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hollyby                         For the next hour I'll be tweeting from the #hospice and #palliative medicine
                                tweetchat. #hpm
                                Wed Jun 8 18:01:03 PDT 2011




elderpages                      15 year old girl who is terminal with cancer has made a bucket list. One of her
                                wishes: to trend on Twitter. Give a RT #alicebucketlist #hpm
                                Wed Jun 8 18:01:09 PDT 2011




jodyms                          Hello everyone, I'm Jody Schoger and will be moderating tonight's #HPM chat. I'm a
                                cancer survivor, co-survivor, writer and blogger.
                                Wed Jun 8 18:01:10 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc                    Hi, Joining #hpm from the basement. Major thunderstorms here in Madison, WI.
                                Fingers crossed and praying. #hpm
                                Wed Jun 8 18:01:25 PDT 2011




jodyms                          Who's joining us for tonight's discussion? Please introduce yourself. It's great to be
                                connected with all of you again. #HPM
                                Wed Jun 8 18:01:54 PDT 2011




ctsinclair                      RT @hollyby: For the next hour Ill be tweeting from the #hospice and #palliative
                                medicine tweetchat. "me too!" #hpm
                                Wed Jun 8 18:01:55 PDT 2011




equijada                        Hi all. Thanks for hosting @jodyms #hpm
                                Wed Jun 8 18:02:13 PDT 2011




hollyby                         @jfclearywisc Stay safe! #hpm
                                Wed Jun 8 18:02:35 PDT 2011




elderpages                      Nice to "see" you all. I'm a hospice volunteer, research scientist, family caregiver and
                                webmaster committed to community devt via Web #hpm
                                Wed Jun 8 18:02:38 PDT 2011
MedicalMarcom     I showed up an hour early! Now I know better. Joe Hage, #MedDevice founder, mktg
                  comm for med companies. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:02:52 PDT 2011




jodyms            @jfclearywisc @equijada @ctsinclair - greetings! #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:02:57 PDT 2011




authordhallman    #hpm - David here. lost my partner to pancreatic cancer 2 wks after diagnosis.
                  Wed Jun 8 18:03:05 PDT 2011




aliciabloom       MSW, LSW from @VITASHospice & Palliative Care. #hpm consults, clinical
                  education & program development. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:03:28 PDT 2011




equijada          @authordhallman Hi David, welcome. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:03:38 PDT 2011




MedicalMarcom     I am looking to meet a HPM professional with experience selling into #HPM orgs +
                  figured y'all would have recos?
                  Wed Jun 8 18:03:57 PDT 2011




hollyby           Hello, Holly Yang. HPM doc from @SanDiegoHospice. Interests in international
                  #palliative med, pt care, med ed, SoMe, communication #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:04:11 PDT 2011




Freshwidow        Supa, widow blogger, #HPM advocate and family member. Crazy hair. Thanks for
                  hosting, @jodyms!
                  Wed Jun 8 18:04:31 PDT 2011




jodyms            Welcome @authorhallman @aliciabloom @medicalmarcom #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:04:32 PDT 2011




DrSnit            @jodyms Hey cats! Longtime no see Jodycakes!! Muah!! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:04:46 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   HI I'm Lisa Trainer/Speaker/Creative Connector. Looking forward to @jodyms and
                  the other leaders in #HPM Field #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:04:51 PDT 2011




hollyby           As always, all tweets are my own #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:05:08 PDT 2011




drseisenberg      Hi there! Steven Eisenberg. Medical oncologist. Lyrical Life guy. I co-write original
                  songs with cancer and hospice patients. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:05:21 PDT 2011




PinkRibbonBlues   #HPM Gayle here, medical sociologist, focus on breast cancer culture, industry,
                  advocacy, and survivorship. Love @jodyms
                  Wed Jun 8 18:05:24 PDT 2011
doctatum          RT @doctatum Paul from Mo. Before the floods hit. On phone. Oops. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:05:27 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        Intros: Hello, Christian Sinclair here, Palliative MD @KChospice, Editor @Pallimed,
                  fan of @SportingKC and the new @LiveSTRONGPark #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:05:32 PDT 2011




jodyms            I'll asking #HPM questions tonight on behalf of the cancer survivor community. And
                  I'm sure if I misrepresent them we'll hear otherwise:)
                  Wed Jun 8 18:05:32 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      @MedicalMarcom PRobably not tonight given topic is "Abandonment-what patients
                  really feel. Don't mean to abandon you :-) #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:05:41 PDT 2011




jodyms            @drsnit @hollyby @practicalwisdom Awesome to see you:) #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:06:00 PDT 2011




uvmer             Hi! Lurking in the shadows and might butt in. (: #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:06:10 PDT 2011




MatthewsMichele   <--#hospice, #hpm advocate, patient and community empowerment enthusiast!
                  #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:06:11 PDT 2011




revdoc            RT @ctsinclair: RT @hollyby: For the next hour Ill be tweeting from the #hospice and
                  #palliative medicine tweetchat. "me too!" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:06:34 PDT 2011




MedicalMarcom     @jfclearywisc thanks. I'll stick around all the same + meet some new #HPM folks!
                  Wed Jun 8 18:06:41 PDT 2011




DrSnit            Me 3 RT @ctsinclair RT @hollyby: For the next hour Ill be tweeting from the #hospice
                  & #palliative medicine tweetchat. "me too" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:06:47 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @hollyby RE: Twwets are my own: Intersting take from @Doctor_V Should We Ditch
                  Social Media Disclaimers? http://hpm.md/lzTW9G #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:06:47 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   Sorry are the floods close? RT @doctatum: RT @doctatum Paul from Mo. Before the
                  floods hit. On phone. Oops. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:06:58 PDT 2011




MatthewsMichele   <---oh and #socialmedia junkie! :-) #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:07:20 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @uvmer Hi Nancy, I am sure we will lure you in with some good conversation! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:07:25 PDT 2011
jodyms            #HPM - Our topic tonight is what patients really fear: abandonment. Abandonment by
                  doctors, friends, and family.
                  Wed Jun 8 18:07:31 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   Thanks excited about tonight. RT @jodyms: @drsnit @hollyby @practicalwisdom
                  Awesome to see you:) #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:07:42 PDT 2011




revdoc            Pam Harris MD @KCHospice, ordained minister #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:07:47 PDT 2011




DrSnit            RT @jodyms: I'll asking #HPM questions tonight on behalf of the cancer survivor
                  community. And I'm sure if I misrepresent them we'll hear otherwise:)
                  Wed Jun 8 18:08:06 PDT 2011




revdoc            @revdoc @KCHospice Tweets are my own #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:08:14 PDT 2011




RossJeanette      Hi I'm Jeanette Ross HPM doc associate Fellowship director @uthscsa in san
                  Antonio passionate about teaching. Will lurk tonight #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:08:14 PDT 2011




elderpages        @jodyms I would like to hear more about some of those fears. Can you start with a
                  few? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:08:17 PDT 2011




hollyby           @ctsinclair It's part of my employer's SoMe policy, I believe, so... I do it. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:08:26 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @PinkRibbonBlues Hi Gayle! Welcome to the chat! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:08:33 PDT 2011




uvmer             @ctsinclair Most probably... (: Not the silent type. Thanks. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:08:40 PDT 2011




jodyms            So my first T1: how can we work together to help transition patients into healing,
                  supportive care? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:08:42 PDT 2011




equijada          RT @jodyms: I'll asking #HPM questions tonight on behalf of the cancer survivor
                  community. And I'm sure if I misrepresent them we'll hear otherwise:)
                  Wed Jun 8 18:09:08 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        Just a tip if you do use cancer in your tweet feel free to hashtag it. Some people
                  might be looking for that, and stumble here. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:09:10 PDT 2011




MatthewsMichele   RT @jodyms: So my first T1: how can we work together to help transition patients
                  into healing, supportive care? #hpm
Wed Jun 8 18:09:11 PDT 2011




hollyby           RT @jodyms: So my first T1: how can we work together to help transition patients
                  into healing, supportive care? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:09:13 PDT 2011




JohnGirdwood      @ctsinclair I love this #hpm thing so much, almost as much (maybe equally) as
                  watching Tigers or BoSox vs Yankees!
                  Wed Jun 8 18:09:28 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @hollyby: @ctsinclair Its part of my employers SoMe policy, I believe, so... I do it.
                  "good answer!" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:09:31 PDT 2011




jodyms            RT @ctsinclair: Just a tip if you do use cancer in your tweet feel free to hashtag it.
                  Some people might be looking for that, and stumble here. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:09:34 PDT 2011




jodyms            @uvmer Nancy, you have a lot to add here. I'm glad you've joined us. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:09:59 PDT 2011




andybaldwin       @ctsinclair @kchospice @pallimed @sportingkc @hollyby @livestrongpark #hpm hi
                  everyone! Dr. Baldwin here #AskDrAndy
                  Wed Jun 8 18:10:00 PDT 2011




Doctor_V          And The Palliatives convene #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:10:19 PDT 2011




elderpages        Can you help by clarifying transition from what? Do you mean changing goals of care
                  from curative to comfort? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:10:26 PDT 2011




hollyby           @andybaldwin Hi Andy! Great to have you join us! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:10:38 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   RT @jodyms: RT @ctsinclair: Just a tip if you do use cancer in tweet feel free 2
                  hashtag. # people might B looking4 & stumble here. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:10:44 PDT 2011




DrSnit            RT @jodyms: So my first T1: how can we work together to help transition patients
                  into healing, supportive care? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:10:45 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        T1 (Clarification) @jodyms Which 'we" did you have in mind with this question? We
                  the chatters, we the social media-ists, etc? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:10:50 PDT 2011




elderpages        RT @Doctor_V: And The Palliatives convene...T: Sounds like a backup band :-) #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:11:02 PDT 2011
JohnGirdwood      I was called to HR before to clear up my use so... RT @hollyby: @ctsinclair It's part of
                  my employer's SoMe policy, so... I do it #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:11:06 PDT 2011



aliciabloom       early integration #palliative care brings supportive care throughout the continuum of
                  illness, making it less of an abrupt transition #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:11:14 PDT 2011




uvmer             @jodyms Thanks Jody. (: #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:11:16 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   Are you going to join us tonight? That would be great RT @Doctor_V: And The
                  Palliatives convene #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:11:17 PDT 2011




jodyms            @elderpages T1: Transition from curative to comfort and supportive. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:11:21 PDT 2011




DrSnit            @jodyms Yes yes yes! so glad you're here @uvmer!! xo #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:11:26 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        T1: I think healing supportive care should come as part of the package regardless of
                  goals #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:11:38 PDT 2011




equijada          t1 prior to working together, I have to be prepared to go into a place that is sacred,
                  scary. Make sure I'm in a good place #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:11:50 PDT 2011




drseisenberg      T1: Talk early, talk often and talk authentically about #cancer and hospice. Med oncs
                  just gotta do it. #asco11 #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:11:59 PDT 2011




DoctorFisher      Hello Palliators #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:12:02 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @aliciabloom: early integration #palliative care brings supportive care across
                  continuum of illness, making less abrupt transition #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:12:07 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   RT @aliciabloom: early integration #palliative care brings supportive care throughout
                  continuum illness, making it (-) an abrupt trans. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:12:17 PDT 2011




revdoc            T1 IMHO we need better training, inservices, curriculum for non-HPM types so that
                  referrals are made by usual MDs, nonthreatening #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:12:20 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @aliciabloom Nice concise statement! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:12:20 PDT 2011
PracticalWisdom   RT @drseisenberg: T1: Talk early, talk often and talk authentically about #cancer and
                  hospice. Med oncs just gotta do it. #asco11 #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:12:30 PDT 2011




DoctorFisher      RT @ctsinclair: T1: I think healing supportive care should come as part of the
                  package regardless of goals #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:12:39 PDT 2011




elderpages        Guess I'm in listening mode (questions mode). What would survivors like
                  professionals to do to be more collaborative? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:12:53 PDT 2011




aliciabloom       @ctsinclair thanks! i'm getting better at this 140 character thing ;) #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:12:55 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   RT @revdoc: T1 IMHO we need better training, inservices, curriculum for non-HPM
                  types so referrals R made by usual MDs, nonthreatening #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:13:03 PDT 2011




Doctor_V          Lurking #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:13:13 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   RT @elderpages: Guess Im in listening mode (questions mode). What would
                  survivors like professionals to do to be more collaborative? #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:13:17 PDT 2011




thinkalot         RT @drseisenberg: T1: Talk early, talk often and talk authentically about #cancer and
                  hospice. Med oncs just gotta do it. #asco11 #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:13:29 PDT 2011




jodyms            @ctsinclair T1: Understand that the end of life is a big mystery to most cancer
                  patients. Its the chapter in the book we don't read. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:13:43 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        T1: Important to address w/ psychology of the patient and the family, seen wide
                  variety of adjustment to illness (some good, some bad) #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:13:47 PDT 2011




hollyby           T1: It should not feel like an "either/or" issue. Supportive/palliative care should begin
                  early, regardless of ability to cure. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:13:57 PDT 2011




ihatebreastcanc   @jodyms Katherine with bone-only MBC #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:14:10 PDT 2011




drseisenberg      Med oncs can become involved with a hospice. Continuity. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:14:24 PDT 2011




DrSnit            I'm always intrigued by how afraid and alone people (the patients, the caretakers
                  sometimes even the docs) feel during treatment #hpm
Wed Jun 8 18:14:24 PDT 2011



MatthewsMichele   RT @elderpages: 15 year old girl who is terminal with cancer has made a bucket
                  list. One of her wishes: to trend on Twitter. Give a RT #alicebucketlist #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:14:25 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @elderpages Yes I would like to here from #cancer survivors as well on this topic.
                  #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:14:28 PDT 2011




jodyms            @PracticalWisdom @elderpages First we need to make connections between
                  clinical #HPM and survivor communities. Bridge must be constructed.
                  Wed Jun 8 18:14:41 PDT 2011




equijada          RT @jodyms: @ctsinclair T1: Understand that the end of life is a big mystery to most
                  cancer patients. Its the chapter in the book we don't read. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:14:42 PDT 2011




jodyms            @ihatebreastcanc Thank you for joining us. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:14:59 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        T1: the curious challenge is identifying transition points. All stakeholders may have
                  different perceptions of timing. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:14:59 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   RT @ctsinclair: T1: Imp.2 address w/ psychology of pt & family, seen wide variety of
                  adjustment to illness (some good, some bad) #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:15:03 PDT 2011




hollyby           RT @ctsinclair: T1: the curious challenge is identifying transition points. All
                  stakeholders may have different perceptions of timing. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:15:28 PDT 2011




elderpages        RT @equijada: RT @jodyms: T1: End of life is a big mystery to most cancer patients.
                  Its the chapter in the book we dont read. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:15:34 PDT 2011




DrSnit            @uvmer :) so glad you've joined the conversation. Your voice is necessary! xo #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:15:38 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @ihatebreastcanc We really appreciate the perspective of patients and families in
                  this chat. Glad you are here. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:15:47 PDT 2011




MatthewsMichele   pls. rt @JohnAmussen: I'm a marrow donor. here's 1 reason why. http://t.co/72Kubdy
                  / #alicebucketlist” me too! www.marrow.org via @mswz #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:15:53 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   RT @jodyms: @PracticalWisdom @elderpages 1st we need 2 make connect
                  Btween clinical #HPM/survivor commu. Bridge must be constructed. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:15:57 PDT 2011
elderpages        TI: I think part of collaboration is starting where "they/we" are. Families and patients
                  not always on same page as each other. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:16:20 PDT 2011




authordhallman    #hpm In Ontario, we benefitted from the coordinating agency that links the PC MDs,
                  community nurses, homemakers for the family’s benefit
                  Wed Jun 8 18:16:23 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      In #cancer & other diseases, do we reduce sense of abandonment with clear
                  definition of goals of care: cure, prolong, palliate #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:16:39 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @hollyby: T1: Shouldn't feel like an "either/or" issue. Supportive/palliative care
                  should begin early, regardless of ability to cure #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:16:50 PDT 2011




JohnGirdwood      Like your twitter name : ) RT @jodyms: @ihatebreastcanc Thank you for joining us.
                  #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:17:00 PDT 2011




equijada          @jodyms how do cancer patients wish to transitioner? As a physician, I slowly push
                  boundaries till I get resistance then back off #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:17:05 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   RT @elderpages: TI: Part of collaboration is starting where "they/we" R.
                  Families/patients not always on same page as each other. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:17:07 PDT 2011




DrSnit            @elderpages YES! And even when they ARE on the same page, EMOTIONS come
                  up and people feel like a "failure" for having feelings #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:17:23 PDT 2011




MatthewsMichele   T1: End of life is a big mystery to most cancer patients. Its the chapter in the book we
                  dont read. via @jodyms #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:17:24 PDT 2011




aliciabloom       stop perpetuating the everything/treatment vs. nothing/hospice dichotomy #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:17:25 PDT 2011




uvmer             As care giver to my partner w/a brain tumor, an early conversation & an advanced
                  directive were key.Knew then the path I was to follow. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:17:34 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      RT @hollyby: T1: Shouldnt feel like an "either/or" issue. Supportive/palliative care
                  should begin early, regardless of ability to cure #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:17:36 PDT 2011




Freshwidow        I disagree about transition points. @ctsinclair: As a #cancer widow, I wish we had
                  some orientation to hospice/PM at dx... or earlier! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:17:39 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        T1: I think the concept of 'navigator' has been helpful in breast #cancer, wondering if
                  applied more broadly? #hpm
applied more broadly? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:17:47 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   RT @equijada: @jodyms how do cancer patients wish2 transitioner? As MD, I slowly
                  push boundaries till I get resistance then back off #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:18:01 PDT 2011




elderpages        I love the work of Dr. David Casarret: Talk first about hopes and achievable goals.
                  Strategize transition in context of achieving these #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:18:11 PDT 2011




jodyms            Elaborate - I like that RT @aliciabloom stop perpetuating the everything/treatment vs.
                  nothing/hospice dichotomy #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:18:12 PDT 2011




MatthewsMichele   @PracticalWisdom @elderpages how do we get them on the same page...is that
                  not where the process should begin? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:18:12 PDT 2011




MatthewsMichele   RT @aliciabloom: stop perpetuating the everything/treatment vs. nothing/hospice
                  dichotomy #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:18:18 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @aliciabloom Got to talk to a nurse today about that. She was very receptive to
                  having good language to describe the role of pall care #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:18:19 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      @uvmer So how tough was that early conversation and did it take away hope? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:18:30 PDT 2011




Freshwidow        I believe once you get the idea that there is a "transition" point, you are too delicate to
                  ever start with most ppl. #hpm @ctsinclair
                  Wed Jun 8 18:18:41 PDT 2011




drseisenberg      T1: Compassionate communication must be there from day 1. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:18:45 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @Freshwidow So glad you are here! Tell me more why you disagree about transition
                  points. I think we are probably on the same page. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:18:50 PDT 2011




jodyms            @freshwidow I agree completely from what I've seen and experienced. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:18:54 PDT 2011




equijada          RT @Freshwidow: I disagree about transition points. @ctsinclair: As a #cancer
                  widow, I wish we had some orientation to hospice/PM at dx... or earlier! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:18:54 PDT 2011




revdoc            T1 Maybe we need doulas (sp?) for death as well as for birthing? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:19:00 PDT 2011
elderpages        RT @MatthewsMichele: how do we get them on the same page...is that not where
                  the process should begin?...T: "Whose" page is first? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:19:17 PDT 2011



Freshwidow        With us, the disease was slow for a long time... it started to change v. quickly, then
                  more quickly. NO time to adjust. #hpm @ctsinclair
                  Wed Jun 8 18:19:33 PDT 2011




elderpages        RT @revdoc: T1 Maybe we need doulas (sp?) for death as well as for birthing?... T:
                  As a former midwife, YES!!! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:19:35 PDT 2011




DrSnit            RT @revdoc: T1 Maybe we need doulas (sp?) for death as well as for birthing?
                  #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:19:39 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @uvmer Was knowing the path helpful, even if you veered off the path? Like knowing
                  when things were not as planned? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:19:40 PDT 2011




RossJeanette      T1 healthcare providers should accept that palliative care can improve quality and
                  length of life too. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:19:43 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   Not sure there is a simple nor easy answer. G8 ?RT @MatthewsMichele:
                  @PracticalWisdom @elderpages how do we get them on the same page. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:19:47 PDT 2011




aliciabloom       if we are to have true informed consent, patients need to know best & worst case
                  scenarios and everything in between. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:19:51 PDT 2011




ihatebreastcanc   #cancer the word palliative is misunderstood. Some equate it with giving up or no
                  hope. Need to clearly define for patient and family #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:19:58 PDT 2011




jodyms            EOL navigators, doulas? Those are interesting thoughts. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:20:02 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @revdoc There have been some doulas for EOL but I think they would avoid calling
                  themselves Death Doulas. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:20:07 PDT 2011




EldrcareConsult   Wait!!! Dont start yet!!! I am here now! :) #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:20:17 PDT 2011




aliciabloom       @ctsinclair language is critically important and a focus of the clinical education i do.
                  #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:20:22 PDT 2011




hollyby           T1: Providers need to develop communication skills to address goals & what is
                  important to the patient at diagnosis and revisit them #hpm
Wed Jun 8 18:20:27 PDT 2011




MatthewsMichele   @elderpages @MatthewsMichele the patient's page...definitely the patient's page.
                  #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:20:29 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   RT @Freshwidow: With us, disease was slow 4 a long timeit started 2 change v.
                  quickly/then quickly. NO time to adjust. #hpm @ctsinclair #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:20:35 PDT 2011




westr             RT @drseisenberg: T1: Compassionate communication must be there from day 1.
                  #hpm #pm101 #hcsm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:20:35 PDT 2011




Pallimed          Death doulas in the NY Times from Pallimed: A Hospice and Palliative Medicine
                  Blog http://hpm.md/lSsRkM #hpm cc @revdoc
                  Wed Jun 8 18:20:36 PDT 2011




MatthewsMichele   RT @aliciabloom: if we are to have true informed consent, patients need to know
                  best & worst case scenarios and everything in between. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:20:40 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @jodyms: EOL navigators, doulas? Those are interesting thoughts. "but then we
                  have the tough EOL/labeling issue" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:21:00 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   So glad to see you. Always add value and kindness.RT @EldrcareConsult: Wait!!!
                  Dont start yet!!! I am here now! :) #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:21:12 PDT 2011




jodyms            RT @westr: RT @drseisenberg: T1: Compassionate communication must be there
                  from day 1. #hpm #pm101 #hcsm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:21:12 PDT 2011




revdoc            RT @ctsinclair: I think they avoid calling themselves Death Doulas. "Are we still that
                  death avoidant? It's birth to different realm" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:21:40 PDT 2011




DrSnit            @revdoc The idea of a "death doula" is powerful. But death, loss, & dying are so
                  culturally centered, who would do it best? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:21:46 PDT 2011




EldrcareConsult   The little one and I were out washing my truck..... :) #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:21:47 PDT 2011




JoshGriffin       RT @RossJeanette: T1 healthcare providers should accept that palliative care can
                  improve quality and length of life too. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:21:49 PDT 2011




Freshwidow        I hear this a LOT from my widows... and we often focus it (wrongly I think) on the
                  excessive hope in disease communities #hpm @ctsinclair
                  Wed Jun 8 18:21:53 PDT 2011
jodyms            T2: You all agree on early discussion. Where/when does that take place? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:21:56 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      I talk to all patients with advanced disease about #hpm. They can choose not to have
                  anticancertherapy. Hospice is important then. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:21:57 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   Listening to needs 1st start.RT @westr: RT @drseisenberg: T1: Compassionate
                  communication must be there from day 1. #hpm #pm101 #hcsm #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:22:02 PDT 2011




PinkRibbonBlues   RT @MatthewsMichele: RT @aliciabloom: if we are to have true informed consent,
                  patients need to know best & worst case scenarios and everything in between.
                  #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:22:07 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @Freshwidow The different trajectories of illness is often discussed by palliative
                  teams. Some are gradual, others very erratic #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:22:15 PDT 2011




elderpages        See link on tipsheet for talking about hospice: Identify hopes first. http://bit.ly/m1wYsJ
                  #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:22:16 PDT 2011




jodyms            @revdoc @ctsinclair We ARE death avoidant. How do we tell the truth in cultures
                  where the truth is not to be told? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:22:37 PDT 2011




Freshwidow        For me, hope for change is in the grassroots already active: disease communities
                  MUST start to talk about "not every makes it." #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:22:42 PDT 2011




vj_CR             @PracticalWisdom hello Lisa! I´m I too late to jump in #hpm ??
                  Wed Jun 8 18:22:49 PDT 2011




jodyms            RT @jfclearywisc: I talk to all patients with advanced disease about #hpm. They can
                  choose not to have anticancertherapy. Hospice is im ...
                  Wed Jun 8 18:22:51 PDT 2011




PinkRibbonBlues   RT @Freshwidow @ctsinclair We often focus it (wrongly I think) on the excessive
                  hope in disease communities #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:22:55 PDT 2011




equijada          @jodyms would it be helpful if a healthcare provider was identified from day one as
                  the "non-abandoner" (obviously need better term) #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:23:21 PDT 2011




ihatebreastcanc   #cancer everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die. Denial is a
                  powerful coping mechanism! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:23:21 PDT 2011




buffalogator      RT @Pallimed: Death doulas in the NY Times from Pallimed: A Hospice and
buffalogator      RT @Pallimed: Death doulas in the NY Times from Pallimed: A Hospice and
                  Palliative Medicine Blog http://hpm.md/lSsRkM #hpm cc @revdoc
                  Wed Jun 8 18:23:23 PDT 2011




jodyms            Agree! RT @Freshwidow I hear this a LOT from my widows... and we often focus it
                  (wrongly I think) on excessive hope #hpm @ctsinclair
                  Wed Jun 8 18:23:32 PDT 2011




MatthewsMichele   @vj_CR @PracticalWisdom my two cents...no way, jump in anytime! ;) #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:23:36 PDT 2011




hollyby           @jfclearywisc Some patients on hospice continue palliative chemo, don't
                  necessarily have to d/c anticancer therapy. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:23:39 PDT 2011




drseisenberg      I saw so many young patients today; new patients. Connection first. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:23:46 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @revdoc Yes we (culture) are 'death avoidant' in terms of our own mortality. Most
                  acknowledge death is inevitable, just not dying yet. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:23:47 PDT 2011




Freshwidow        We widows OFTEN see this as a culture change issue across the board b/c of our
                  isolation and perspective btwn 2 worlds #hpm.
                  Wed Jun 8 18:23:54 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   @Jodyms is our leader 2 night sure she/we are glad you R hereRT @vj_CR:
                  @PracticalWisdom hello Lisa! I´m I too late to jump in #hpm ?? #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:23:56 PDT 2011




revdoc            @jodyms @ctsinclair We learn to tell truth in the language of each culture; takes a lot
                  of work and cultural sensitivity #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:24:09 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @Freshwidow: hope for change is in the grassroots already active: disease
                  communities MUST start to talk about "not every makes it." #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:24:13 PDT 2011




vj_CR             @MatthewsMichele @PracticalWisdom great! #hpm thanks for the warm welcome!
                  Wed Jun 8 18:24:17 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      RT @MatthewsMichele: RT @aliciabloom: if we are to have true informed consent:
                  Yes it is informed consent so need it from diagnosis. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:24:18 PDT 2011




equijada          @jodyms @Freshwidow I like what @jfclearywisc has been teaching about
                  hope/hubris #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:24:30 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @drseisenberg: I saw so many young patients today; new patients. Connection
                  first. "Helps establish trust, and non-abandonment" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:24:34 PDT 2011
DrSnit            @Freshwidow People often take "hope" or make "meanings" in amazing ways
                  during the illness process. How or should we even shift this? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:24:46 PDT 2011




elderpages        RT @PinkRibbonBlues: We often focus it (wrongly I think) on the excessive hope...T:
                  Hope has many faces. http://bit.ly/mUBNWI #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:24:49 PDT 2011




VillageMemorial   @ctsinclair What about collaborating w/friendly funeral directors? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:24:53 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @ihatebreastcanc: #cancer everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to
                  die. Denial is a powerful coping mechanism! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:25:06 PDT 2011




aliciabloom       at time of diagnosis with an advanced illness there should be discussion about
                  values, preferences and wishes. balance hope & reality. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:25:08 PDT 2011




jodyms            Absolutely @equijada would it be helpful if a healthcare provider was id'd frm day as
                  one "non-abandoner" (obviously need better term) #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:25:14 PDT 2011




MarksPhone        Sorry had a senior day totally forgot #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:25:24 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @ihatebreastcanc Important too, to recognize that denial as coping mechanism is
                  not always 'negative' can be helpful at times. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:25:35 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      @hollyby @jfclearywisc Not suggesting can't have chemo and hospice. Informed
                  consent is reason for early Hospice discussion @diagnosis #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:25:36 PDT 2011




EldrcareConsult   @VillageMemorial @ctsinclair I have established some great relationships with
                  funeral directors...they are great resources #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:25:48 PDT 2011




revdoc            RT @revdoc: @jodyms @ctsinclair lot of work & cultural sensitivity "also not a one
                  time thing, reveal the truth over time as pt/fam tol #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:25:57 PDT 2011




hollyby           RT @aliciabloom: at time of dx w/ advanced illness there should be discussion abt
                  values, preferences & wishes. balance hope & reality. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:26:04 PDT 2011




JohnGirdwood      Great! Every step of the way RT @equijada: @jodyms helpful if healthcare provider
                  identified from day 1: "non-abandoner" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:26:24 PDT 2011




VillageMemorial   Does anyone have experience w/home monitoring distance care over internet?
VillageMemorial   Does anyone have experience w/home monitoring distance care over internet?

                  #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:26:27 PDT 2011



ctsinclair        @jodyms RE: Non-abandoner - we need more negatives in there. I am a non-anti-
                  abandoning unavoider. ;-) #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:26:28 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   VAlentina is joining us from Argentina RT @vj_CR: @MatthewsMichele
                  @PracticalWisdom great! #hpm thanks for the warm welcome! #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:26:30 PDT 2011




hollyby           True. RT @jfclearywisc: @hollyby Not suggesting cant have chemo & hospice.
                  Informed consent is reason for early Hospice discussion @ dx #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:26:40 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      RT @equijada: @jodyms @Freshwidow I like what @jfclearywisc has been teaching
                  about hope/hubris Thanks it is James Tulsky's work!! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:26:44 PDT 2011




aliciabloom       #palliative care discussions before LVAD surgery did not take away hope & was
                  found to provide relief (mnt.to/3WDs) #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:26:51 PDT 2011




Freshwidow        I wonder if shrinks can offer some insight as to when ppl in shock from catastrophic
                  dx can best receive #HPM intro?
                  Wed Jun 8 18:26:56 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   RT @EldrcareConsult: @VillageMemorial @ctsinclair I have established # great
                  relationships w/ funeral directors they R great resources #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:27:05 PDT 2011




jodyms            @ctsinclair EOL facilitor doesn't work, either.....#hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:27:09 PDT 2011




drseisenberg      I had to listen listen listen and then listen. Then gently talk about what we need to do
                  next. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:27:14 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @jfclearywisc Would love health care to really focus on informed consent. So
                  undervalued. World's biggest lie 'I have read the terms' #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:27:27 PDT 2011




Freshwidow        Agree -- or earlier! RT @hollyby: RT @aliciabloom: at time of dx w/ advanced illness
                  there should be discussion ..... #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:27:30 PDT 2011




jodyms            RT @aliciabloom: #palliative care discussions before LVAD surgery did not take
                  away hope & was found to provide relief (mnt.to/3WDs) #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:27:31 PDT 2011




jodyms            RT @PracticalWisdom: VAlentina is joining us from Argentina RT @vj_CR:
                  @MatthewsMichele @PracticalWisdom great! #hpm thanks for the warm ...
                  Wed Jun 8 18:27:43 PDT 2011
Wed Jun 8 18:27:43 PDT 2011




jodyms            RT @Freshwidow: I wonder if shrinks can offer some insight as to when ppl in
                  shock from catastrophic dx can best receive #HPM intro?
                  Wed Jun 8 18:27:53 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @Freshwidow: Can shrinks offer some insight as to when ppl in shock from
                  catastrophic dx can best receive #HPM intro? cc @DrShock #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:27:59 PDT 2011




elderpages        @jfclearywisc Do you have link to some of James Tulsky's work? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:27:59 PDT 2011




DrSnit            Many fear if they don't have "hope" or a act a certain way during the illness process
                  they WILL be abandoned. Who teaches us to die? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:28:13 PDT 2011




uvmer             @jfclearywisc Actually before initial surgery. Never spoke of it again. In the end ability
                  to speak was gone, but knew what I had to do #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:28:29 PDT 2011




aliciabloom       @Freshwidow i believe #palliative care clinicians can help patients & families cope
                  with catastrophic diagnosis. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:28:29 PDT 2011




VillageMemorial   @aliciabloom Good points. Planning is vital. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:28:32 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   Along w/ your songs!RT @drseisenberg: I had to listen listen listen and then listen.
                  Then gently talk about what we need to do next. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:28:34 PDT 2011




jodyms            RT @DrSnit: Many fear if they don't have "hope" or a act a certain way during the
                  illness process they WILL be abandoned. Who teaches us to die? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:28:34 PDT 2011




Freshwidow        Yes, one really must use holistic, positive language. Like SISTER/BROTHER...
                  navigator. @jodyms: @ctsinclair #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:28:37 PDT 2011




MatthewsMichele   RT @aliciabloom: @Freshwidow i believe #palliative care clinicians can help
                  patients & families cope with catastrophic diagnosis. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:28:50 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      RT @ctsinclair: @jfclearywisc Would love health care to really focus on informed
                  consent. Bet u bought ur house w/o reading fineprint #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:28:51 PDT 2011




HumpbacksRule     #hpm Hi all, Late to the party, but lurking :) Ro here- Research nurse, hospice
                  volunteer.
                  Wed Jun 8 18:28:53 PDT 2011




JohnGirdwood      Huh? Confused RT @hollyby: @jfclearywisc patients on hospice continue palliative
JohnGirdwood   Huh? Confused RT @hollyby: @jfclearywisc patients on hospice continue palliative
               chemo, don't necessarily d/c anticancer therapy. #hpm
               Wed Jun 8 18:28:57 PDT 2011




Gregmogel      wow. “@revdoc: T1 Maybe we need doulas (sp?) for death as well as for birthing?
               #hpm”
               Wed Jun 8 18:29:05 PDT 2011




jodyms         At the cancer centers I've seen the #HPM department is off and away....down a hall,
               on the top floor, set aside. Let's start there.
               Wed Jun 8 18:29:12 PDT 2011




elderpages     @aliciabloom has hope to trend on twitter! David Casarret's book Last Acts is all
               about what people choose to do in final weeks. #hpm
               Wed Jun 8 18:29:17 PDT 2011




uvmer          Sorry, my computer needs hospice! In slo-mo tonight. #hpm
               Wed Jun 8 18:29:21 PDT 2011




equijada       @DrSnit don't think dying has to be taught...just experienced. #hpm
               Wed Jun 8 18:29:24 PDT 2011




JoshGriffin    RT @ctsinclair: @jodyms RE: Non-abandoner - we need more negatives in there. I
               am a non-anti-abandoning unavoider. ;-) #hpm
               Wed Jun 8 18:29:38 PDT 2011




TreatThePain   RT @painpolicy: 15 year old girl w/ terminal cancer has made a bucket list. One of
               her wishes: to trend on Twitter. Plz give a RT #alicebucketlist #hpm
               Wed Jun 8 18:29:44 PDT 2011




ctsinclair     RT @DrSnit: Many fear if they dont have "hope" or a act a certain way during illness
               they WILL be abandoned. Who teaches us to die? #hpm
               Wed Jun 8 18:29:50 PDT 2011




hellen177      RT @uvmer: As care giver to my partner w/a brain tumor, an early conversation & an
               advanced directive were key.Knew then the path I was to follow. #hpm
               Wed Jun 8 18:29:50 PDT 2011




hollyby        @JohnGirdwood Which part? #hpm
               Wed Jun 8 18:29:54 PDT 2011




ctsinclair     @DrSnit I see many patients who deny symptoms because they don't want people to
               think anti-cancer treatments are failing. #hpm
               Wed Jun 8 18:30:16 PDT 2011




joshgriffin    RT @ctsinclair: RT @DrSnit: Many fear if they dont have "hope" or a act a certain way
               during illness they WILL be abandoned. Who teaches us to die? #hpm
               Wed Jun 8 18:30:24 PDT 2011




equijada       “@jodyms: At the cancer centers I've seen the #HPM department is off &
               away....down a hall, on the top floor, set aside..start there.” Amen
               Wed Jun 8 18:30:26 PDT 2011
vj_CR             @DrSnit mmmm I don´t think you can be taught on how to die.... probably it´s part of
                  the journey.... #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:30:39 PDT 2011




MatthewsMichele   I agree wholeheartedly! RT @equijada: @DrSnit dont think dying has to be
                  taught...just experienced. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:30:56 PDT 2011




aliciabloom       @elderpages absolutely-- lovely stories in the book. i have a signed copy:) worked
                  with dr. casarret when i was at penn. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:30:58 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @uvmer: Sorry, my computer needs hospice! In slo-mo tonight. "C'mon
                  computer, you can do it!" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:30:58 PDT 2011




DrSnit            @equijada :) That's like saying birth is natural- just go push sweetie. Death and
                  illness are a process. We NEED EACH OTHER. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:30:58 PDT 2011




PinkRibbonBlues   RT @DrSnit Many fear if they don't have "hope" or a act a certain way during the
                  illness process they WILL be abandoned. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:30:59 PDT 2011




Freshwidow        @aliciabloom But we resist when we are marshalling 100% to get thru 1st therapy,
                  research.... etc. We create our disease mindset... #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:31:04 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   Wonder Why? RT @jodyms: all cancer centers Ive seen #HPM depar is off
                  away.down a hall, on the top floor, set aside. Lets start there. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:31:15 PDT 2011




MarksPhone        @ctsinclair well said and I've seen that as well but I think it is a way for them to feel
                  hope #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:31:16 PDT 2011




jodyms            RT @ctsinclair @DrSnit ..many patients who deny symptoms because they don't
                  want people to think anti-cancer treatments are failing. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:31:22 PDT 2011




equijada          @DrSnit @equijada true that. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:31:33 PDT 2011




revdoc            @equijada @DrSnit But once U have the exper, U can't teach others except
                  passively. We can teach "how to die well" w/ our global exps. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:31:36 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @equijada: dont think dying has to be taught...just experienced. "disagree, I
                  teach patients/families what others have taught me" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:31:51 PDT 2011




ihatebreastcanc   RT @jodyms: RT @ctsinclair @DrSnit ..many patients who deny symptoms because
ihatebreastcanc   RT @jodyms: RT @ctsinclair @DrSnit ..many patients who deny symptoms because
                  they don't want people to think anti-cancer treatments are failing. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:31:56 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   Both can be scary/PainfulRT @DrSnit: @equijadaThats like saying birth is natural-
                  just go push sweetie. Death/illness are a process. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:32:04 PDT 2011




HumpbacksRule     RT @ctsinclair: RT @equijada: dont think dying has to be taught...just experienced.
                  "disagree, I teach patients/families what others have taught me" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:32:29 PDT 2011




equijada          @ctsinclair true #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:32:32 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @MarksPhone Agreed, it is a complex phenomenon that has effects on the
                  individual and the team around them #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:32:36 PDT 2011




drseisenberg      yep RT @jodyms @ctsinclair @DrSnit ..many patients who deny symptoms because
                  they dont want people to think anti-cancer tx are failing. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:32:40 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      RT @ctsinclair: dont think dying has to be taught...just experienced. "disagree, I
                  teach patients/families what others have taught me" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:32:42 PDT 2011




vj_CR             @jfclearywisc @ctsinclair in Lat Am informed consents differ quite a lot from the
                  ones used in the states #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:32:58 PDT 2011




VillageMemorial   Anyone else attending this Friday's Statewide #Palliative Care Conference in
                  Portland OR? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:32:58 PDT 2011




jodyms            @PracticalWisdom @drsnit Both are SCARY. Control freaks like myself want to
                  know: how does this work?? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:33:04 PDT 2011




MarksPhone        @ctsinclair I think before dying someone needs to teach patients about acceptance
                  to face what is there. That is difficult #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:33:14 PDT 2011




elderpages        Wondering how patients are feeling abandoned and what they would like by way of
                  support. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:33:46 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @jodyms Ha! At our hospital the palliative medicine department is on top floor down
                  a...dead end. Never realized till you said that. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:33:48 PDT 2011




hollyby           I'm not sure that teaching dying is the right term, maybe guiding people through the
                  process, since each person's path is different. #hpm
process, since each person's path is different. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:33:53 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   Think need 4 All! RT @jodyms: @PracticalWisdom @drsnit Both are SCARY. Control
                  freaks like myself want to know: how does this work?? #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:33:57 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @vj_CR In what way are informed consents different? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:34:04 PDT 2011




MarksPhone        Remember in our live we learn through experiences and reflect on them this is a
                  different learning we may not have time to reflect #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:34:17 PDT 2011




drseisenberg      RT @MarksPhone @ctsinclair I think before dying someone needs to teach patients
                  about acceptance to face what is there. Difficult #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:34:21 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @equijada And it is not so much telling them this is the way to die well, but here are
                  how other families/patients coped well. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:34:36 PDT 2011




jodyms            RT @drseisenberg: RT @MarksPhone @ctsinclair I think before dying someone
                  needs to teach patients about acceptance to face what is there. Difficult #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:34:40 PDT 2011




joshgriffin       RT @hollyby: I'm not sure that teaching dying is the right term, maybe guiding people
                  through the process, since each person's path is different. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:34:46 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   @jodyms @PracticalWisdom @drsnit When people understand many times helps
                  lower anxiety. This certainly is good for Body/Soul/Mind/Famiy #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:34:49 PDT 2011




uvmer             @ctsinclair Wicked scary!!! I wanted to be the caregiver through the entire process,
                  and they were wonderful support givers. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:34:49 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @equijada The main theme to healthy coping with illness is adaptation. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:35:05 PDT 2011




Freshwidow        I strongly disagree - Pt, family, etc, can B learn that death is one real outcome. /
                  @vj_cr don´t think u can be taught how 2 die.. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:35:06 PDT 2011




elderpages        RT @MarksPhone: Remember in our lives we learn thru experiences and reflect on
                  them. This learning we may not have time to reflect #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:35:09 PDT 2011




HumpbacksRule     #hpm Dying is a lot of work for pt & caregiver. Talking, sharing & teaching are very
                  important. Helps w the 'control freak' to some degree.
                  Wed Jun 8 18:35:09 PDT 2011
DrSnit            Even knowing others have been through the process before & talking it through
                  leaves breadcrumbs. This matters! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:35:31 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @MarksPhone: we learn through experiences and reflect on them; this is a
                  different learning we may not have time to reflect #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:35:34 PDT 2011




jodyms            @ctsinclair @equiljada We can't ever forget the entire family context and the cultural
                  context. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:35:34 PDT 2011




aliciabloom       @Freshwidow hear that & yet believe if pt's know what #palliative care is (enhances
                  QoL & can improve survival) they would be receptive #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:35:44 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      RT @vj_CR: @jfclearywisc @ctsinclair in Lat Am informed consents differ quite a lot
                  "not just the forms, a true discussion!" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:35:54 PDT 2011




MarksPhone        What action on reflection does one take when told terminal? That is the step that is
                  critical to learn how to die. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:36:05 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   Again also helps patient.RT @jodyms: @ctsinclair @equiljada We cant ever forget
                  the entire family context and the cultural context. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:36:14 PDT 2011




drseisenberg      RT @HumpbacksRule: #hpm Dying is a lot of work for pt & caregiver. Talking,
                  sharing & teaching are very important. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:36:17 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @DesiChicInPA: @ctsinclair we have navi's in neuroscience/brain malignancy,
                  surgical oncology, lung and esophageal, geriatrics. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:36:26 PDT 2011




vj_CR             @MarksPhone @ctsinclair sometimes patients accept the reality and their families
                  don´t. Then they are the ones to be taught #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:36:28 PDT 2011




uvmer             Offered the opportunity to meet with someone about end of life care at MGH...way too
                  early in our fight. Still were clinging to hope #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:36:33 PDT 2011




Freshwidow        NO. Dying is a family and community process. NOT just one experience. @drsnit -- /
                  @equijada: dont think dying has to be taught... #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:36:45 PDT 2011




vj_CR             RT @hollyby: I'm not sure that teaching dying is the right term, maybe guiding people
                  through the process, since each person's path is different. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:36:45 PDT 2011
ctsinclair        @vj_CR So true #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:36:50 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      RT @hollyby: I'm not sure that teaching dying is the right term, "Doctor" = teacher
                  (was that my Latin class?) #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:36:57 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   RT @vj_CR: @MarksPhone @ctsinclair sometimes patients accept the reality and
                  their families don´t. Then they are the ones to be taught #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:37:04 PDT 2011




revdoc            We can demystify the mechanics of the dying process so that pts/fams are then free
                  to concentrate on meaning/deal w/emotional cmpts #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:37:04 PDT 2011




MarksPhone        @vj_CR Great point how to balance family and pateint because that is journey they
                  are on #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:37:11 PDT 2011




elderpages        RT @MarksPhone: What action on reflection does one take when told terminal? That
                  is the step that is critical to learn how to die. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:37:20 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   RT @MarksPhone: @vj_CR Great point how to balance family and pateint because
                  that is journey they are on #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:37:33 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @uvmer Was that how it was said 'talking to someone about end of life care?' Being
                  a palliative doc, always curious how HPM introduced #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:37:41 PDT 2011




equijada          RT @uvmer: Offered the opportunity to meet with someone about end of life care at
                  MGH...way too early in our fight. Still were clinging to hope #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:37:46 PDT 2011




jodyms            Dying is a group experience, agree @ Freshwidow NO. Dying is a family and
                  community process. NOT just one experience #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:37:48 PDT 2011




drseisenberg      What can med oncs do to support #cancer patients if treatments not working? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:37:53 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @revdoc: We can demystify the mechanics of the dying process so pts/fams are
                  free to concentrate on meaning/deal w/emotional cmpts #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:38:02 PDT 2011




revdoc            Type slower--you guys are making me dizzy tonight! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:38:05 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   @Freshwidow: What is one lesson you would like for us to hear from you tonight.
                  This is a caring group and we are open to learning. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:38:19 PDT 2011
Wed Jun 8 18:38:19 PDT 2011




equijada          @uvmer how was it introduced? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:38:21 PDT 2011




Freshwidow        Absitively! RT @drsnit: Even knowing others have been through the process before &
                  talking it through leaves breadcrumbs. This matters! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:38:26 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      Has anyone analysed #hpm tweetchats to examine prevelance of the word "hope"
                  Comes up over & over #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:38:34 PDT 2011




elderpages        RT @revdoc: We can demystify the mechanics of dying...T: Our webpage on "Last
                  Few Days" is one of most visited! http://bit.ly/mfenFJ #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:38:35 PDT 2011




HumpbacksRule     #hpm I think every1 is different on when/where/how they are ready to discuss the
                  process. Gotta start where the pt is.
                  Wed Jun 8 18:38:38 PDT 2011




jodyms            @revdoc If you're dizzy - imagine me....I am crazed #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:38:43 PDT 2011




VillageMemorial   Dr. Erik Fromme always puts on a great talk at every #Palliative Care Conference.
                  Looking forward to Friday's event in Portland. #pdx #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:38:51 PDT 2011




revdoc            @drseisenberg Either construct a palliative care plan for your pts (and know what
                  you're doing) or consult HPM EARLY #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:39:00 PDT 2011




jodyms            YES @PracticalWisdom @Freshwidow: What is one lesson you would like for us to
                  hear from you .. we are open to learning. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:39:26 PDT 2011




equijada          @jfclearywisc interesting, I was just thinking that and how I used hope 10 years ago
                  compared to now #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:39:36 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @MarksPhone: What action on reflection does one take when told terminal? "I
                  have seen as a time of immense growth" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:39:40 PDT 2011




Freshwidow        But you are treating this as a RATIONAL factual problem. It's NOT. RT @aliciabloom:
                  if pts know what #palliative is they'd B receptive #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:39:40 PDT 2011




vj_CR             @ctsinclair after I read the first ICF in english I was surprised to see how down to
                  the facts it was #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:39:45 PDT 2011
elderpages        RT @MarksPhone: @vj_CR Great point how to balance family and pateint because
                  that is journey they are on #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:39:50 PDT 2011



drseisenberg      RT @HumpbacksRule: #hpm I think every1 is different on when/where/how they are
                  ready 2 discuss process. Gotta start where the pt is. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:39:55 PDT 2011




JoshGriffin       RT @jodyms: Dying is a group experience, agree @ Freshwidow NO. Dying is a
                  family and community process. NOT just one experience #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:39:57 PDT 2011




vj_CR             RT @MarksPhone: Remember in our live we learn through experiences and reflect
                  on them this is a different learning we may not have time to reflect #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:39:57 PDT 2011




jodyms            RT @drseisenberg: What can med oncs do to support #cancer patients if treatments
                  not working? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:40:05 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @revdoc: Type slower--you guys are making me dizzy tonight! "that's because
                  this chat is a rockin! Having a great time!" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:40:18 PDT 2011




MarksPhone        @HumpbacksRule I totally agree where is the patient? w/o having studied it there is
                  a tipping point in understanding which happens #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:40:33 PDT 2011




equijada          @VillageMemorial I heart Erik. Please send him my regards. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:40:43 PDT 2011




aliciabloom       we educate patients & families about dying process to support acceptance & guide
                  the experience. never forget every process is unique. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:40:53 PDT 2011




DrSnit            @HumpbacksRule You and @Freshwidow are SO SO SO on tonight with your
                  insight!!!! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:40:53 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   @Freshwidow Would you like for us to learn one lesson? I"m sure we can slow
                  down to listen. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:41:09 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      RT @drseisenberg: What can med oncs do to support #cancer patients if treatments
                  not working? "Define goal of therapy early!!" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:41:10 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @jfclearywisc: Anyone analysed #hpm tweetchats to examine prevelance of the
                  word "hope" Comes up over & over "I have transcripts!" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:41:14 PDT 2011




authordhallman    #hpm A lesson - coordinate well the various care services so family can focus on
                  patient.
authordhallman
                  patient.
                  Wed Jun 8 18:41:15 PDT 2011




DoctorFisher      Just ordered "The Art of Dying" by my friend @mollrob looking forward to reading it
                  #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:41:19 PDT 2011




joshgriffin       RT @ctsinclair: RT @revdoc: Type slower--you guys are making me dizzy tonight!
                  "that's because this chat is a rockin! Having a great time!" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:41:22 PDT 2011




revdoc            @drseisenberg Have a sx mgmt assessment and plan for every pt every visit--as
                  important as what CTX does pt need #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:41:26 PDT 2011




jodyms            @drseisenberg My thought - patients/familys are afraid that their PCP & med onc will
                  abandon them. Period. #hpm Very real.
                  Wed Jun 8 18:41:32 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @DrSnit: @HumpbacksRule You and @Freshwidow are SO SO SO on tonight
                  with your insight!!!! "Seconded!" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:41:36 PDT 2011




elderpages        RT @authordhallman: #hpm A lesson - coordinate well the various care services so
                  family can focus on patient. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:41:40 PDT 2011




equijada          @DrSnit @HumpbacksRule @Freshwidow I learn so much from you. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:41:52 PDT 2011




HumpbacksRule     Thanks! >> @DrSnit @Freshwidow You and @Freshwidow are SO SO SO on tonight
                  with your insight!!!! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:41:56 PDT 2011




vj_CR             @MarksPhone balance when you are not sick is hard enough...... imagine when you
                  are #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:41:57 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   Thank you for this lesson.RT @authordhallman: #hpm A lesson - coordinate well the
                  various care services so family can focus on patient. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:41:58 PDT 2011




hellen177         RT @uvmer: Offered the opportunity to meet with someone about end of life care at
                  MGH...way too early in our fight. Still were clinging to hope #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:41:58 PDT 2011




MarksPhone        @ctsinclair That is a great point how can we quantify it so we can understand it
                  better #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:42:10 PDT 2011




vj_CR             RT @revdoc: Type slower--you guys are making me dizzy tonight! #hpm | hehe me
                  too!!!!
                  Wed Jun 8 18:42:24 PDT 2011
LJaneTn           @jodyms #HPM fear is often the place where patients start.
                  Wed Jun 8 18:42:26 PDT 2011




drseisenberg      RT @vj_CR: @MarksPhone balance when you are not sick is hard enough......
                  imagine when you are #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:42:38 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   It's one of the reasons I respect all of you. RT @equijada: @DrSnit
                  @HumpbacksRule @Freshwidow I learn so much from you. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:42:40 PDT 2011




DrSnit            @jodyms agreed! @drseisenberg Fear of abandonment and guilt is far bigger than
                  fear of pain #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:42:43 PDT 2011




jodyms            We need a reality-based hope in #HPM @ctsinclair MT @jfclearywisc ..prevelance of
                  the word "hope" Comes up over & over
                  Wed Jun 8 18:42:44 PDT 2011




drseisenberg      RT @LJaneTn: @jodyms #HPM fear is often the place where patients start. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:42:51 PDT 2011




uvmer             @ctsinclair To us,knew prognosis was grim but there are always miracles out
                  there.Once end of life care came up,hour glass was running #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:42:58 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @revdoc: @drseisenberg Have a sx mgmt assessment and plan for every pt
                  every visit--as important as what CTX does pt need "Yup!" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:42:59 PDT 2011




VillageMemorial   We like to remember Kubler-Ross' DABDA doesn't always happen in order. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:43:10 PDT 2011




equijada          I think we need to have a journal club on hope/hubris. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:43:24 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @revdoc @drseisenberg But important to realize the oncologist may have enough to
                  do with just focusing on the anti-cancer treatment #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:43:28 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   Profound~such an important Factor! RT @vj_CR: @MarksPhone balance when you
                  are not sick is hard enough...... imagine when you are #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:43:30 PDT 2011




aliciabloom       sometimes we have to help patients & families reframe their hope. there are many
                  kinds of healing. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:43:33 PDT 2011




DrSnit            RT @LJaneTn: @jodyms #HPM fear is often the place where patients start.
                  Wed Jun 8 18:43:42 PDT 2011
Wed Jun 8 18:43:42 PDT 2011




hollyby           RT @jodyms: We need a reality-based hope in #HPM @ctsinclair MT @jfclearywisc
                  ..prevelance of the word "hope" Comes up over & over #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:43:48 PDT 2011




elderpages        RT @equijada: I think we need to have a journal club on hope/hubris. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:43:50 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   G8 Idea RT @equijada: I think we need to have a journal club on hope/hubris. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:43:52 PDT 2011




jodyms            @drseisenberg @LJaneTn That is true and sounds good but it boils down to things
                  like this: who helps and when? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:44:18 PDT 2011




jodyms            EXCELLENT RT @PracticalWisdom G8 Idea RT @equijada: I think we need to have
                  a journal club on hope/hubris. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:44:39 PDT 2011




ihatebreastcanc   @drseisenberg #cancer Be honest, don't give false hope. Know patient's grasp of
                  his/her disease. Don't wail til very late for eol talk #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:44:40 PDT 2011




hollyby           RT @aliciabloom: sometimes we have to help patients & families reframe their
                  hope. there are many kinds of healing. '...and miracles' #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:44:41 PDT 2011




elderpages        RT @DrSnit: RT @LJaneTn: @jodyms #HPM fear is often the place where patients
                  start....T: What helps move to acceptance/transcendence? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:44:45 PDT 2011




Pallimed          Articles on miracles and spirituality/religion in health care from Pallimed
                  http://hpm.md/k98Z6D cc@uvmer #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:44:45 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      @uvmer @ctsinclair Miracles can come in many shapes and forms! "What do you
                  mean by a miracle" is a teachable questions to residents #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:44:45 PDT 2011




JohnGirdwood      http://ow.ly/1tC6qX RT @ctsinclair: RT @jfclearywisc: Anyone analysed #hpm
                  tweetchats to examine prevelance of the word "hope"
                  Wed Jun 8 18:44:48 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   RT @aliciabloom: sometimes we have to help patients & families reframe their
                  hope. there are many kinds of healing. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:44:52 PDT 2011




DrSnit            @VillageMemorial I like to remember that though I adore her, Kubler-Ross's DABDA
                  doesn't happen for everyone and is culturally bound. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:45:02 PDT 2011
"@revdoc: T1 Maybe we need doulas (sp?) for death as well as for birthing?
Satchwill         #hpm">excellent idea!
                  Wed Jun 8 18:45:08 PDT 2011




aliciabloom       @hollyby so true! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:45:23 PDT 2011




revdoc            @ctsinclair @drseisenberg Then involve a dedicated HPM consultant in process
                  before the active tx "fails" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:45:27 PDT 2011




uvmer             @equijada At end of an office visit....kinda "oh, by the way, would you like to
                  participate in an end of life discussion w/ some docs...#hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:45:39 PDT 2011




VillageMemorial   Anyone in the group attending funeral of Dr. #Kevorkian this Friday? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:45:41 PDT 2011




Intlphysicians    RT @fischmd: symptom science website: ECOG Symptom Outcomes and Practice
                  Patterns (SOAPP) study, ecogsoapp.com, http://ow.ly/5dlKQ , #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:46:16 PDT 2011




drseisenberg      RT @revdoc: @ctsinclair @drseisenberg Then involve a dedicated HPM consultant
                  in process before the active tx "fails" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:46:16 PDT 2011




LJaneTn           @jodyms #HPM existential fear dominates- strikes at the heart of hope
                  Wed Jun 8 18:46:18 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      #alicebucketlist hit 1.43% of tweets for last 24 hours at 1730 CDT #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:46:22 PDT 2011




aliciabloom       we also need to be clear about what a "successful" treatment is-- patients often
                  assume success = cure, which may not be the case. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:46:23 PDT 2011




uvmer             @equijada Absolutely scared the shit out of us. Neither one of us could speak, and
                  finally I said no thank you. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:46:31 PDT 2011




GroundSwellAus    sorry I'm chiming in late I just wanted to happy birthday pallimed #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:46:31 PDT 2011




elderpages        Dr. Casarret suggests talking first about deliverables of hospice (nurse visits, aide
                  visits, SW). Once buy-in, then mention hospice. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:46:43 PDT 2011




equijada          RT @uvmer: @equijada At end of an office visit....kinda "oh, by the way, would you
                  like to participate in an end of life discussion w/ some docs...#hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:46:46 PDT 2011
Wed Jun 8 18:46:46 PDT 2011




drseisenberg      RT @LJaneTn: @jodyms #HPM existential fear dominates- strikes at the heart of
                  hope #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:46:49 PDT 2011




HumpbacksRule     #hpm @LJaneTn @jodyms Absolutely & sometimes fear looks like something else.
                  Have to listen to pt>> fear is often the place where patients..
                  Wed Jun 8 18:46:53 PDT 2011




MarksPhone        Long ago in oncology pharma adriamycin nationally recognized oncologist said as
                  did Jimmie Holland every cancer patient reacts diff #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:46:55 PDT 2011




jodyms            The things I'm learning: I've never heard of a #HPM consultant.
                  Wed Jun 8 18:47:08 PDT 2011




equijada          @uvmer yes, I would not accept that either. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:47:09 PDT 2011




ihatebreastcanc   RT @ctsinclair: RT @revdoc: We can demystify the mechanics of the dying process
                  so pts/fams are free to concentrate on meaning/deal w/emotional cmpts #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:47:14 PDT 2011




elderpages        RT @aliciabloom: we need to define "successful" treatment is-- patients often
                  assume success = cure, which may not be the case. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:47:16 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   Wise RT @aliciabloom: we also need 2 B clear what a "successful" treatment is
                  patients often assume success = cure may not be the case. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:47:17 PDT 2011




JohnGirdwood      Good thought, i'm nearby RT @VillageMemorial: Anyone in the group attending
                  funeral of Dr. #Kevorkian this Friday? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:47:33 PDT 2011




VillageMemorial   @DrSnit Can you talk about the cultural differences of DABDA? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:47:34 PDT 2011




hollyby           Yahoo! RT @GroundSwellAus: sorry Im chiming in late I just wanted to happy
                  birthday pallimed #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:47:35 PDT 2011




Freshwidow        Absolutely. RT @drseisenberg: involve a dedicated HPM consultant in process
                  before the active tx "fails" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:47:37 PDT 2011




Pallimed          RT @GroundSwellAus: sorry I'm chiming in late I just wanted to happy birthday
                  pallimed #hpm "Hey thanks! 6 years of blogging!"
                  Wed Jun 8 18:47:38 PDT 2011




ihatebreastcanc   RT @ctsinclair: RT @DrSnit: Many fear if they dont have "hope" or a act a certain way
ihatebreastcanc   RT @ctsinclair: RT @DrSnit: Many fear if they dont have "hope" or a act a certain way
                  during illness they WILL be abandoned. Who teaches us to die? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:47:50 PDT 2011




Gregmogel         RT @LJaneTn: @jodyms #HPM fear is often the place where patients start.
                  Wed Jun 8 18:47:55 PDT 2011




BCSisterhood      @jodyms Loved one diequickly vs prolonged illness-shock of 1st way mind blowing
                  & 2nd u have time to prepare. Lost husbands 2 each way. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:48:09 PDT 2011




drseisenberg      RT @MarksPhone: Long ago nationally recognized oncologist said as did Jimmie
                  Holland every cancer patient reacts diff #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:48:10 PDT 2011




uvmer             @equijada It was tough. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:48:16 PDT 2011




DrSnit            @jodyms I get DM's all the time from patients in need of hospice and have NO IDEA
                  where to go or how to deal with it. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:48:16 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @jodyms: The things Im learning: Ive never heard of a #HPM consultant. 'Really!?
                  I'm one! Seeing more patients ask for us." #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:48:23 PDT 2011




revdoc            @Pallimed Happy birthday! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:48:26 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   Like the thought of analyzing Tweetchat afterward. Learned a great deal of ways I
                  could improve/listen better as moderator after chat #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:48:34 PDT 2011




vj_CR             @Freshwidow sorry.... I forgot the #hpm .... I get your point..... just think teach is no
                  the word....
                  Wed Jun 8 18:48:46 PDT 2011




equijada          @Gregmogel @LJaneTn @jodyms Fear. I personally have a lot of it. I'm learning and
                  growing. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:48:50 PDT 2011




DrSnit            @VillageMemorial We are in a chat right now. Using the #hpm hastag. Will talk later.
                  Thanks.
                  Wed Jun 8 18:48:52 PDT 2011




GroundSwellAus    @Pallimed 6 years! wow! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:48:56 PDT 2011




HumpbacksRule     Such a good point. @DrSnit @VillageMemorial I like to remember that though I
                  adore her, Kubler-Ross's DABDA doesn't...#hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:49:02 PDT 2011
RT @elderpages @aliciabloom we need to define "successful" treatment- patients
PinkRibbonBlues   often assume success = cure, which may not be the case. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:49:03 PDT 2011




JohnGirdwood      Volunteers too!!! RT @elderpages: Dr. Casarret suggests talking first about
                  deliverables of hospice (nurse visits, aide visits, SW). #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:49:15 PDT 2011




aliciabloom       effective conversations re: #hospice don't start w/ word. can't drop the "h-bomb" right
                  away. establish goals & determine needs 1st. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:49:18 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   They trust U.RT @DrSnit: @jodyms I get DMs all the time from pt's in need of
                  hospice have NO IDEA where to go or how to deal with it. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:49:18 PDT 2011




jodyms            My thought is if more survivors understand this - when we're well - the mystery is
                  easier to accept when it does happen #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:49:32 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @DrSnit: I get DMs all the time from patients in need of #hospice & have NO
                  IDEA where to go or how to deal with it. "wow!" really?" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:49:40 PDT 2011




uvmer             @BCSisterhood Strongly disagree! Can not prepare for the loss of someone you
                  have spent your whole adult life with, and watch them die. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:49:55 PDT 2011




elderpages        RT @vj_CR: @Freshwidow I get your point..... just think teach is no the word.... T:
                  Exploring? Sharing? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:50:06 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @DrSnit There are a ton of us in social media who can help you with your hospice
                  referral challenge. I would love to tackle this. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:50:15 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      @ctsinclair @jodyms COnsultant=Attending in many commonwealth countries
                  #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:50:31 PDT 2011




hollyby           @jodyms Ppl need to know we focus on whole person & symptom control, & may
                  even help people complete symptom-causing curative therapy. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:50:37 PDT 2011




vj_CR             @PracticalWisdom so true! #hpm and I think it´s part of the tweetchat point, trying to
                  learn from it
                  Wed Jun 8 18:50:39 PDT 2011




DrSnit            @ctsinclair YES PLEASE #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:50:43 PDT 2011




revdoc            @aliciabloom Onc needs to make HPM part of the initial tx plan for anyone with
revdoc            @aliciabloom Onc needs to make HPM part of the initial tx plan for anyone with
                  incurable dz, tho, so there is no big "give up" later #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:50:47 PDT 2011



drseisenberg      Every single one reacted sooooo differently today #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:51:00 PDT 2011




jodyms            Critical issue: T4: How do we share the #hpm mission to those in need of hospice?
                  Don't we all have a responsibility?
                  Wed Jun 8 18:51:04 PDT 2011




elderpages        RT @aliciabloom: effective conversations re: #hospice cant drop the "h-bomb" first.
                  establish goals & determine needs 1st...T: YES! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:51:13 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @vj_CR so you don't have to forget the #hpm use http://Tweetchat.com/room/hpm
                  #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:51:13 PDT 2011




jodyms            RT @ctsinclair: @DrSnit There are a ton of us in social media who can help you with
                  your hospice referral challenge. I would love to tackle this. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:51:18 PDT 2011




MarksPhone        if you look at #hcsmvac they are using a grass roots SM effort to increase flu vac
                  rates in MO can we model that idea about hospice? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:51:28 PDT 2011




GroundSwellAus    is there no "peak" org in the US that has a listing of all hospice? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:51:28 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      !!!@aliciabloom Onc needs to make HPM part of the initial tx plan for anyone with
                  incurable dz, tho, so there is no big "give up" later #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:51:35 PDT 2011




equijada          @DrSnit @ctsinclair let me know as well. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:51:38 PDT 2011




HumpbacksRule     RT @revdoc: @aliciabloom Onc needs to make HPM part of the initial tx plan for
                  anyone with incurable dz, tho, so there is no big "give up" later #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:51:46 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @drseisenberg: Every single one reacted sooooo differently today "That can be
                  emotionally draining." #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:51:53 PDT 2011




mollrob           RT @DoctorFisher Just ordered "The Art of Dying" by my friend @mollrob looking
                  forward to reading it #hpm // Thanks Doc!
                  Wed Jun 8 18:51:59 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   Continuous Learning.RT @vj_CR: @PracticalWisdom so true! #hpm and I think it´s
                  part of the tweetchat point, trying to learn from it #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:52:05 PDT 2011
aliciabloom       MT @ctsinclair: @DrSnit There are a ton of us in SoMe who can help w/ hospice
                  referral challenge. I would love 2 tackle this. "me too!" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:52:13 PDT 2011



ctsinclair        @MarksPhone Will need to look into #hcsmvac #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:52:15 PDT 2011




jodyms            Great points. I want to write about this @elderpages @aliciabloom: effective
                  conversations re: #hospice..est. goal...t..T: YES! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:52:23 PDT 2011




VillageMemorial   Any thoughts as to how male caregivers feel about being called 'doulas'? Have
                  heard word 'whisperer' being thrown around. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:52:26 PDT 2011




authordhallman    #hpm re T4: that's why I decided to publish "August Farewell", to promote PC
                  education/options
                  Wed Jun 8 18:52:39 PDT 2011




vj_CR             RT @MarksPhone: if you look at #hcsmvac they are using a grass roots SM effort to
                  increase flu vac rates in MO can we model that idea about hospice? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:52:52 PDT 2011




equijada          “@drseisenberg: Every single one reacted sooooo differently today #hpm” Many
                  different pages. Part of the difficulty of transition. .
                  Wed Jun 8 18:52:54 PDT 2011




BCSisterhood      @jodyms Yes, we all have a responsibility & as baby boomers age, we need to
                  reach out & do what we can to help one another. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:52:57 PDT 2011




Pallimed          Find a Provider - The National #Hospice and Palliative Care Organization
                  http://hpm.md/kJY2NZ #hpm cc @GroundSwellAus @DrSnit
                  Wed Jun 8 18:53:02 PDT 2011




jodyms            Ditto - we are all in this together:) @equijada @DrSnit @ctsinclair let me know as
                  well. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:53:08 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      @GroundSwellAus Palliative Coalition. NHPCO, AAHPM, HPNA, CAPC and others.
                  Given state power, no huge Federal peak body (jfclearyaus) #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:53:28 PDT 2011




GroundSwellAus    @Pallimed @DrSnit cheers #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:53:33 PDT 2011




jodyms            RT @Pallimed: Find a Provider - The National #Hospice and Palliative Care
                  Organization http://hpm.md/kJY2NZ #hpm cc @GroundSwellAus @DrSnit
                  Wed Jun 8 18:53:59 PDT 2011




joegormally       RT @aliciabloom: stop perpetuating the everything/treatment vs. nothing/hospice
joegormally       RT @aliciabloom: stop perpetuating the everything/treatment vs. nothing/hospice
                  dichotomy #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:54:03 PDT 2011



VillageMemorial   RT @Pallimed: Find a Provider - The National #Hospice and Palliative Care
                  Organization http://hpm.md/kJY2NZ #hpm cc @GroundSwellAus @DrSnit
                  Wed Jun 8 18:54:12 PDT 2011




vj_CR             RT @ctsinclair: @vj_CR so you don't have to forget the #hpm use http://bit.ly/b1nePp
                  #hpm || TY :)
                  Wed Jun 8 18:54:15 PDT 2011




hollyby           @Pallimed @GroundSwellAus @DrSnit http://www.palliativedoctors.org/ #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:54:18 PDT 2011




DrSnit            RT @Pallimed: Find a Provider - The National #Hospice and Palliative Care
                  Organization http://hpm.md/kJY2NZ #hpm cc @GroundSwellAus @DrSnit
                  Wed Jun 8 18:54:20 PDT 2011




doctatum          Pulled away by patient issue. Looks like i missed great #hpm chat. Transcript
                  coming?
                  Wed Jun 8 18:54:35 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   RT @vj_CR:RT @MarksPhone: if U look #hcsmvac they R using grass roots SM
                  effort 2 increase flu vac rates MO can we model idea hospice? #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:54:41 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @vj_CR Also makes it easy to favorite, and reply and retweet! Love it! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:54:48 PDT 2011




jodyms            What a lightning talk...so much to say about bridging needs of patients with
                  understanding #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:54:52 PDT 2011




joshgriffin       RT @revdoc: @aliciabloom Onc needs to make HPM part of the initial tx plan for
                  anyone with incurable dz, tho, so there is no big "give up" later #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:54:53 PDT 2011




equijada          @uvmer Sucks. Sorry to hear it rolled that way. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:55:00 PDT 2011




elderpages        Anyone know about Concerns Without Borders? They are doing grassroots palliative
                  care in India. Website not real helpful :-( #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:55:01 PDT 2011




MarksPhone        This topic as a communication strategy needs to be considered by segment
                  Terminal patient vs. not vs. family vs. way before death #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:55:06 PDT 2011




GroundSwellAus    @elderpages yes well! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:55:26 PDT 2011
joegormally       I'm sorry I missed this chat now.. it looked like a great discussion #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:55:38 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   @vj_CR @MarksPhone @doctatum is a Mo MD. #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:55:49 PDT 2011




jodyms            Spot on RT MarksPhone This topic as a communication strategy needs to be
                  considered by .... way before death #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:55:49 PDT 2011




dspacl            Sorry to be getting here late, mates #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:55:55 PDT 2011




GroundSwellAus    @elderpages what do you want to know? #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:56:04 PDT 2011




vj_CR             @ctsinclair thanks! makes it easier :) #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:56:05 PDT 2011




DrSnit            @hollyby thank you @Pallimed both ! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:56:10 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   RT @jodyms: Spot on RT MarksPhone This topic as a communication strategy
                  needs to be considered by .... way before death #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:56:16 PDT 2011




jodyms            We probably need to start wrapping up....loose thoughts, deep thoughts, take away
                  from tonight's #hpm discussion?
                  Wed Jun 8 18:56:20 PDT 2011




InpatientMed      RT @Pallimed: Death doulas in the NY Times from Pallimed: A Hospice and
                  Palliative Medicine Blog http://hpm.md/lSsRkM #hpm cc @revdoc
                  Wed Jun 8 18:56:31 PDT 2011




JoshGriffin       RT @hollyby: @Pallimed @GroundSwellAus @DrSnit
                  http://www.palliativedoctors.org/ #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:56:32 PDT 2011




daitpcg           RT @aliciabloom: effective conversations re: #hospice don't start w/ word. can't drop
                  the "h-bomb" right away. establish goals & determine needs 1st. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:56:34 PDT 2011




MarksPhone        Canadian oncologist told me that we've lost the understanding of death when we
                  moved off the farm. it is not longer part of life 2day #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:56:41 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @doctatum: Pulled away by patient issue. Looks like i missed great #hpm chat.
                  Transcript coming? "Yes" #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:56:44 PDT 2011
Wed Jun 8 18:56:44 PDT 2011




jfclearywisc      @jodyms Well done!! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:56:51 PDT 2011




HumpbacksRule     Yes! >@MarksPhone This topic as a communication strategy needs to be
                  considered by segment Terminal patient vs. not vs. family vs. .... #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:56:54 PDT 2011




elderpages        RT @GroundSwellAus: @elderpages what do you want to know? T: Unable to find
                  detailed description of activities. URL would be great! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:56:56 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        RT @dspacl: Sorry to be getting here late, mates 'no problem, brother!' #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:56:56 PDT 2011




DrSnit            @jodyms WOW! Thank you so so so much for the amazing topics tonight! I've
                  missed you so much!! xo #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:56:59 PDT 2011




dspacl            I have an idea to describe what we do in terms of the latest lexicon of #HCR #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:57:08 PDT 2011




hollyby           @jodyms Thanks so much Jody! Wonderful chat. Thanks to everyone for joining in
                  with all your thoughts! #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:57:52 PDT 2011




jodyms            Wonderful message via @hollyby and others in #HPM: survivors, this is wholistic
                  care...kind and gentle, delivered by incredible people.
                  Wed Jun 8 18:57:52 PDT 2011




dspacl            Goal Oriented = Patient Centered = GO PC #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:57:53 PDT 2011




PracticalWisdom   Confetti Tweetchat Seems 2 me. Agree @Drsnit?RT @dspacl: I have an idea to
                  describe what we do in terms of the latest lexicon of #HCR #HPM
                  Wed Jun 8 18:57:53 PDT 2011




ctsinclair        @aliciabloom Never heard the term 'H-bomb' I am stealing that one. With credit to
                  you of course. #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:57:53 PDT 2011




MarksPhone        That is the issue we are so far removed from death that when we face it it's in our
                  grill We no longer grow up with farm animals dying #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:57:53 PDT 2011




GroundSwellAus    @elderpages http://concernwithoutborders.org/initiatives.htm #hpm
                  Wed Jun 8 18:58:02 PDT 2011




JohnGirdwood      @hollyby hospice patient on chemotherapy? Not where I'm at. Maybe I read it
                  wrong... But at my hospice, no curative on primary dx #hpm
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Helping Patients Transition to Supportive Care: Overcoming Abandonment Fears in Hospice and Palliative Medicine (#hpm

  • 1. #hpm Healthcare Hashtag Twitter Transcript From: Wed Jun 08 18:00:00 PDT 2011 To: Wed Jun 08 19:00:00 PDT 2011 Customize transcript dates and layout Learn more about #hpm at The Healthcare Hashtag Project hollyby For the next hour I'll be tweeting from the #hospice and #palliative medicine tweetchat. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:01:03 PDT 2011 elderpages 15 year old girl who is terminal with cancer has made a bucket list. One of her wishes: to trend on Twitter. Give a RT #alicebucketlist #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:01:09 PDT 2011 jodyms Hello everyone, I'm Jody Schoger and will be moderating tonight's #HPM chat. I'm a cancer survivor, co-survivor, writer and blogger. Wed Jun 8 18:01:10 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc Hi, Joining #hpm from the basement. Major thunderstorms here in Madison, WI. Fingers crossed and praying. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:01:25 PDT 2011 jodyms Who's joining us for tonight's discussion? Please introduce yourself. It's great to be connected with all of you again. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:01:54 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @hollyby: For the next hour Ill be tweeting from the #hospice and #palliative medicine tweetchat. "me too!" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:01:55 PDT 2011 equijada Hi all. Thanks for hosting @jodyms #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:02:13 PDT 2011 hollyby @jfclearywisc Stay safe! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:02:35 PDT 2011 elderpages Nice to "see" you all. I'm a hospice volunteer, research scientist, family caregiver and webmaster committed to community devt via Web #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:02:38 PDT 2011
  • 2. MedicalMarcom I showed up an hour early! Now I know better. Joe Hage, #MedDevice founder, mktg comm for med companies. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:02:52 PDT 2011 jodyms @jfclearywisc @equijada @ctsinclair - greetings! #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:02:57 PDT 2011 authordhallman #hpm - David here. lost my partner to pancreatic cancer 2 wks after diagnosis. Wed Jun 8 18:03:05 PDT 2011 aliciabloom MSW, LSW from @VITASHospice & Palliative Care. #hpm consults, clinical education & program development. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:03:28 PDT 2011 equijada @authordhallman Hi David, welcome. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:03:38 PDT 2011 MedicalMarcom I am looking to meet a HPM professional with experience selling into #HPM orgs + figured y'all would have recos? Wed Jun 8 18:03:57 PDT 2011 hollyby Hello, Holly Yang. HPM doc from @SanDiegoHospice. Interests in international #palliative med, pt care, med ed, SoMe, communication #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:04:11 PDT 2011 Freshwidow Supa, widow blogger, #HPM advocate and family member. Crazy hair. Thanks for hosting, @jodyms! Wed Jun 8 18:04:31 PDT 2011 jodyms Welcome @authorhallman @aliciabloom @medicalmarcom #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:04:32 PDT 2011 DrSnit @jodyms Hey cats! Longtime no see Jodycakes!! Muah!! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:04:46 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom HI I'm Lisa Trainer/Speaker/Creative Connector. Looking forward to @jodyms and the other leaders in #HPM Field #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:04:51 PDT 2011 hollyby As always, all tweets are my own #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:05:08 PDT 2011 drseisenberg Hi there! Steven Eisenberg. Medical oncologist. Lyrical Life guy. I co-write original songs with cancer and hospice patients. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:05:21 PDT 2011 PinkRibbonBlues #HPM Gayle here, medical sociologist, focus on breast cancer culture, industry, advocacy, and survivorship. Love @jodyms Wed Jun 8 18:05:24 PDT 2011
  • 3. doctatum RT @doctatum Paul from Mo. Before the floods hit. On phone. Oops. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:05:27 PDT 2011 ctsinclair Intros: Hello, Christian Sinclair here, Palliative MD @KChospice, Editor @Pallimed, fan of @SportingKC and the new @LiveSTRONGPark #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:05:32 PDT 2011 jodyms I'll asking #HPM questions tonight on behalf of the cancer survivor community. And I'm sure if I misrepresent them we'll hear otherwise:) Wed Jun 8 18:05:32 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc @MedicalMarcom PRobably not tonight given topic is "Abandonment-what patients really feel. Don't mean to abandon you :-) #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:05:41 PDT 2011 jodyms @drsnit @hollyby @practicalwisdom Awesome to see you:) #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:06:00 PDT 2011 uvmer Hi! Lurking in the shadows and might butt in. (: #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:06:10 PDT 2011 MatthewsMichele <--#hospice, #hpm advocate, patient and community empowerment enthusiast! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:06:11 PDT 2011 revdoc RT @ctsinclair: RT @hollyby: For the next hour Ill be tweeting from the #hospice and #palliative medicine tweetchat. "me too!" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:06:34 PDT 2011 MedicalMarcom @jfclearywisc thanks. I'll stick around all the same + meet some new #HPM folks! Wed Jun 8 18:06:41 PDT 2011 DrSnit Me 3 RT @ctsinclair RT @hollyby: For the next hour Ill be tweeting from the #hospice & #palliative medicine tweetchat. "me too" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:06:47 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @hollyby RE: Twwets are my own: Intersting take from @Doctor_V Should We Ditch Social Media Disclaimers? http://hpm.md/lzTW9G #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:06:47 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom Sorry are the floods close? RT @doctatum: RT @doctatum Paul from Mo. Before the floods hit. On phone. Oops. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:06:58 PDT 2011 MatthewsMichele <---oh and #socialmedia junkie! :-) #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:07:20 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @uvmer Hi Nancy, I am sure we will lure you in with some good conversation! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:07:25 PDT 2011
  • 4. jodyms #HPM - Our topic tonight is what patients really fear: abandonment. Abandonment by doctors, friends, and family. Wed Jun 8 18:07:31 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom Thanks excited about tonight. RT @jodyms: @drsnit @hollyby @practicalwisdom Awesome to see you:) #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:07:42 PDT 2011 revdoc Pam Harris MD @KCHospice, ordained minister #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:07:47 PDT 2011 DrSnit RT @jodyms: I'll asking #HPM questions tonight on behalf of the cancer survivor community. And I'm sure if I misrepresent them we'll hear otherwise:) Wed Jun 8 18:08:06 PDT 2011 revdoc @revdoc @KCHospice Tweets are my own #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:08:14 PDT 2011 RossJeanette Hi I'm Jeanette Ross HPM doc associate Fellowship director @uthscsa in san Antonio passionate about teaching. Will lurk tonight #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:08:14 PDT 2011 elderpages @jodyms I would like to hear more about some of those fears. Can you start with a few? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:08:17 PDT 2011 hollyby @ctsinclair It's part of my employer's SoMe policy, I believe, so... I do it. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:08:26 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @PinkRibbonBlues Hi Gayle! Welcome to the chat! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:08:33 PDT 2011 uvmer @ctsinclair Most probably... (: Not the silent type. Thanks. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:08:40 PDT 2011 jodyms So my first T1: how can we work together to help transition patients into healing, supportive care? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:08:42 PDT 2011 equijada RT @jodyms: I'll asking #HPM questions tonight on behalf of the cancer survivor community. And I'm sure if I misrepresent them we'll hear otherwise:) Wed Jun 8 18:09:08 PDT 2011 ctsinclair Just a tip if you do use cancer in your tweet feel free to hashtag it. Some people might be looking for that, and stumble here. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:09:10 PDT 2011 MatthewsMichele RT @jodyms: So my first T1: how can we work together to help transition patients into healing, supportive care? #hpm
  • 5. Wed Jun 8 18:09:11 PDT 2011 hollyby RT @jodyms: So my first T1: how can we work together to help transition patients into healing, supportive care? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:09:13 PDT 2011 JohnGirdwood @ctsinclair I love this #hpm thing so much, almost as much (maybe equally) as watching Tigers or BoSox vs Yankees! Wed Jun 8 18:09:28 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @hollyby: @ctsinclair Its part of my employers SoMe policy, I believe, so... I do it. "good answer!" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:09:31 PDT 2011 jodyms RT @ctsinclair: Just a tip if you do use cancer in your tweet feel free to hashtag it. Some people might be looking for that, and stumble here. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:09:34 PDT 2011 jodyms @uvmer Nancy, you have a lot to add here. I'm glad you've joined us. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:09:59 PDT 2011 andybaldwin @ctsinclair @kchospice @pallimed @sportingkc @hollyby @livestrongpark #hpm hi everyone! Dr. Baldwin here #AskDrAndy Wed Jun 8 18:10:00 PDT 2011 Doctor_V And The Palliatives convene #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:10:19 PDT 2011 elderpages Can you help by clarifying transition from what? Do you mean changing goals of care from curative to comfort? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:10:26 PDT 2011 hollyby @andybaldwin Hi Andy! Great to have you join us! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:10:38 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom RT @jodyms: RT @ctsinclair: Just a tip if you do use cancer in tweet feel free 2 hashtag. # people might B looking4 & stumble here. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:10:44 PDT 2011 DrSnit RT @jodyms: So my first T1: how can we work together to help transition patients into healing, supportive care? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:10:45 PDT 2011 ctsinclair T1 (Clarification) @jodyms Which 'we" did you have in mind with this question? We the chatters, we the social media-ists, etc? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:10:50 PDT 2011 elderpages RT @Doctor_V: And The Palliatives convene...T: Sounds like a backup band :-) #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:11:02 PDT 2011
  • 6. JohnGirdwood I was called to HR before to clear up my use so... RT @hollyby: @ctsinclair It's part of my employer's SoMe policy, so... I do it #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:11:06 PDT 2011 aliciabloom early integration #palliative care brings supportive care throughout the continuum of illness, making it less of an abrupt transition #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:11:14 PDT 2011 uvmer @jodyms Thanks Jody. (: #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:11:16 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom Are you going to join us tonight? That would be great RT @Doctor_V: And The Palliatives convene #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:11:17 PDT 2011 jodyms @elderpages T1: Transition from curative to comfort and supportive. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:11:21 PDT 2011 DrSnit @jodyms Yes yes yes! so glad you're here @uvmer!! xo #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:11:26 PDT 2011 ctsinclair T1: I think healing supportive care should come as part of the package regardless of goals #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:11:38 PDT 2011 equijada t1 prior to working together, I have to be prepared to go into a place that is sacred, scary. Make sure I'm in a good place #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:11:50 PDT 2011 drseisenberg T1: Talk early, talk often and talk authentically about #cancer and hospice. Med oncs just gotta do it. #asco11 #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:11:59 PDT 2011 DoctorFisher Hello Palliators #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:12:02 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @aliciabloom: early integration #palliative care brings supportive care across continuum of illness, making less abrupt transition #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:12:07 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom RT @aliciabloom: early integration #palliative care brings supportive care throughout continuum illness, making it (-) an abrupt trans. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:12:17 PDT 2011 revdoc T1 IMHO we need better training, inservices, curriculum for non-HPM types so that referrals are made by usual MDs, nonthreatening #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:12:20 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @aliciabloom Nice concise statement! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:12:20 PDT 2011
  • 7. PracticalWisdom RT @drseisenberg: T1: Talk early, talk often and talk authentically about #cancer and hospice. Med oncs just gotta do it. #asco11 #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:12:30 PDT 2011 DoctorFisher RT @ctsinclair: T1: I think healing supportive care should come as part of the package regardless of goals #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:12:39 PDT 2011 elderpages Guess I'm in listening mode (questions mode). What would survivors like professionals to do to be more collaborative? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:12:53 PDT 2011 aliciabloom @ctsinclair thanks! i'm getting better at this 140 character thing ;) #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:12:55 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom RT @revdoc: T1 IMHO we need better training, inservices, curriculum for non-HPM types so referrals R made by usual MDs, nonthreatening #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:13:03 PDT 2011 Doctor_V Lurking #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:13:13 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom RT @elderpages: Guess Im in listening mode (questions mode). What would survivors like professionals to do to be more collaborative? #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:13:17 PDT 2011 thinkalot RT @drseisenberg: T1: Talk early, talk often and talk authentically about #cancer and hospice. Med oncs just gotta do it. #asco11 #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:13:29 PDT 2011 jodyms @ctsinclair T1: Understand that the end of life is a big mystery to most cancer patients. Its the chapter in the book we don't read. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:13:43 PDT 2011 ctsinclair T1: Important to address w/ psychology of the patient and the family, seen wide variety of adjustment to illness (some good, some bad) #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:13:47 PDT 2011 hollyby T1: It should not feel like an "either/or" issue. Supportive/palliative care should begin early, regardless of ability to cure. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:13:57 PDT 2011 ihatebreastcanc @jodyms Katherine with bone-only MBC #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:14:10 PDT 2011 drseisenberg Med oncs can become involved with a hospice. Continuity. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:14:24 PDT 2011 DrSnit I'm always intrigued by how afraid and alone people (the patients, the caretakers sometimes even the docs) feel during treatment #hpm
  • 8. Wed Jun 8 18:14:24 PDT 2011 MatthewsMichele RT @elderpages: 15 year old girl who is terminal with cancer has made a bucket list. One of her wishes: to trend on Twitter. Give a RT #alicebucketlist #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:14:25 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @elderpages Yes I would like to here from #cancer survivors as well on this topic. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:14:28 PDT 2011 jodyms @PracticalWisdom @elderpages First we need to make connections between clinical #HPM and survivor communities. Bridge must be constructed. Wed Jun 8 18:14:41 PDT 2011 equijada RT @jodyms: @ctsinclair T1: Understand that the end of life is a big mystery to most cancer patients. Its the chapter in the book we don't read. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:14:42 PDT 2011 jodyms @ihatebreastcanc Thank you for joining us. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:14:59 PDT 2011 ctsinclair T1: the curious challenge is identifying transition points. All stakeholders may have different perceptions of timing. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:14:59 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom RT @ctsinclair: T1: Imp.2 address w/ psychology of pt & family, seen wide variety of adjustment to illness (some good, some bad) #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:15:03 PDT 2011 hollyby RT @ctsinclair: T1: the curious challenge is identifying transition points. All stakeholders may have different perceptions of timing. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:15:28 PDT 2011 elderpages RT @equijada: RT @jodyms: T1: End of life is a big mystery to most cancer patients. Its the chapter in the book we dont read. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:15:34 PDT 2011 DrSnit @uvmer :) so glad you've joined the conversation. Your voice is necessary! xo #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:15:38 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @ihatebreastcanc We really appreciate the perspective of patients and families in this chat. Glad you are here. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:15:47 PDT 2011 MatthewsMichele pls. rt @JohnAmussen: I'm a marrow donor. here's 1 reason why. http://t.co/72Kubdy / #alicebucketlist” me too! www.marrow.org via @mswz #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:15:53 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom RT @jodyms: @PracticalWisdom @elderpages 1st we need 2 make connect Btween clinical #HPM/survivor commu. Bridge must be constructed. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:15:57 PDT 2011
  • 9. elderpages TI: I think part of collaboration is starting where "they/we" are. Families and patients not always on same page as each other. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:16:20 PDT 2011 authordhallman #hpm In Ontario, we benefitted from the coordinating agency that links the PC MDs, community nurses, homemakers for the family’s benefit Wed Jun 8 18:16:23 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc In #cancer & other diseases, do we reduce sense of abandonment with clear definition of goals of care: cure, prolong, palliate #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:16:39 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @hollyby: T1: Shouldn't feel like an "either/or" issue. Supportive/palliative care should begin early, regardless of ability to cure #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:16:50 PDT 2011 JohnGirdwood Like your twitter name : ) RT @jodyms: @ihatebreastcanc Thank you for joining us. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:17:00 PDT 2011 equijada @jodyms how do cancer patients wish to transitioner? As a physician, I slowly push boundaries till I get resistance then back off #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:17:05 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom RT @elderpages: TI: Part of collaboration is starting where "they/we" R. Families/patients not always on same page as each other. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:17:07 PDT 2011 DrSnit @elderpages YES! And even when they ARE on the same page, EMOTIONS come up and people feel like a "failure" for having feelings #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:17:23 PDT 2011 MatthewsMichele T1: End of life is a big mystery to most cancer patients. Its the chapter in the book we dont read. via @jodyms #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:17:24 PDT 2011 aliciabloom stop perpetuating the everything/treatment vs. nothing/hospice dichotomy #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:17:25 PDT 2011 uvmer As care giver to my partner w/a brain tumor, an early conversation & an advanced directive were key.Knew then the path I was to follow. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:17:34 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc RT @hollyby: T1: Shouldnt feel like an "either/or" issue. Supportive/palliative care should begin early, regardless of ability to cure #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:17:36 PDT 2011 Freshwidow I disagree about transition points. @ctsinclair: As a #cancer widow, I wish we had some orientation to hospice/PM at dx... or earlier! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:17:39 PDT 2011 ctsinclair T1: I think the concept of 'navigator' has been helpful in breast #cancer, wondering if applied more broadly? #hpm
  • 10. applied more broadly? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:17:47 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom RT @equijada: @jodyms how do cancer patients wish2 transitioner? As MD, I slowly push boundaries till I get resistance then back off #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:18:01 PDT 2011 elderpages I love the work of Dr. David Casarret: Talk first about hopes and achievable goals. Strategize transition in context of achieving these #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:18:11 PDT 2011 jodyms Elaborate - I like that RT @aliciabloom stop perpetuating the everything/treatment vs. nothing/hospice dichotomy #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:18:12 PDT 2011 MatthewsMichele @PracticalWisdom @elderpages how do we get them on the same page...is that not where the process should begin? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:18:12 PDT 2011 MatthewsMichele RT @aliciabloom: stop perpetuating the everything/treatment vs. nothing/hospice dichotomy #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:18:18 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @aliciabloom Got to talk to a nurse today about that. She was very receptive to having good language to describe the role of pall care #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:18:19 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc @uvmer So how tough was that early conversation and did it take away hope? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:18:30 PDT 2011 Freshwidow I believe once you get the idea that there is a "transition" point, you are too delicate to ever start with most ppl. #hpm @ctsinclair Wed Jun 8 18:18:41 PDT 2011 drseisenberg T1: Compassionate communication must be there from day 1. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:18:45 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @Freshwidow So glad you are here! Tell me more why you disagree about transition points. I think we are probably on the same page. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:18:50 PDT 2011 jodyms @freshwidow I agree completely from what I've seen and experienced. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:18:54 PDT 2011 equijada RT @Freshwidow: I disagree about transition points. @ctsinclair: As a #cancer widow, I wish we had some orientation to hospice/PM at dx... or earlier! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:18:54 PDT 2011 revdoc T1 Maybe we need doulas (sp?) for death as well as for birthing? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:19:00 PDT 2011
  • 11. elderpages RT @MatthewsMichele: how do we get them on the same page...is that not where the process should begin?...T: "Whose" page is first? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:19:17 PDT 2011 Freshwidow With us, the disease was slow for a long time... it started to change v. quickly, then more quickly. NO time to adjust. #hpm @ctsinclair Wed Jun 8 18:19:33 PDT 2011 elderpages RT @revdoc: T1 Maybe we need doulas (sp?) for death as well as for birthing?... T: As a former midwife, YES!!! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:19:35 PDT 2011 DrSnit RT @revdoc: T1 Maybe we need doulas (sp?) for death as well as for birthing? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:19:39 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @uvmer Was knowing the path helpful, even if you veered off the path? Like knowing when things were not as planned? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:19:40 PDT 2011 RossJeanette T1 healthcare providers should accept that palliative care can improve quality and length of life too. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:19:43 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom Not sure there is a simple nor easy answer. G8 ?RT @MatthewsMichele: @PracticalWisdom @elderpages how do we get them on the same page. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:19:47 PDT 2011 aliciabloom if we are to have true informed consent, patients need to know best & worst case scenarios and everything in between. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:19:51 PDT 2011 ihatebreastcanc #cancer the word palliative is misunderstood. Some equate it with giving up or no hope. Need to clearly define for patient and family #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:19:58 PDT 2011 jodyms EOL navigators, doulas? Those are interesting thoughts. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:20:02 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @revdoc There have been some doulas for EOL but I think they would avoid calling themselves Death Doulas. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:20:07 PDT 2011 EldrcareConsult Wait!!! Dont start yet!!! I am here now! :) #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:20:17 PDT 2011 aliciabloom @ctsinclair language is critically important and a focus of the clinical education i do. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:20:22 PDT 2011 hollyby T1: Providers need to develop communication skills to address goals & what is important to the patient at diagnosis and revisit them #hpm
  • 12. Wed Jun 8 18:20:27 PDT 2011 MatthewsMichele @elderpages @MatthewsMichele the patient's page...definitely the patient's page. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:20:29 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom RT @Freshwidow: With us, disease was slow 4 a long timeit started 2 change v. quickly/then quickly. NO time to adjust. #hpm @ctsinclair #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:20:35 PDT 2011 westr RT @drseisenberg: T1: Compassionate communication must be there from day 1. #hpm #pm101 #hcsm Wed Jun 8 18:20:35 PDT 2011 Pallimed Death doulas in the NY Times from Pallimed: A Hospice and Palliative Medicine Blog http://hpm.md/lSsRkM #hpm cc @revdoc Wed Jun 8 18:20:36 PDT 2011 MatthewsMichele RT @aliciabloom: if we are to have true informed consent, patients need to know best & worst case scenarios and everything in between. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:20:40 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @jodyms: EOL navigators, doulas? Those are interesting thoughts. "but then we have the tough EOL/labeling issue" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:21:00 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom So glad to see you. Always add value and kindness.RT @EldrcareConsult: Wait!!! Dont start yet!!! I am here now! :) #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:21:12 PDT 2011 jodyms RT @westr: RT @drseisenberg: T1: Compassionate communication must be there from day 1. #hpm #pm101 #hcsm Wed Jun 8 18:21:12 PDT 2011 revdoc RT @ctsinclair: I think they avoid calling themselves Death Doulas. "Are we still that death avoidant? It's birth to different realm" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:21:40 PDT 2011 DrSnit @revdoc The idea of a "death doula" is powerful. But death, loss, & dying are so culturally centered, who would do it best? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:21:46 PDT 2011 EldrcareConsult The little one and I were out washing my truck..... :) #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:21:47 PDT 2011 JoshGriffin RT @RossJeanette: T1 healthcare providers should accept that palliative care can improve quality and length of life too. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:21:49 PDT 2011 Freshwidow I hear this a LOT from my widows... and we often focus it (wrongly I think) on the excessive hope in disease communities #hpm @ctsinclair Wed Jun 8 18:21:53 PDT 2011
  • 13. jodyms T2: You all agree on early discussion. Where/when does that take place? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:21:56 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc I talk to all patients with advanced disease about #hpm. They can choose not to have anticancertherapy. Hospice is important then. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:21:57 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom Listening to needs 1st start.RT @westr: RT @drseisenberg: T1: Compassionate communication must be there from day 1. #hpm #pm101 #hcsm #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:22:02 PDT 2011 PinkRibbonBlues RT @MatthewsMichele: RT @aliciabloom: if we are to have true informed consent, patients need to know best & worst case scenarios and everything in between. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:22:07 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @Freshwidow The different trajectories of illness is often discussed by palliative teams. Some are gradual, others very erratic #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:22:15 PDT 2011 elderpages See link on tipsheet for talking about hospice: Identify hopes first. http://bit.ly/m1wYsJ #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:22:16 PDT 2011 jodyms @revdoc @ctsinclair We ARE death avoidant. How do we tell the truth in cultures where the truth is not to be told? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:22:37 PDT 2011 Freshwidow For me, hope for change is in the grassroots already active: disease communities MUST start to talk about "not every makes it." #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:22:42 PDT 2011 vj_CR @PracticalWisdom hello Lisa! I´m I too late to jump in #hpm ?? Wed Jun 8 18:22:49 PDT 2011 jodyms RT @jfclearywisc: I talk to all patients with advanced disease about #hpm. They can choose not to have anticancertherapy. Hospice is im ... Wed Jun 8 18:22:51 PDT 2011 PinkRibbonBlues RT @Freshwidow @ctsinclair We often focus it (wrongly I think) on the excessive hope in disease communities #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:22:55 PDT 2011 equijada @jodyms would it be helpful if a healthcare provider was identified from day one as the "non-abandoner" (obviously need better term) #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:23:21 PDT 2011 ihatebreastcanc #cancer everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die. Denial is a powerful coping mechanism! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:23:21 PDT 2011 buffalogator RT @Pallimed: Death doulas in the NY Times from Pallimed: A Hospice and
  • 14. buffalogator RT @Pallimed: Death doulas in the NY Times from Pallimed: A Hospice and Palliative Medicine Blog http://hpm.md/lSsRkM #hpm cc @revdoc Wed Jun 8 18:23:23 PDT 2011 jodyms Agree! RT @Freshwidow I hear this a LOT from my widows... and we often focus it (wrongly I think) on excessive hope #hpm @ctsinclair Wed Jun 8 18:23:32 PDT 2011 MatthewsMichele @vj_CR @PracticalWisdom my two cents...no way, jump in anytime! ;) #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:23:36 PDT 2011 hollyby @jfclearywisc Some patients on hospice continue palliative chemo, don't necessarily have to d/c anticancer therapy. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:23:39 PDT 2011 drseisenberg I saw so many young patients today; new patients. Connection first. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:23:46 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @revdoc Yes we (culture) are 'death avoidant' in terms of our own mortality. Most acknowledge death is inevitable, just not dying yet. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:23:47 PDT 2011 Freshwidow We widows OFTEN see this as a culture change issue across the board b/c of our isolation and perspective btwn 2 worlds #hpm. Wed Jun 8 18:23:54 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom @Jodyms is our leader 2 night sure she/we are glad you R hereRT @vj_CR: @PracticalWisdom hello Lisa! I´m I too late to jump in #hpm ?? #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:23:56 PDT 2011 revdoc @jodyms @ctsinclair We learn to tell truth in the language of each culture; takes a lot of work and cultural sensitivity #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:24:09 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @Freshwidow: hope for change is in the grassroots already active: disease communities MUST start to talk about "not every makes it." #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:24:13 PDT 2011 vj_CR @MatthewsMichele @PracticalWisdom great! #hpm thanks for the warm welcome! Wed Jun 8 18:24:17 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc RT @MatthewsMichele: RT @aliciabloom: if we are to have true informed consent: Yes it is informed consent so need it from diagnosis. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:24:18 PDT 2011 equijada @jodyms @Freshwidow I like what @jfclearywisc has been teaching about hope/hubris #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:24:30 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @drseisenberg: I saw so many young patients today; new patients. Connection first. "Helps establish trust, and non-abandonment" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:24:34 PDT 2011
  • 15. DrSnit @Freshwidow People often take "hope" or make "meanings" in amazing ways during the illness process. How or should we even shift this? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:24:46 PDT 2011 elderpages RT @PinkRibbonBlues: We often focus it (wrongly I think) on the excessive hope...T: Hope has many faces. http://bit.ly/mUBNWI #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:24:49 PDT 2011 VillageMemorial @ctsinclair What about collaborating w/friendly funeral directors? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:24:53 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @ihatebreastcanc: #cancer everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die. Denial is a powerful coping mechanism! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:25:06 PDT 2011 aliciabloom at time of diagnosis with an advanced illness there should be discussion about values, preferences and wishes. balance hope & reality. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:25:08 PDT 2011 jodyms Absolutely @equijada would it be helpful if a healthcare provider was id'd frm day as one "non-abandoner" (obviously need better term) #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:25:14 PDT 2011 MarksPhone Sorry had a senior day totally forgot #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:25:24 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @ihatebreastcanc Important too, to recognize that denial as coping mechanism is not always 'negative' can be helpful at times. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:25:35 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc @hollyby @jfclearywisc Not suggesting can't have chemo and hospice. Informed consent is reason for early Hospice discussion @diagnosis #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:25:36 PDT 2011 EldrcareConsult @VillageMemorial @ctsinclair I have established some great relationships with funeral directors...they are great resources #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:25:48 PDT 2011 revdoc RT @revdoc: @jodyms @ctsinclair lot of work & cultural sensitivity "also not a one time thing, reveal the truth over time as pt/fam tol #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:25:57 PDT 2011 hollyby RT @aliciabloom: at time of dx w/ advanced illness there should be discussion abt values, preferences & wishes. balance hope & reality. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:26:04 PDT 2011 JohnGirdwood Great! Every step of the way RT @equijada: @jodyms helpful if healthcare provider identified from day 1: "non-abandoner" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:26:24 PDT 2011 VillageMemorial Does anyone have experience w/home monitoring distance care over internet?
  • 16. VillageMemorial Does anyone have experience w/home monitoring distance care over internet? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:26:27 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @jodyms RE: Non-abandoner - we need more negatives in there. I am a non-anti- abandoning unavoider. ;-) #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:26:28 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom VAlentina is joining us from Argentina RT @vj_CR: @MatthewsMichele @PracticalWisdom great! #hpm thanks for the warm welcome! #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:26:30 PDT 2011 hollyby True. RT @jfclearywisc: @hollyby Not suggesting cant have chemo & hospice. Informed consent is reason for early Hospice discussion @ dx #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:26:40 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc RT @equijada: @jodyms @Freshwidow I like what @jfclearywisc has been teaching about hope/hubris Thanks it is James Tulsky's work!! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:26:44 PDT 2011 aliciabloom #palliative care discussions before LVAD surgery did not take away hope & was found to provide relief (mnt.to/3WDs) #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:26:51 PDT 2011 Freshwidow I wonder if shrinks can offer some insight as to when ppl in shock from catastrophic dx can best receive #HPM intro? Wed Jun 8 18:26:56 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom RT @EldrcareConsult: @VillageMemorial @ctsinclair I have established # great relationships w/ funeral directors they R great resources #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:27:05 PDT 2011 jodyms @ctsinclair EOL facilitor doesn't work, either.....#hpm Wed Jun 8 18:27:09 PDT 2011 drseisenberg I had to listen listen listen and then listen. Then gently talk about what we need to do next. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:27:14 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @jfclearywisc Would love health care to really focus on informed consent. So undervalued. World's biggest lie 'I have read the terms' #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:27:27 PDT 2011 Freshwidow Agree -- or earlier! RT @hollyby: RT @aliciabloom: at time of dx w/ advanced illness there should be discussion ..... #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:27:30 PDT 2011 jodyms RT @aliciabloom: #palliative care discussions before LVAD surgery did not take away hope & was found to provide relief (mnt.to/3WDs) #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:27:31 PDT 2011 jodyms RT @PracticalWisdom: VAlentina is joining us from Argentina RT @vj_CR: @MatthewsMichele @PracticalWisdom great! #hpm thanks for the warm ... Wed Jun 8 18:27:43 PDT 2011
  • 17. Wed Jun 8 18:27:43 PDT 2011 jodyms RT @Freshwidow: I wonder if shrinks can offer some insight as to when ppl in shock from catastrophic dx can best receive #HPM intro? Wed Jun 8 18:27:53 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @Freshwidow: Can shrinks offer some insight as to when ppl in shock from catastrophic dx can best receive #HPM intro? cc @DrShock #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:27:59 PDT 2011 elderpages @jfclearywisc Do you have link to some of James Tulsky's work? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:27:59 PDT 2011 DrSnit Many fear if they don't have "hope" or a act a certain way during the illness process they WILL be abandoned. Who teaches us to die? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:28:13 PDT 2011 uvmer @jfclearywisc Actually before initial surgery. Never spoke of it again. In the end ability to speak was gone, but knew what I had to do #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:28:29 PDT 2011 aliciabloom @Freshwidow i believe #palliative care clinicians can help patients & families cope with catastrophic diagnosis. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:28:29 PDT 2011 VillageMemorial @aliciabloom Good points. Planning is vital. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:28:32 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom Along w/ your songs!RT @drseisenberg: I had to listen listen listen and then listen. Then gently talk about what we need to do next. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:28:34 PDT 2011 jodyms RT @DrSnit: Many fear if they don't have "hope" or a act a certain way during the illness process they WILL be abandoned. Who teaches us to die? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:28:34 PDT 2011 Freshwidow Yes, one really must use holistic, positive language. Like SISTER/BROTHER... navigator. @jodyms: @ctsinclair #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:28:37 PDT 2011 MatthewsMichele RT @aliciabloom: @Freshwidow i believe #palliative care clinicians can help patients & families cope with catastrophic diagnosis. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:28:50 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc RT @ctsinclair: @jfclearywisc Would love health care to really focus on informed consent. Bet u bought ur house w/o reading fineprint #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:28:51 PDT 2011 HumpbacksRule #hpm Hi all, Late to the party, but lurking :) Ro here- Research nurse, hospice volunteer. Wed Jun 8 18:28:53 PDT 2011 JohnGirdwood Huh? Confused RT @hollyby: @jfclearywisc patients on hospice continue palliative
  • 18. JohnGirdwood Huh? Confused RT @hollyby: @jfclearywisc patients on hospice continue palliative chemo, don't necessarily d/c anticancer therapy. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:28:57 PDT 2011 Gregmogel wow. “@revdoc: T1 Maybe we need doulas (sp?) for death as well as for birthing? #hpm” Wed Jun 8 18:29:05 PDT 2011 jodyms At the cancer centers I've seen the #HPM department is off and away....down a hall, on the top floor, set aside. Let's start there. Wed Jun 8 18:29:12 PDT 2011 elderpages @aliciabloom has hope to trend on twitter! David Casarret's book Last Acts is all about what people choose to do in final weeks. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:29:17 PDT 2011 uvmer Sorry, my computer needs hospice! In slo-mo tonight. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:29:21 PDT 2011 equijada @DrSnit don't think dying has to be taught...just experienced. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:29:24 PDT 2011 JoshGriffin RT @ctsinclair: @jodyms RE: Non-abandoner - we need more negatives in there. I am a non-anti-abandoning unavoider. ;-) #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:29:38 PDT 2011 TreatThePain RT @painpolicy: 15 year old girl w/ terminal cancer has made a bucket list. One of her wishes: to trend on Twitter. Plz give a RT #alicebucketlist #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:29:44 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @DrSnit: Many fear if they dont have "hope" or a act a certain way during illness they WILL be abandoned. Who teaches us to die? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:29:50 PDT 2011 hellen177 RT @uvmer: As care giver to my partner w/a brain tumor, an early conversation & an advanced directive were key.Knew then the path I was to follow. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:29:50 PDT 2011 hollyby @JohnGirdwood Which part? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:29:54 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @DrSnit I see many patients who deny symptoms because they don't want people to think anti-cancer treatments are failing. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:30:16 PDT 2011 joshgriffin RT @ctsinclair: RT @DrSnit: Many fear if they dont have "hope" or a act a certain way during illness they WILL be abandoned. Who teaches us to die? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:30:24 PDT 2011 equijada “@jodyms: At the cancer centers I've seen the #HPM department is off & away....down a hall, on the top floor, set aside..start there.” Amen Wed Jun 8 18:30:26 PDT 2011
  • 19. vj_CR @DrSnit mmmm I don´t think you can be taught on how to die.... probably it´s part of the journey.... #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:30:39 PDT 2011 MatthewsMichele I agree wholeheartedly! RT @equijada: @DrSnit dont think dying has to be taught...just experienced. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:30:56 PDT 2011 aliciabloom @elderpages absolutely-- lovely stories in the book. i have a signed copy:) worked with dr. casarret when i was at penn. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:30:58 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @uvmer: Sorry, my computer needs hospice! In slo-mo tonight. "C'mon computer, you can do it!" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:30:58 PDT 2011 DrSnit @equijada :) That's like saying birth is natural- just go push sweetie. Death and illness are a process. We NEED EACH OTHER. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:30:58 PDT 2011 PinkRibbonBlues RT @DrSnit Many fear if they don't have "hope" or a act a certain way during the illness process they WILL be abandoned. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:30:59 PDT 2011 Freshwidow @aliciabloom But we resist when we are marshalling 100% to get thru 1st therapy, research.... etc. We create our disease mindset... #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:31:04 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom Wonder Why? RT @jodyms: all cancer centers Ive seen #HPM depar is off away.down a hall, on the top floor, set aside. Lets start there. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:31:15 PDT 2011 MarksPhone @ctsinclair well said and I've seen that as well but I think it is a way for them to feel hope #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:31:16 PDT 2011 jodyms RT @ctsinclair @DrSnit ..many patients who deny symptoms because they don't want people to think anti-cancer treatments are failing. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:31:22 PDT 2011 equijada @DrSnit @equijada true that. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:31:33 PDT 2011 revdoc @equijada @DrSnit But once U have the exper, U can't teach others except passively. We can teach "how to die well" w/ our global exps. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:31:36 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @equijada: dont think dying has to be taught...just experienced. "disagree, I teach patients/families what others have taught me" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:31:51 PDT 2011 ihatebreastcanc RT @jodyms: RT @ctsinclair @DrSnit ..many patients who deny symptoms because
  • 20. ihatebreastcanc RT @jodyms: RT @ctsinclair @DrSnit ..many patients who deny symptoms because they don't want people to think anti-cancer treatments are failing. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:31:56 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom Both can be scary/PainfulRT @DrSnit: @equijadaThats like saying birth is natural- just go push sweetie. Death/illness are a process. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:32:04 PDT 2011 HumpbacksRule RT @ctsinclair: RT @equijada: dont think dying has to be taught...just experienced. "disagree, I teach patients/families what others have taught me" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:32:29 PDT 2011 equijada @ctsinclair true #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:32:32 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @MarksPhone Agreed, it is a complex phenomenon that has effects on the individual and the team around them #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:32:36 PDT 2011 drseisenberg yep RT @jodyms @ctsinclair @DrSnit ..many patients who deny symptoms because they dont want people to think anti-cancer tx are failing. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:32:40 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc RT @ctsinclair: dont think dying has to be taught...just experienced. "disagree, I teach patients/families what others have taught me" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:32:42 PDT 2011 vj_CR @jfclearywisc @ctsinclair in Lat Am informed consents differ quite a lot from the ones used in the states #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:32:58 PDT 2011 VillageMemorial Anyone else attending this Friday's Statewide #Palliative Care Conference in Portland OR? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:32:58 PDT 2011 jodyms @PracticalWisdom @drsnit Both are SCARY. Control freaks like myself want to know: how does this work?? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:33:04 PDT 2011 MarksPhone @ctsinclair I think before dying someone needs to teach patients about acceptance to face what is there. That is difficult #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:33:14 PDT 2011 elderpages Wondering how patients are feeling abandoned and what they would like by way of support. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:33:46 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @jodyms Ha! At our hospital the palliative medicine department is on top floor down a...dead end. Never realized till you said that. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:33:48 PDT 2011 hollyby I'm not sure that teaching dying is the right term, maybe guiding people through the process, since each person's path is different. #hpm
  • 21. process, since each person's path is different. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:33:53 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom Think need 4 All! RT @jodyms: @PracticalWisdom @drsnit Both are SCARY. Control freaks like myself want to know: how does this work?? #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:33:57 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @vj_CR In what way are informed consents different? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:34:04 PDT 2011 MarksPhone Remember in our live we learn through experiences and reflect on them this is a different learning we may not have time to reflect #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:34:17 PDT 2011 drseisenberg RT @MarksPhone @ctsinclair I think before dying someone needs to teach patients about acceptance to face what is there. Difficult #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:34:21 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @equijada And it is not so much telling them this is the way to die well, but here are how other families/patients coped well. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:34:36 PDT 2011 jodyms RT @drseisenberg: RT @MarksPhone @ctsinclair I think before dying someone needs to teach patients about acceptance to face what is there. Difficult #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:34:40 PDT 2011 joshgriffin RT @hollyby: I'm not sure that teaching dying is the right term, maybe guiding people through the process, since each person's path is different. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:34:46 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom @jodyms @PracticalWisdom @drsnit When people understand many times helps lower anxiety. This certainly is good for Body/Soul/Mind/Famiy #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:34:49 PDT 2011 uvmer @ctsinclair Wicked scary!!! I wanted to be the caregiver through the entire process, and they were wonderful support givers. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:34:49 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @equijada The main theme to healthy coping with illness is adaptation. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:35:05 PDT 2011 Freshwidow I strongly disagree - Pt, family, etc, can B learn that death is one real outcome. / @vj_cr don´t think u can be taught how 2 die.. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:35:06 PDT 2011 elderpages RT @MarksPhone: Remember in our lives we learn thru experiences and reflect on them. This learning we may not have time to reflect #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:35:09 PDT 2011 HumpbacksRule #hpm Dying is a lot of work for pt & caregiver. Talking, sharing & teaching are very important. Helps w the 'control freak' to some degree. Wed Jun 8 18:35:09 PDT 2011
  • 22. DrSnit Even knowing others have been through the process before & talking it through leaves breadcrumbs. This matters! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:35:31 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @MarksPhone: we learn through experiences and reflect on them; this is a different learning we may not have time to reflect #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:35:34 PDT 2011 jodyms @ctsinclair @equiljada We can't ever forget the entire family context and the cultural context. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:35:34 PDT 2011 aliciabloom @Freshwidow hear that & yet believe if pt's know what #palliative care is (enhances QoL & can improve survival) they would be receptive #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:35:44 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc RT @vj_CR: @jfclearywisc @ctsinclair in Lat Am informed consents differ quite a lot "not just the forms, a true discussion!" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:35:54 PDT 2011 MarksPhone What action on reflection does one take when told terminal? That is the step that is critical to learn how to die. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:36:05 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom Again also helps patient.RT @jodyms: @ctsinclair @equiljada We cant ever forget the entire family context and the cultural context. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:36:14 PDT 2011 drseisenberg RT @HumpbacksRule: #hpm Dying is a lot of work for pt & caregiver. Talking, sharing & teaching are very important. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:36:17 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @DesiChicInPA: @ctsinclair we have navi's in neuroscience/brain malignancy, surgical oncology, lung and esophageal, geriatrics. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:36:26 PDT 2011 vj_CR @MarksPhone @ctsinclair sometimes patients accept the reality and their families don´t. Then they are the ones to be taught #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:36:28 PDT 2011 uvmer Offered the opportunity to meet with someone about end of life care at MGH...way too early in our fight. Still were clinging to hope #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:36:33 PDT 2011 Freshwidow NO. Dying is a family and community process. NOT just one experience. @drsnit -- / @equijada: dont think dying has to be taught... #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:36:45 PDT 2011 vj_CR RT @hollyby: I'm not sure that teaching dying is the right term, maybe guiding people through the process, since each person's path is different. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:36:45 PDT 2011
  • 23. ctsinclair @vj_CR So true #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:36:50 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc RT @hollyby: I'm not sure that teaching dying is the right term, "Doctor" = teacher (was that my Latin class?) #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:36:57 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom RT @vj_CR: @MarksPhone @ctsinclair sometimes patients accept the reality and their families don´t. Then they are the ones to be taught #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:37:04 PDT 2011 revdoc We can demystify the mechanics of the dying process so that pts/fams are then free to concentrate on meaning/deal w/emotional cmpts #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:37:04 PDT 2011 MarksPhone @vj_CR Great point how to balance family and pateint because that is journey they are on #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:37:11 PDT 2011 elderpages RT @MarksPhone: What action on reflection does one take when told terminal? That is the step that is critical to learn how to die. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:37:20 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom RT @MarksPhone: @vj_CR Great point how to balance family and pateint because that is journey they are on #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:37:33 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @uvmer Was that how it was said 'talking to someone about end of life care?' Being a palliative doc, always curious how HPM introduced #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:37:41 PDT 2011 equijada RT @uvmer: Offered the opportunity to meet with someone about end of life care at MGH...way too early in our fight. Still were clinging to hope #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:37:46 PDT 2011 jodyms Dying is a group experience, agree @ Freshwidow NO. Dying is a family and community process. NOT just one experience #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:37:48 PDT 2011 drseisenberg What can med oncs do to support #cancer patients if treatments not working? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:37:53 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @revdoc: We can demystify the mechanics of the dying process so pts/fams are free to concentrate on meaning/deal w/emotional cmpts #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:38:02 PDT 2011 revdoc Type slower--you guys are making me dizzy tonight! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:38:05 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom @Freshwidow: What is one lesson you would like for us to hear from you tonight. This is a caring group and we are open to learning. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:38:19 PDT 2011
  • 24. Wed Jun 8 18:38:19 PDT 2011 equijada @uvmer how was it introduced? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:38:21 PDT 2011 Freshwidow Absitively! RT @drsnit: Even knowing others have been through the process before & talking it through leaves breadcrumbs. This matters! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:38:26 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc Has anyone analysed #hpm tweetchats to examine prevelance of the word "hope" Comes up over & over #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:38:34 PDT 2011 elderpages RT @revdoc: We can demystify the mechanics of dying...T: Our webpage on "Last Few Days" is one of most visited! http://bit.ly/mfenFJ #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:38:35 PDT 2011 HumpbacksRule #hpm I think every1 is different on when/where/how they are ready to discuss the process. Gotta start where the pt is. Wed Jun 8 18:38:38 PDT 2011 jodyms @revdoc If you're dizzy - imagine me....I am crazed #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:38:43 PDT 2011 VillageMemorial Dr. Erik Fromme always puts on a great talk at every #Palliative Care Conference. Looking forward to Friday's event in Portland. #pdx #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:38:51 PDT 2011 revdoc @drseisenberg Either construct a palliative care plan for your pts (and know what you're doing) or consult HPM EARLY #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:39:00 PDT 2011 jodyms YES @PracticalWisdom @Freshwidow: What is one lesson you would like for us to hear from you .. we are open to learning. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:39:26 PDT 2011 equijada @jfclearywisc interesting, I was just thinking that and how I used hope 10 years ago compared to now #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:39:36 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @MarksPhone: What action on reflection does one take when told terminal? "I have seen as a time of immense growth" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:39:40 PDT 2011 Freshwidow But you are treating this as a RATIONAL factual problem. It's NOT. RT @aliciabloom: if pts know what #palliative is they'd B receptive #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:39:40 PDT 2011 vj_CR @ctsinclair after I read the first ICF in english I was surprised to see how down to the facts it was #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:39:45 PDT 2011
  • 25. elderpages RT @MarksPhone: @vj_CR Great point how to balance family and pateint because that is journey they are on #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:39:50 PDT 2011 drseisenberg RT @HumpbacksRule: #hpm I think every1 is different on when/where/how they are ready 2 discuss process. Gotta start where the pt is. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:39:55 PDT 2011 JoshGriffin RT @jodyms: Dying is a group experience, agree @ Freshwidow NO. Dying is a family and community process. NOT just one experience #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:39:57 PDT 2011 vj_CR RT @MarksPhone: Remember in our live we learn through experiences and reflect on them this is a different learning we may not have time to reflect #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:39:57 PDT 2011 jodyms RT @drseisenberg: What can med oncs do to support #cancer patients if treatments not working? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:40:05 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @revdoc: Type slower--you guys are making me dizzy tonight! "that's because this chat is a rockin! Having a great time!" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:40:18 PDT 2011 MarksPhone @HumpbacksRule I totally agree where is the patient? w/o having studied it there is a tipping point in understanding which happens #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:40:33 PDT 2011 equijada @VillageMemorial I heart Erik. Please send him my regards. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:40:43 PDT 2011 aliciabloom we educate patients & families about dying process to support acceptance & guide the experience. never forget every process is unique. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:40:53 PDT 2011 DrSnit @HumpbacksRule You and @Freshwidow are SO SO SO on tonight with your insight!!!! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:40:53 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom @Freshwidow Would you like for us to learn one lesson? I"m sure we can slow down to listen. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:41:09 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc RT @drseisenberg: What can med oncs do to support #cancer patients if treatments not working? "Define goal of therapy early!!" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:41:10 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @jfclearywisc: Anyone analysed #hpm tweetchats to examine prevelance of the word "hope" Comes up over & over "I have transcripts!" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:41:14 PDT 2011 authordhallman #hpm A lesson - coordinate well the various care services so family can focus on patient.
  • 26. authordhallman patient. Wed Jun 8 18:41:15 PDT 2011 DoctorFisher Just ordered "The Art of Dying" by my friend @mollrob looking forward to reading it #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:41:19 PDT 2011 joshgriffin RT @ctsinclair: RT @revdoc: Type slower--you guys are making me dizzy tonight! "that's because this chat is a rockin! Having a great time!" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:41:22 PDT 2011 revdoc @drseisenberg Have a sx mgmt assessment and plan for every pt every visit--as important as what CTX does pt need #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:41:26 PDT 2011 jodyms @drseisenberg My thought - patients/familys are afraid that their PCP & med onc will abandon them. Period. #hpm Very real. Wed Jun 8 18:41:32 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @DrSnit: @HumpbacksRule You and @Freshwidow are SO SO SO on tonight with your insight!!!! "Seconded!" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:41:36 PDT 2011 elderpages RT @authordhallman: #hpm A lesson - coordinate well the various care services so family can focus on patient. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:41:40 PDT 2011 equijada @DrSnit @HumpbacksRule @Freshwidow I learn so much from you. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:41:52 PDT 2011 HumpbacksRule Thanks! >> @DrSnit @Freshwidow You and @Freshwidow are SO SO SO on tonight with your insight!!!! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:41:56 PDT 2011 vj_CR @MarksPhone balance when you are not sick is hard enough...... imagine when you are #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:41:57 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom Thank you for this lesson.RT @authordhallman: #hpm A lesson - coordinate well the various care services so family can focus on patient. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:41:58 PDT 2011 hellen177 RT @uvmer: Offered the opportunity to meet with someone about end of life care at MGH...way too early in our fight. Still were clinging to hope #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:41:58 PDT 2011 MarksPhone @ctsinclair That is a great point how can we quantify it so we can understand it better #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:42:10 PDT 2011 vj_CR RT @revdoc: Type slower--you guys are making me dizzy tonight! #hpm | hehe me too!!!! Wed Jun 8 18:42:24 PDT 2011
  • 27. LJaneTn @jodyms #HPM fear is often the place where patients start. Wed Jun 8 18:42:26 PDT 2011 drseisenberg RT @vj_CR: @MarksPhone balance when you are not sick is hard enough...... imagine when you are #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:42:38 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom It's one of the reasons I respect all of you. RT @equijada: @DrSnit @HumpbacksRule @Freshwidow I learn so much from you. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:42:40 PDT 2011 DrSnit @jodyms agreed! @drseisenberg Fear of abandonment and guilt is far bigger than fear of pain #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:42:43 PDT 2011 jodyms We need a reality-based hope in #HPM @ctsinclair MT @jfclearywisc ..prevelance of the word "hope" Comes up over & over Wed Jun 8 18:42:44 PDT 2011 drseisenberg RT @LJaneTn: @jodyms #HPM fear is often the place where patients start. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:42:51 PDT 2011 uvmer @ctsinclair To us,knew prognosis was grim but there are always miracles out there.Once end of life care came up,hour glass was running #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:42:58 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @revdoc: @drseisenberg Have a sx mgmt assessment and plan for every pt every visit--as important as what CTX does pt need "Yup!" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:42:59 PDT 2011 VillageMemorial We like to remember Kubler-Ross' DABDA doesn't always happen in order. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:43:10 PDT 2011 equijada I think we need to have a journal club on hope/hubris. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:43:24 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @revdoc @drseisenberg But important to realize the oncologist may have enough to do with just focusing on the anti-cancer treatment #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:43:28 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom Profound~such an important Factor! RT @vj_CR: @MarksPhone balance when you are not sick is hard enough...... imagine when you are #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:43:30 PDT 2011 aliciabloom sometimes we have to help patients & families reframe their hope. there are many kinds of healing. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:43:33 PDT 2011 DrSnit RT @LJaneTn: @jodyms #HPM fear is often the place where patients start. Wed Jun 8 18:43:42 PDT 2011
  • 28. Wed Jun 8 18:43:42 PDT 2011 hollyby RT @jodyms: We need a reality-based hope in #HPM @ctsinclair MT @jfclearywisc ..prevelance of the word "hope" Comes up over & over #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:43:48 PDT 2011 elderpages RT @equijada: I think we need to have a journal club on hope/hubris. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:43:50 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom G8 Idea RT @equijada: I think we need to have a journal club on hope/hubris. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:43:52 PDT 2011 jodyms @drseisenberg @LJaneTn That is true and sounds good but it boils down to things like this: who helps and when? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:44:18 PDT 2011 jodyms EXCELLENT RT @PracticalWisdom G8 Idea RT @equijada: I think we need to have a journal club on hope/hubris. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:44:39 PDT 2011 ihatebreastcanc @drseisenberg #cancer Be honest, don't give false hope. Know patient's grasp of his/her disease. Don't wail til very late for eol talk #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:44:40 PDT 2011 hollyby RT @aliciabloom: sometimes we have to help patients & families reframe their hope. there are many kinds of healing. '...and miracles' #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:44:41 PDT 2011 elderpages RT @DrSnit: RT @LJaneTn: @jodyms #HPM fear is often the place where patients start....T: What helps move to acceptance/transcendence? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:44:45 PDT 2011 Pallimed Articles on miracles and spirituality/religion in health care from Pallimed http://hpm.md/k98Z6D cc@uvmer #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:44:45 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc @uvmer @ctsinclair Miracles can come in many shapes and forms! "What do you mean by a miracle" is a teachable questions to residents #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:44:45 PDT 2011 JohnGirdwood http://ow.ly/1tC6qX RT @ctsinclair: RT @jfclearywisc: Anyone analysed #hpm tweetchats to examine prevelance of the word "hope" Wed Jun 8 18:44:48 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom RT @aliciabloom: sometimes we have to help patients & families reframe their hope. there are many kinds of healing. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:44:52 PDT 2011 DrSnit @VillageMemorial I like to remember that though I adore her, Kubler-Ross's DABDA doesn't happen for everyone and is culturally bound. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:45:02 PDT 2011
  • 29. "@revdoc: T1 Maybe we need doulas (sp?) for death as well as for birthing? Satchwill #hpm">excellent idea! Wed Jun 8 18:45:08 PDT 2011 aliciabloom @hollyby so true! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:45:23 PDT 2011 revdoc @ctsinclair @drseisenberg Then involve a dedicated HPM consultant in process before the active tx "fails" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:45:27 PDT 2011 uvmer @equijada At end of an office visit....kinda "oh, by the way, would you like to participate in an end of life discussion w/ some docs...#hpm Wed Jun 8 18:45:39 PDT 2011 VillageMemorial Anyone in the group attending funeral of Dr. #Kevorkian this Friday? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:45:41 PDT 2011 Intlphysicians RT @fischmd: symptom science website: ECOG Symptom Outcomes and Practice Patterns (SOAPP) study, ecogsoapp.com, http://ow.ly/5dlKQ , #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:46:16 PDT 2011 drseisenberg RT @revdoc: @ctsinclair @drseisenberg Then involve a dedicated HPM consultant in process before the active tx "fails" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:46:16 PDT 2011 LJaneTn @jodyms #HPM existential fear dominates- strikes at the heart of hope Wed Jun 8 18:46:18 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc #alicebucketlist hit 1.43% of tweets for last 24 hours at 1730 CDT #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:46:22 PDT 2011 aliciabloom we also need to be clear about what a "successful" treatment is-- patients often assume success = cure, which may not be the case. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:46:23 PDT 2011 uvmer @equijada Absolutely scared the shit out of us. Neither one of us could speak, and finally I said no thank you. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:46:31 PDT 2011 GroundSwellAus sorry I'm chiming in late I just wanted to happy birthday pallimed #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:46:31 PDT 2011 elderpages Dr. Casarret suggests talking first about deliverables of hospice (nurse visits, aide visits, SW). Once buy-in, then mention hospice. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:46:43 PDT 2011 equijada RT @uvmer: @equijada At end of an office visit....kinda "oh, by the way, would you like to participate in an end of life discussion w/ some docs...#hpm Wed Jun 8 18:46:46 PDT 2011
  • 30. Wed Jun 8 18:46:46 PDT 2011 drseisenberg RT @LJaneTn: @jodyms #HPM existential fear dominates- strikes at the heart of hope #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:46:49 PDT 2011 HumpbacksRule #hpm @LJaneTn @jodyms Absolutely & sometimes fear looks like something else. Have to listen to pt>> fear is often the place where patients.. Wed Jun 8 18:46:53 PDT 2011 MarksPhone Long ago in oncology pharma adriamycin nationally recognized oncologist said as did Jimmie Holland every cancer patient reacts diff #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:46:55 PDT 2011 jodyms The things I'm learning: I've never heard of a #HPM consultant. Wed Jun 8 18:47:08 PDT 2011 equijada @uvmer yes, I would not accept that either. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:47:09 PDT 2011 ihatebreastcanc RT @ctsinclair: RT @revdoc: We can demystify the mechanics of the dying process so pts/fams are free to concentrate on meaning/deal w/emotional cmpts #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:47:14 PDT 2011 elderpages RT @aliciabloom: we need to define "successful" treatment is-- patients often assume success = cure, which may not be the case. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:47:16 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom Wise RT @aliciabloom: we also need 2 B clear what a "successful" treatment is patients often assume success = cure may not be the case. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:47:17 PDT 2011 JohnGirdwood Good thought, i'm nearby RT @VillageMemorial: Anyone in the group attending funeral of Dr. #Kevorkian this Friday? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:47:33 PDT 2011 VillageMemorial @DrSnit Can you talk about the cultural differences of DABDA? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:47:34 PDT 2011 hollyby Yahoo! RT @GroundSwellAus: sorry Im chiming in late I just wanted to happy birthday pallimed #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:47:35 PDT 2011 Freshwidow Absolutely. RT @drseisenberg: involve a dedicated HPM consultant in process before the active tx "fails" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:47:37 PDT 2011 Pallimed RT @GroundSwellAus: sorry I'm chiming in late I just wanted to happy birthday pallimed #hpm "Hey thanks! 6 years of blogging!" Wed Jun 8 18:47:38 PDT 2011 ihatebreastcanc RT @ctsinclair: RT @DrSnit: Many fear if they dont have "hope" or a act a certain way
  • 31. ihatebreastcanc RT @ctsinclair: RT @DrSnit: Many fear if they dont have "hope" or a act a certain way during illness they WILL be abandoned. Who teaches us to die? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:47:50 PDT 2011 Gregmogel RT @LJaneTn: @jodyms #HPM fear is often the place where patients start. Wed Jun 8 18:47:55 PDT 2011 BCSisterhood @jodyms Loved one diequickly vs prolonged illness-shock of 1st way mind blowing & 2nd u have time to prepare. Lost husbands 2 each way. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:48:09 PDT 2011 drseisenberg RT @MarksPhone: Long ago nationally recognized oncologist said as did Jimmie Holland every cancer patient reacts diff #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:48:10 PDT 2011 uvmer @equijada It was tough. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:48:16 PDT 2011 DrSnit @jodyms I get DM's all the time from patients in need of hospice and have NO IDEA where to go or how to deal with it. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:48:16 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @jodyms: The things Im learning: Ive never heard of a #HPM consultant. 'Really!? I'm one! Seeing more patients ask for us." #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:48:23 PDT 2011 revdoc @Pallimed Happy birthday! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:48:26 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom Like the thought of analyzing Tweetchat afterward. Learned a great deal of ways I could improve/listen better as moderator after chat #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:48:34 PDT 2011 vj_CR @Freshwidow sorry.... I forgot the #hpm .... I get your point..... just think teach is no the word.... Wed Jun 8 18:48:46 PDT 2011 equijada @Gregmogel @LJaneTn @jodyms Fear. I personally have a lot of it. I'm learning and growing. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:48:50 PDT 2011 DrSnit @VillageMemorial We are in a chat right now. Using the #hpm hastag. Will talk later. Thanks. Wed Jun 8 18:48:52 PDT 2011 GroundSwellAus @Pallimed 6 years! wow! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:48:56 PDT 2011 HumpbacksRule Such a good point. @DrSnit @VillageMemorial I like to remember that though I adore her, Kubler-Ross's DABDA doesn't...#hpm Wed Jun 8 18:49:02 PDT 2011
  • 32. RT @elderpages @aliciabloom we need to define "successful" treatment- patients PinkRibbonBlues often assume success = cure, which may not be the case. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:49:03 PDT 2011 JohnGirdwood Volunteers too!!! RT @elderpages: Dr. Casarret suggests talking first about deliverables of hospice (nurse visits, aide visits, SW). #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:49:15 PDT 2011 aliciabloom effective conversations re: #hospice don't start w/ word. can't drop the "h-bomb" right away. establish goals & determine needs 1st. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:49:18 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom They trust U.RT @DrSnit: @jodyms I get DMs all the time from pt's in need of hospice have NO IDEA where to go or how to deal with it. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:49:18 PDT 2011 jodyms My thought is if more survivors understand this - when we're well - the mystery is easier to accept when it does happen #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:49:32 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @DrSnit: I get DMs all the time from patients in need of #hospice & have NO IDEA where to go or how to deal with it. "wow!" really?" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:49:40 PDT 2011 uvmer @BCSisterhood Strongly disagree! Can not prepare for the loss of someone you have spent your whole adult life with, and watch them die. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:49:55 PDT 2011 elderpages RT @vj_CR: @Freshwidow I get your point..... just think teach is no the word.... T: Exploring? Sharing? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:50:06 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @DrSnit There are a ton of us in social media who can help you with your hospice referral challenge. I would love to tackle this. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:50:15 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc @ctsinclair @jodyms COnsultant=Attending in many commonwealth countries #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:50:31 PDT 2011 hollyby @jodyms Ppl need to know we focus on whole person & symptom control, & may even help people complete symptom-causing curative therapy. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:50:37 PDT 2011 vj_CR @PracticalWisdom so true! #hpm and I think it´s part of the tweetchat point, trying to learn from it Wed Jun 8 18:50:39 PDT 2011 DrSnit @ctsinclair YES PLEASE #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:50:43 PDT 2011 revdoc @aliciabloom Onc needs to make HPM part of the initial tx plan for anyone with
  • 33. revdoc @aliciabloom Onc needs to make HPM part of the initial tx plan for anyone with incurable dz, tho, so there is no big "give up" later #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:50:47 PDT 2011 drseisenberg Every single one reacted sooooo differently today #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:51:00 PDT 2011 jodyms Critical issue: T4: How do we share the #hpm mission to those in need of hospice? Don't we all have a responsibility? Wed Jun 8 18:51:04 PDT 2011 elderpages RT @aliciabloom: effective conversations re: #hospice cant drop the "h-bomb" first. establish goals & determine needs 1st...T: YES! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:51:13 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @vj_CR so you don't have to forget the #hpm use http://Tweetchat.com/room/hpm #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:51:13 PDT 2011 jodyms RT @ctsinclair: @DrSnit There are a ton of us in social media who can help you with your hospice referral challenge. I would love to tackle this. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:51:18 PDT 2011 MarksPhone if you look at #hcsmvac they are using a grass roots SM effort to increase flu vac rates in MO can we model that idea about hospice? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:51:28 PDT 2011 GroundSwellAus is there no "peak" org in the US that has a listing of all hospice? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:51:28 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc !!!@aliciabloom Onc needs to make HPM part of the initial tx plan for anyone with incurable dz, tho, so there is no big "give up" later #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:51:35 PDT 2011 equijada @DrSnit @ctsinclair let me know as well. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:51:38 PDT 2011 HumpbacksRule RT @revdoc: @aliciabloom Onc needs to make HPM part of the initial tx plan for anyone with incurable dz, tho, so there is no big "give up" later #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:51:46 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @drseisenberg: Every single one reacted sooooo differently today "That can be emotionally draining." #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:51:53 PDT 2011 mollrob RT @DoctorFisher Just ordered "The Art of Dying" by my friend @mollrob looking forward to reading it #hpm // Thanks Doc! Wed Jun 8 18:51:59 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom Continuous Learning.RT @vj_CR: @PracticalWisdom so true! #hpm and I think it´s part of the tweetchat point, trying to learn from it #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:52:05 PDT 2011
  • 34. aliciabloom MT @ctsinclair: @DrSnit There are a ton of us in SoMe who can help w/ hospice referral challenge. I would love 2 tackle this. "me too!" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:52:13 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @MarksPhone Will need to look into #hcsmvac #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:52:15 PDT 2011 jodyms Great points. I want to write about this @elderpages @aliciabloom: effective conversations re: #hospice..est. goal...t..T: YES! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:52:23 PDT 2011 VillageMemorial Any thoughts as to how male caregivers feel about being called 'doulas'? Have heard word 'whisperer' being thrown around. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:52:26 PDT 2011 authordhallman #hpm re T4: that's why I decided to publish "August Farewell", to promote PC education/options Wed Jun 8 18:52:39 PDT 2011 vj_CR RT @MarksPhone: if you look at #hcsmvac they are using a grass roots SM effort to increase flu vac rates in MO can we model that idea about hospice? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:52:52 PDT 2011 equijada “@drseisenberg: Every single one reacted sooooo differently today #hpm” Many different pages. Part of the difficulty of transition. . Wed Jun 8 18:52:54 PDT 2011 BCSisterhood @jodyms Yes, we all have a responsibility & as baby boomers age, we need to reach out & do what we can to help one another. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:52:57 PDT 2011 Pallimed Find a Provider - The National #Hospice and Palliative Care Organization http://hpm.md/kJY2NZ #hpm cc @GroundSwellAus @DrSnit Wed Jun 8 18:53:02 PDT 2011 jodyms Ditto - we are all in this together:) @equijada @DrSnit @ctsinclair let me know as well. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:53:08 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc @GroundSwellAus Palliative Coalition. NHPCO, AAHPM, HPNA, CAPC and others. Given state power, no huge Federal peak body (jfclearyaus) #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:53:28 PDT 2011 GroundSwellAus @Pallimed @DrSnit cheers #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:53:33 PDT 2011 jodyms RT @Pallimed: Find a Provider - The National #Hospice and Palliative Care Organization http://hpm.md/kJY2NZ #hpm cc @GroundSwellAus @DrSnit Wed Jun 8 18:53:59 PDT 2011 joegormally RT @aliciabloom: stop perpetuating the everything/treatment vs. nothing/hospice
  • 35. joegormally RT @aliciabloom: stop perpetuating the everything/treatment vs. nothing/hospice dichotomy #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:54:03 PDT 2011 VillageMemorial RT @Pallimed: Find a Provider - The National #Hospice and Palliative Care Organization http://hpm.md/kJY2NZ #hpm cc @GroundSwellAus @DrSnit Wed Jun 8 18:54:12 PDT 2011 vj_CR RT @ctsinclair: @vj_CR so you don't have to forget the #hpm use http://bit.ly/b1nePp #hpm || TY :) Wed Jun 8 18:54:15 PDT 2011 hollyby @Pallimed @GroundSwellAus @DrSnit http://www.palliativedoctors.org/ #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:54:18 PDT 2011 DrSnit RT @Pallimed: Find a Provider - The National #Hospice and Palliative Care Organization http://hpm.md/kJY2NZ #hpm cc @GroundSwellAus @DrSnit Wed Jun 8 18:54:20 PDT 2011 doctatum Pulled away by patient issue. Looks like i missed great #hpm chat. Transcript coming? Wed Jun 8 18:54:35 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom RT @vj_CR:RT @MarksPhone: if U look #hcsmvac they R using grass roots SM effort 2 increase flu vac rates MO can we model idea hospice? #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:54:41 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @vj_CR Also makes it easy to favorite, and reply and retweet! Love it! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:54:48 PDT 2011 jodyms What a lightning talk...so much to say about bridging needs of patients with understanding #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:54:52 PDT 2011 joshgriffin RT @revdoc: @aliciabloom Onc needs to make HPM part of the initial tx plan for anyone with incurable dz, tho, so there is no big "give up" later #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:54:53 PDT 2011 equijada @uvmer Sucks. Sorry to hear it rolled that way. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:55:00 PDT 2011 elderpages Anyone know about Concerns Without Borders? They are doing grassroots palliative care in India. Website not real helpful :-( #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:55:01 PDT 2011 MarksPhone This topic as a communication strategy needs to be considered by segment Terminal patient vs. not vs. family vs. way before death #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:55:06 PDT 2011 GroundSwellAus @elderpages yes well! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:55:26 PDT 2011
  • 36. joegormally I'm sorry I missed this chat now.. it looked like a great discussion #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:55:38 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom @vj_CR @MarksPhone @doctatum is a Mo MD. #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:55:49 PDT 2011 jodyms Spot on RT MarksPhone This topic as a communication strategy needs to be considered by .... way before death #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:55:49 PDT 2011 dspacl Sorry to be getting here late, mates #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:55:55 PDT 2011 GroundSwellAus @elderpages what do you want to know? #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:56:04 PDT 2011 vj_CR @ctsinclair thanks! makes it easier :) #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:56:05 PDT 2011 DrSnit @hollyby thank you @Pallimed both ! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:56:10 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom RT @jodyms: Spot on RT MarksPhone This topic as a communication strategy needs to be considered by .... way before death #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:56:16 PDT 2011 jodyms We probably need to start wrapping up....loose thoughts, deep thoughts, take away from tonight's #hpm discussion? Wed Jun 8 18:56:20 PDT 2011 InpatientMed RT @Pallimed: Death doulas in the NY Times from Pallimed: A Hospice and Palliative Medicine Blog http://hpm.md/lSsRkM #hpm cc @revdoc Wed Jun 8 18:56:31 PDT 2011 JoshGriffin RT @hollyby: @Pallimed @GroundSwellAus @DrSnit http://www.palliativedoctors.org/ #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:56:32 PDT 2011 daitpcg RT @aliciabloom: effective conversations re: #hospice don't start w/ word. can't drop the "h-bomb" right away. establish goals & determine needs 1st. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:56:34 PDT 2011 MarksPhone Canadian oncologist told me that we've lost the understanding of death when we moved off the farm. it is not longer part of life 2day #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:56:41 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @doctatum: Pulled away by patient issue. Looks like i missed great #hpm chat. Transcript coming? "Yes" #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:56:44 PDT 2011
  • 37. Wed Jun 8 18:56:44 PDT 2011 jfclearywisc @jodyms Well done!! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:56:51 PDT 2011 HumpbacksRule Yes! >@MarksPhone This topic as a communication strategy needs to be considered by segment Terminal patient vs. not vs. family vs. .... #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:56:54 PDT 2011 elderpages RT @GroundSwellAus: @elderpages what do you want to know? T: Unable to find detailed description of activities. URL would be great! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:56:56 PDT 2011 ctsinclair RT @dspacl: Sorry to be getting here late, mates 'no problem, brother!' #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:56:56 PDT 2011 DrSnit @jodyms WOW! Thank you so so so much for the amazing topics tonight! I've missed you so much!! xo #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:56:59 PDT 2011 dspacl I have an idea to describe what we do in terms of the latest lexicon of #HCR #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:57:08 PDT 2011 hollyby @jodyms Thanks so much Jody! Wonderful chat. Thanks to everyone for joining in with all your thoughts! #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:57:52 PDT 2011 jodyms Wonderful message via @hollyby and others in #HPM: survivors, this is wholistic care...kind and gentle, delivered by incredible people. Wed Jun 8 18:57:52 PDT 2011 dspacl Goal Oriented = Patient Centered = GO PC #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:57:53 PDT 2011 PracticalWisdom Confetti Tweetchat Seems 2 me. Agree @Drsnit?RT @dspacl: I have an idea to describe what we do in terms of the latest lexicon of #HCR #HPM Wed Jun 8 18:57:53 PDT 2011 ctsinclair @aliciabloom Never heard the term 'H-bomb' I am stealing that one. With credit to you of course. #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:57:53 PDT 2011 MarksPhone That is the issue we are so far removed from death that when we face it it's in our grill We no longer grow up with farm animals dying #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:57:53 PDT 2011 GroundSwellAus @elderpages http://concernwithoutborders.org/initiatives.htm #hpm Wed Jun 8 18:58:02 PDT 2011 JohnGirdwood @hollyby hospice patient on chemotherapy? Not where I'm at. Maybe I read it wrong... But at my hospice, no curative on primary dx #hpm