler would
be proud
of the way you run your boards.”
How Did We Get Here?
“I've had it up to here (indicates
eyebrow height) with Patrick's
pathetic modding of this, his forum.
... now that I've decided to leave, it's
finally safe to express my opinion of the
nazi in charge.

You're a spineless f*ck, Patrick
with your insipid tv pc McMorality,
get a life. I only wish you lived closer
so I could say it to your face.”
“Why The F*ck Would You Send
Me This You F*ckin’ Do*che Bag?
You & That Other Fudge Packer [Other
Member] Must Be In On It!
I`m Over At Hockeyforums
Now, Look Up [His Name].
That Forum Has Class, You

Pushin` Pennies Pus*y!”
How I Handle Abuse
Directed at My Staff
“I am not claiming to
have the social
wingspan of a 747
but a lot of martial
artists will find out
about this
backwards, narrow
minded website.

Goodbye and please
don't answer my
E-Mail your
superiors and
constituents will
receive the
necessary
communications.”

Patrick’s Boss
"Make no mistake, I, as well as others, will
be contacting your boss, the head of
[link exchange partner] to inform him of
the way you have handled this matter."

Patrick

Patrick’s
Boss
“Patrick, you are indeed a
rigid little tyrant.
You are just so
hypersensitive. I see this
a simple discussion and
negotiation. You see this
as disiplinary action
and admonishment.
If you want to be the
Bull Goose Looney, fine.”
Respond, Don’t Respond or...
I understand this is your job,

and its all about
the ads for you
but surely you can take a little more risk?
“I have seen so many posts talk about [how]
ineffective BJJ is and how its incomplete... but
whenever i say anything like that about
karate... my post gets deleted and i get a
message about how i violated some guideline.

Its funny... it might have
something to do NOT
with the fact
ME
that you yourself
train karate.”
COMIC
“That’s like telling a black
person to stop being black.
Everyone has different posting
styles. My font color, my gender, my
sexuality, my religion, NONE OF IT
should affect me getting support.”
The focus of my community should
be support, rather than


“the soccer mom
side of [me].”
Always Document
and Share
“This forum is run by an


immature
meglomaniac
wannabe
with a passing interest in
martial arts & a HUGE ego.”
"I am an excellent judge of character and do
not consider you to be a bad person, but i do
believe your refusal to listen to the statements
and/or advice of others pushes you further
and further into a...

state of egoism
that could very well be
your eventual downfall,
through life and
through business"
After You Ban
“You are a f*cking Nazi. I disagree with
your moderation. Kill yourself.”

IS NOT THE SAME AS
“I disagree with your moderation.”

SO YOU CAN’T SAY
“You banned me because I disagreed.”
“I did have you on the
list of honest sites...
Honest Sites List
1. Patrick’s Site
2. Sites That Let Me Spam
... that actaually have flexability in promoting
and growing the martial arts indistry. I will
remove you from the list. and i'l make sure my
affiliates will do the same.”
“How's about I give you 36 hours from receipt of this
e-mail to prove these so called reasons [for banning me].

And if you don't - maybe I'll have my
solicitors get them.
You can either read this and
perhaps we can reason
and come to terms, or
I can simply pursue
matters further.

The choice
it yours.”
Don’t Forget the
Good Things and
the Kind People
“This is the only [martial arts] forum
I’ve seen where people are
respectful.”
- MasterPain
“I found the conversation mature,
well administrated and informative. I
feel we are a mixed bunch with a
rich and varied knowledge base. It’s
fun to see what people do in martial
arts, to share and enjoy good
banter and community friendship.”
- Harkon72
“KF was the only online community
where the moderators made you
feel safe from flaming ridicule for
simply having a different opinion, or
not being as informed as others.”

- SBN Doug
“The atmosphere and the genuine
sharing of the participants
was the best.”
- SaiFightsMS
“I’ve stuck around because
there’s a really great and positive
community on this forum. It got me
through a really difficult time in life.”
- ps1
NOT EVERYONE
THINKS YOU’RE

HITLER
The

Profile of a Community Manager
or Moderator*

* - Through the Eyes of a Banned (or Angry) Member
Dirty
F*ckbag
THANK YOU
KEEP IN TOUCH

If I can help, please don’t hesitate to contact me.
Twitter: @patrickokeefe
Facebook: /patrickokeefe
Google+: +patrickokeefe

BOOKS

Blog: ManagingCommunities.com
Email: patrick@ifroggy.com
SlideShare: /iFroggy

“Managing Online Forums”: managingonlineforums.com
“Monetizing Online Forums”: monetizingonlineforums.com (free download)

ALWAYS REMEMBER
You are not alone.

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Managing Abusive Online Community Members (or "The Mean Things People Say to Moderators")

  • 1. Managing Abusive Online Community Members (or “The Mean Things People Say to Moderators”)
  • 2. PATRICK O’KEEFE ENTREPRENEUR ONLINE COMMUNITY BOOKS PUBLIC SPEAKER Founder and owner, iFroggy Network, responsible for everything you see. “Managing Online Forums” and “Monetizing Online Forums.” CONNECT WITH ME Twitter: @patrickokeefe Facebook: /patrickokeefe Google+: +patrickokeefe Over 13 years of hands on community management experience, leading communities like KarateForums.com. CNN, Dell, FedEx, SXSW Interactive, Northwestern and more. Blog: ManagingCommunities.com Email: patrick@ifroggy.com SlideShare: /iFroggy
  • 3. The quotes in these slides are real and, at times, real frightening. They are excerpted, for length and for sanity. Any typos present are the fault of the nice people who wrote these comments. Viewer discretion is advised.
  • 4. "This is ridiculous. You over-moderate this forum to no I didn't realize it was under Nazi control. end. It's a f*cking sports forum... And by the way, take yourself off "Statistics". Yes, you have like a freakin million posts, but you also spend all your time posting on every topic that exists on this site and STILL nobody gives a sh*t about what you have to say. You're the moderator, not God. Drop the power trip and spend a little time trying to get laid. Do*chebag."
  • 6. “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.” - Godwin’s Law
  • 7. “Still the almighty forum nazi huh Patrick? You're such a pompous jacka**.”
  • 8. “You know, Hitler would be proud of the way you run your boards.”
  • 9. How Did We Get Here?
  • 10. “I've had it up to here (indicates eyebrow height) with Patrick's pathetic modding of this, his forum. ... now that I've decided to leave, it's finally safe to express my opinion of the nazi in charge. You're a spineless f*ck, Patrick with your insipid tv pc McMorality, get a life. I only wish you lived closer so I could say it to your face.”
  • 11. “Why The F*ck Would You Send Me This You F*ckin’ Do*che Bag? You & That Other Fudge Packer [Other Member] Must Be In On It! I`m Over At Hockeyforums Now, Look Up [His Name]. That Forum Has Class, You Pushin` Pennies Pus*y!”
  • 12. How I Handle Abuse Directed at My Staff
  • 13. “I am not claiming to have the social wingspan of a 747 but a lot of martial artists will find out about this backwards, narrow minded website. Goodbye and please don't answer my E-Mail your superiors and constituents will receive the necessary communications.” Patrick’s Boss
  • 14. "Make no mistake, I, as well as others, will be contacting your boss, the head of [link exchange partner] to inform him of the way you have handled this matter." Patrick Patrick’s Boss
  • 15. “Patrick, you are indeed a rigid little tyrant. You are just so hypersensitive. I see this a simple discussion and negotiation. You see this as disiplinary action and admonishment. If you want to be the Bull Goose Looney, fine.”
  • 17. I understand this is your job, and its all about the ads for you but surely you can take a little more risk?
  • 18. “I have seen so many posts talk about [how] ineffective BJJ is and how its incomplete... but whenever i say anything like that about karate... my post gets deleted and i get a message about how i violated some guideline. Its funny... it might have something to do NOT with the fact ME that you yourself train karate.”
  • 19. COMIC
  • 20. “That’s like telling a black person to stop being black. Everyone has different posting styles. My font color, my gender, my sexuality, my religion, NONE OF IT should affect me getting support.”
  • 21. The focus of my community should be support, rather than
 “the soccer mom side of [me].”
  • 23. “This forum is run by an
 immature meglomaniac wannabe with a passing interest in martial arts & a HUGE ego.”
  • 24. "I am an excellent judge of character and do not consider you to be a bad person, but i do believe your refusal to listen to the statements and/or advice of others pushes you further and further into a... state of egoism that could very well be your eventual downfall, through life and through business"
  • 26. “You are a f*cking Nazi. I disagree with your moderation. Kill yourself.” IS NOT THE SAME AS “I disagree with your moderation.” SO YOU CAN’T SAY “You banned me because I disagreed.”
  • 27. “I did have you on the list of honest sites... Honest Sites List 1. Patrick’s Site 2. Sites That Let Me Spam ... that actaually have flexability in promoting and growing the martial arts indistry. I will remove you from the list. and i'l make sure my affiliates will do the same.”
  • 28. “How's about I give you 36 hours from receipt of this e-mail to prove these so called reasons [for banning me]. And if you don't - maybe I'll have my solicitors get them. You can either read this and perhaps we can reason and come to terms, or I can simply pursue matters further. The choice it yours.”
  • 29. Don’t Forget the Good Things and the Kind People
  • 30. “This is the only [martial arts] forum I’ve seen where people are respectful.” - MasterPain
  • 31. “I found the conversation mature, well administrated and informative. I feel we are a mixed bunch with a rich and varied knowledge base. It’s fun to see what people do in martial arts, to share and enjoy good banter and community friendship.” - Harkon72
  • 32. “KF was the only online community where the moderators made you feel safe from flaming ridicule for simply having a different opinion, or not being as informed as others.” - SBN Doug
  • 33. “The atmosphere and the genuine sharing of the participants was the best.” - SaiFightsMS
  • 34. “I’ve stuck around because there’s a really great and positive community on this forum. It got me through a really difficult time in life.” - ps1
  • 36. The Profile of a Community Manager or Moderator* * - Through the Eyes of a Banned (or Angry) Member
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  • 44. THANK YOU KEEP IN TOUCH If I can help, please don’t hesitate to contact me. Twitter: @patrickokeefe Facebook: /patrickokeefe Google+: +patrickokeefe BOOKS Blog: ManagingCommunities.com Email: patrick@ifroggy.com SlideShare: /iFroggy “Managing Online Forums”: managingonlineforums.com “Monetizing Online Forums”: monetizingonlineforums.com (free download) ALWAYS REMEMBER You are not alone.