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A DIGITAL/PHYSICAL DAY IN THE LIFE
       OF A ROCK MUSIC FAN:
ONLINE AND OFFLINE AT CONCERTS
         Andrea Baker (@andee)
        Theorizing the Web III, 2013
              New York, NY
INTRODUCTION

• Background on fan project
   • Methodology
   • Areas of study: identity, relationships, community
   • Setting: Mini-tour, late 2012
• Research Questions
   • How do people use social media, mobile phones and online discussion
     boards when attending or observing a f2f event?
   • What concepts help make sense of this interweaving of media?
• Data: What happened? live + media
• Discussion: How to conceptualize it?
MUSIC/VID FROM LATEST SHOW/PPV: 12.15.2013

• See Youtube:
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weoP4Ljpb20
SETTING: PHYSICAL, DIGITAL: 11/ 2012, 12/2012
• Physical: Stones Concerts in London (2), Brooklyn (1) and
  Newark (2), the “50 and Counting” Mini-tour
• Pre-and post-concert activity, online/ offline, 3 fan boards, FB,
  Twitter: Online Communities (OCs) and Social Network Systems
  (SNSs): pre-parties, post-parties
• During concert activity, online and offline, physical/digital
WHAT HAPPENED: OVERALL + INCIDENT
• 5 concerts whole mini-tour (plus two club shows, rehearsal,
  Paris)
   • Two O2 London, Nov 2012
   • One Brooklyn, two Newark, Dec 2012
   • Three fan groups online: attendees and observers


• Setlist posted by accident
   • Process: FB to OCs
   • Picked up by rt, gts
PASS IT ON
QUOTES ON SET LIST, AND COMPARISON OF PAST,
PRESENT PROCESSES
•   First Killer says: Reply #5 12/08/12 at 6:55 pm “SR posted the set list on FB” and Ruby
    Tuesday says at 7:11 “I saw Rick’s post on FB.
•   Harold asks: "Re: Barclays Cntr, BROOKLYN, NY 12/08/12 Set after RT posts set list
     •   Reply #7-12/08/12 at 7:12 pm “Would somebody be kind enough to post a ink to SR’s
         FB?”, 7:16, RT posts link, which disappears over time.
     •   Reply #10 - 12/08/12 at 8:18pm (before start time of show, 9 pm) “Thank you Ruby
         Tuesday!" Then gotthesilver (from both ygmr and mm) asks where set list is. RT saw it
         on FB from SR, leader of Shatt.
•   Then RT says “check your PM, gts”…I get the actual PM from gts. He then posted set list in
    picture form on a music site.


•   Finally, RT sums up "Re: Barclays Cntr, BROOKLYN, NY 12/08/12 Set
     •   Reply #21 - 12/08/12 at 9:10pm ** We've come a long way with Twitter, Facebook and
         smart phones!!!!


•   Comparison of two time periods 2005-2007 and 2012-2013, gathering set list…was written on
    Charlie’s plexiglass walls at show, now given to a few. Process. Called in from show or texted,
    on first tour or occasionally clearly identified as spoiler.


•    (I stupidly ask where was the preparty to sa, not realizing she was at cc's selected place in
    brooklyn).( sa just knew, was at shatt too)
THEORETICAL IDEAS FROM DATA, GROUNDED
(FOR DISCUSSION)
• Against Digital Dualism/Pro Integration
   • More simultaneity, immediacy compared to five years ago
       • FB, Twitter more used, plus discussion boards
   • Example of incident spreading online
• For Digital Dualism/Pro Separation
   • Direct sensory input
       • had to be there—sound
       • had to be there—touch/hugs
DISCUSSION

• Advantages of Separating Realms/Timing for
  analysis/experience
   • Sensory data in f2f, beyond visual and auditory
   • For digital asynchronic, thought-out, unspontaneous interaction
• Advantages of Integrating Realms/Timing
   • Mobile and portable devices allow texting, posting, calling while f2f
   • Older conceptual divisions not reflective of everyday life interactions
• Experiential advantages of each mode, can do both as
  individual + community
   • digital, compare to sports, better view, replay faves
   • physical, excitement of crowd, hear what is heard/see it, feel it, taste it
DISCUSSION (CONT.): METAPHORS FOR
INTEGRATION
• Metaphors, Terms for discussing digital/physical interaction

• Flow:
   • flowing: air, water: stream, water-like, transparent, moving (Casells;
     Leander and McKim), liquid, “fluid” boundaries (Ward, 1999)
• Weaving or Stitching:
   • Keith R, ancient form of weaving, two guitars playing, changing
   • Mosaic of patches in quilt, textiles, kinetic, sense of touch
   • Fabric, quilt, knitting, tactile, some separation, but interwoven,
     intermingled threads (Leander and McKim, Baker)
DISCUSSION (CONT.)
• Names for new social entities: relationships, communities,
  personas/identities:
   • mixed mode: Walther and Park (2002)
   • hybrid space, hybridisation: Ward (1999)
   • blended: Baker (2007) (after blended learning)
   • augmented reality : Jurgenson (2011)

• Methodological Issues: physical, digital
   • Need p/o plus interviews
   • Need discussion board, sns observation, phone studies
CONCLUSIONS

• Insights from what happened…conceptually, methodologically,
  experientially: e.g. cross-Online Community (OC)
  collaboration/notification (+ conflict), more simultaneity of
  communication.
    • More ways of conceptualizing processes still needed.
    • More ways of capturing relevant data still needed.


• Need more studies of mutual effects on Online Communities of
  Offline Activities; how physicalOCs and how OCs  physical:
  distinguish origin of community, whether physical or digital
• Need in particular, effects of fan gatherings at live events and
  communication of those events to other members of fan
  communities
FOR FUTURE RESEARCH: THOUGHTS
•   More effects of online/offline on communities as well as on individuals
• An Issue to Consider: can we articulate agreements and disagreements on
  how to describe the merging but not identical realms of digital and physical?
TWITTER FROM BERNARD, BACK UP SINGER:
DRESSING ROOMS
THANK YOU!
 bakera@ohiou.edu

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A Digital/Physical Day in the Life of A Rock Music Fan: Online and Offline at Concerts - Andrea Baker

  • 1. A DIGITAL/PHYSICAL DAY IN THE LIFE OF A ROCK MUSIC FAN: ONLINE AND OFFLINE AT CONCERTS Andrea Baker (@andee) Theorizing the Web III, 2013 New York, NY
  • 2. INTRODUCTION • Background on fan project • Methodology • Areas of study: identity, relationships, community • Setting: Mini-tour, late 2012 • Research Questions • How do people use social media, mobile phones and online discussion boards when attending or observing a f2f event? • What concepts help make sense of this interweaving of media? • Data: What happened? live + media • Discussion: How to conceptualize it?
  • 3. MUSIC/VID FROM LATEST SHOW/PPV: 12.15.2013 • See Youtube: • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weoP4Ljpb20
  • 4. SETTING: PHYSICAL, DIGITAL: 11/ 2012, 12/2012 • Physical: Stones Concerts in London (2), Brooklyn (1) and Newark (2), the “50 and Counting” Mini-tour • Pre-and post-concert activity, online/ offline, 3 fan boards, FB, Twitter: Online Communities (OCs) and Social Network Systems (SNSs): pre-parties, post-parties • During concert activity, online and offline, physical/digital
  • 5. WHAT HAPPENED: OVERALL + INCIDENT • 5 concerts whole mini-tour (plus two club shows, rehearsal, Paris) • Two O2 London, Nov 2012 • One Brooklyn, two Newark, Dec 2012 • Three fan groups online: attendees and observers • Setlist posted by accident • Process: FB to OCs • Picked up by rt, gts
  • 7. QUOTES ON SET LIST, AND COMPARISON OF PAST, PRESENT PROCESSES • First Killer says: Reply #5 12/08/12 at 6:55 pm “SR posted the set list on FB” and Ruby Tuesday says at 7:11 “I saw Rick’s post on FB. • Harold asks: "Re: Barclays Cntr, BROOKLYN, NY 12/08/12 Set after RT posts set list • Reply #7-12/08/12 at 7:12 pm “Would somebody be kind enough to post a ink to SR’s FB?”, 7:16, RT posts link, which disappears over time. • Reply #10 - 12/08/12 at 8:18pm (before start time of show, 9 pm) “Thank you Ruby Tuesday!" Then gotthesilver (from both ygmr and mm) asks where set list is. RT saw it on FB from SR, leader of Shatt. • Then RT says “check your PM, gts”…I get the actual PM from gts. He then posted set list in picture form on a music site. • Finally, RT sums up "Re: Barclays Cntr, BROOKLYN, NY 12/08/12 Set • Reply #21 - 12/08/12 at 9:10pm ** We've come a long way with Twitter, Facebook and smart phones!!!! • Comparison of two time periods 2005-2007 and 2012-2013, gathering set list…was written on Charlie’s plexiglass walls at show, now given to a few. Process. Called in from show or texted, on first tour or occasionally clearly identified as spoiler. • (I stupidly ask where was the preparty to sa, not realizing she was at cc's selected place in brooklyn).( sa just knew, was at shatt too)
  • 8. THEORETICAL IDEAS FROM DATA, GROUNDED (FOR DISCUSSION) • Against Digital Dualism/Pro Integration • More simultaneity, immediacy compared to five years ago • FB, Twitter more used, plus discussion boards • Example of incident spreading online • For Digital Dualism/Pro Separation • Direct sensory input • had to be there—sound • had to be there—touch/hugs
  • 9. DISCUSSION • Advantages of Separating Realms/Timing for analysis/experience • Sensory data in f2f, beyond visual and auditory • For digital asynchronic, thought-out, unspontaneous interaction • Advantages of Integrating Realms/Timing • Mobile and portable devices allow texting, posting, calling while f2f • Older conceptual divisions not reflective of everyday life interactions • Experiential advantages of each mode, can do both as individual + community • digital, compare to sports, better view, replay faves • physical, excitement of crowd, hear what is heard/see it, feel it, taste it
  • 10. DISCUSSION (CONT.): METAPHORS FOR INTEGRATION • Metaphors, Terms for discussing digital/physical interaction • Flow: • flowing: air, water: stream, water-like, transparent, moving (Casells; Leander and McKim), liquid, “fluid” boundaries (Ward, 1999) • Weaving or Stitching: • Keith R, ancient form of weaving, two guitars playing, changing • Mosaic of patches in quilt, textiles, kinetic, sense of touch • Fabric, quilt, knitting, tactile, some separation, but interwoven, intermingled threads (Leander and McKim, Baker)
  • 11. DISCUSSION (CONT.) • Names for new social entities: relationships, communities, personas/identities: • mixed mode: Walther and Park (2002) • hybrid space, hybridisation: Ward (1999) • blended: Baker (2007) (after blended learning) • augmented reality : Jurgenson (2011) • Methodological Issues: physical, digital • Need p/o plus interviews • Need discussion board, sns observation, phone studies
  • 12. CONCLUSIONS • Insights from what happened…conceptually, methodologically, experientially: e.g. cross-Online Community (OC) collaboration/notification (+ conflict), more simultaneity of communication. • More ways of conceptualizing processes still needed. • More ways of capturing relevant data still needed. • Need more studies of mutual effects on Online Communities of Offline Activities; how physicalOCs and how OCs  physical: distinguish origin of community, whether physical or digital • Need in particular, effects of fan gatherings at live events and communication of those events to other members of fan communities
  • 13. FOR FUTURE RESEARCH: THOUGHTS • More effects of online/offline on communities as well as on individuals • An Issue to Consider: can we articulate agreements and disagreements on how to describe the merging but not identical realms of digital and physical?
  • 14. TWITTER FROM BERNARD, BACK UP SINGER: DRESSING ROOMS

Editor's Notes

  1. Interviews, observation, diigital/physical, since 2007
  2. Photo: Jim Pietryga