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Epicurus &
Lucretius
PHIL 102, UBC
Christina Hendricks
Fall 2015
Bust of Epicurus from the Pergamon Museum, Berlin,
uploaded to Wikimedia Commons by Captmondo,
licensed CC BY-SA 3.0
Except images licensed otherwise, this presentation
is licensed CC BY 4.0
Roman copy of a bust of Epicurus, after a lost Greek
original, Wikimedia Commons, public domain
Socrates: 469-399
BCE
Plato: 427-348 BCE
Epicurus: 341-271 BCE
(also lived in Greece)
Lucretius: c. 94-54
BCE (Roman)
Macedonia & Greece, 336 BCE
Much of
Greece
conquered
by Philip of
Macedon
(Father of
Alexander
the Great)
Map of Macedonia,
Wikimedia Commons,
licensed CC BY SA 2.5
Alexander the Great’s empire, 334-
323 BCE
Macedon Empire, Wikimedia Commons, licensed CC BY SA 3.0
Texts we’re reading
• Epicurus: “Letter to Menoeceus”: a letter by
Epicurus to someone named Menoeceus, telling
him how to live a good life
• Epicurus: “Principal Doctrines”: a list of short
sayings by Epicurus, designed to be easily
remembered and put into practice
• Lucretius: Selections from On the Nature of
Things: a long work that closely follows Epicurus’
views
Epicurus: epistemology
Epicurus is an empiricist
• the original source of information for knowledge
is experience
o Either from sensation of things outside of us
or experience of our own thoughts and
feelings
Epicurus: physics
1. Reality is made up only of material bodies and void
o sense data shows us material bodies, and void
must exist for bodies to move or to be cut
o matter and void exhaust possibilities for what exists
2. Things cannot come into existence from nothing
3. So some material must be eternal, but large bodies
are not
Therefore, there must be small parts of matter (“atoms”)
that are not further divisible (or else could dissolve into
nothing), & they exist eternally
o universe is eternal
Epicurus & Lucretius on gods & soul
The gods do not control the universe; it works on its
own through principles of physics
There is no such
thing as an
immaterial, immortal
soul
o The soul does
exist, but it’s made
of atoms
o Soul & body bound
together; soulHermes, Dionysos, Ariadne & Poseidon, in the Louvre, from Wikimedia Commons,
Public Domain
Epicurus on death
“Letter to Menoeceus”: “Death is nothing to us.”
With winter comes death, Flickr photo by Keith Trice, licensed CC BY 2.0
Friday: outline this
argument &
evaluate it:
• Premises true?
• Conclusion
follows from
them?
Lucretius on death
What about the possibility of reincarnation? (p. 90)
What about the time before birth? (p. 94)
Why need knowledge of all this?
To live the best life possible
Best human life has the “highest good”:
• ultimate end/goal of all action
• that which is only ever sought as an intrinsic
good (good in itself), not as an instrumental
good (because it leads to something else
good)
The best life for humans
For Epicurus, highest good is pleasure (“Letter to
M” p. 2)
Can you think of anything else it might be?
Kinetic & static pleasures
• Kinetic pleasures (involve
movement)
o pleasures gotten from
fulfilling desires
o Problems with these/why
they wouldn’t be the best
pleasures?
• Static pleasure
o Pleasure felt when you don’t have unfulfilled
desires, when you have well being, lack of pain
Goal of life: Ataraxia
• having a life with a good deal of static pleasure
• lack of physical or mental pain, not having
unfulfilled desires, sense of peace and tranquility
(“Letter to M,” p. 2)
Tabitha the Tabby, Flickr photo shared by Steve
Johnson, licensed CC BY 2.0
Buddha statues at Hase-dera, Flickr photo by
Andrea Schaffer, licensed CC BY 2.0
How to live the best life
Natural desires
Cultivate and fulfill mainly natural, necessary
desires
Vain desires
come from “baseless
opinion” (Pr Doct #29)
Unnecessary
Always
unnecessary
(e.g., power,
wealth, fame,
immortality
Necessary
Need not bring pain if not
fulfilled, b/c can get rid of
desire fairly easily (Pr Doct
#26) (e.g., luxurious food &
clothing, (sometimes) sex
Bring pain if not
fulfilled; necessary for
happiness, health or
life itself (Ltr M p. 2)
(e.g., food, shelter,
rest, friendship)
Friendship important for best life
• Principal Doctrines 27 & 28
• Why would friends be so important for pleasurable
life?
• If the highest good is pleasure for oneself, then
one seeks friends for one’s own pleasure
o Can one really have good friendships then?
Unspoken, Flickr photo by Marina del Castell, licensed CC BY 2.0
Virtues important for best life
• Principal Doctrines 5, Letter to M p. 3
• In another Epicurean text, the virtues needed
include wisdom, temperance, courage, justice
• Epicurus’ view of justice, Pr. Doctrines 31-38
• Having these virtues is only instrumentally good:
good because leads to the kind of pleasurable life
Epicurus describes
o why/how would they?
Intro to Stoics
Epictetus: ca. 55-135 C.E.
Roman cities in Greece, by Marsyas, Wikimedia
Commons, Licensed CC-BY-SA
Diocesis Asiana 400 AD, wikimedia commons, public
domain
Stoics don’t think pleasure is the
greatest good
What might be some problems with saying that
pleasure is the greatest good?
• Is pleasure always good?
• Is there anything that might count as good in
life that isn’t so because it is pleasurable or
leads to pleasure?
The greatest good, acc. to
Stoics
Must be:
• intrinsically good (good in itself), never
instrumentally good (good only b/c it leads to
something else good)
• always good; can’t be put to bad use
What could fulfill such conditions?
For the Stoics, moral virtue is the greatest (and
indeed, the only) good thing
Readings for Stoics
• Epictetus, “Enchiridion” (handbook): a set of short
sayings meant to be memorized so you can more
easily live by them
• Sellars, “Stoic Ethics” from his book Stoicism
o There’s a link to an ebook posted on weekly
schedule for next week (need CWL)
o Or access on password-protected page
(password given in class)

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Epicurus and Lucretius on death and how to live well

  • 1. Epicurus & Lucretius PHIL 102, UBC Christina Hendricks Fall 2015 Bust of Epicurus from the Pergamon Museum, Berlin, uploaded to Wikimedia Commons by Captmondo, licensed CC BY-SA 3.0 Except images licensed otherwise, this presentation is licensed CC BY 4.0
  • 2. Roman copy of a bust of Epicurus, after a lost Greek original, Wikimedia Commons, public domain Socrates: 469-399 BCE Plato: 427-348 BCE Epicurus: 341-271 BCE (also lived in Greece) Lucretius: c. 94-54 BCE (Roman)
  • 3. Macedonia & Greece, 336 BCE Much of Greece conquered by Philip of Macedon (Father of Alexander the Great) Map of Macedonia, Wikimedia Commons, licensed CC BY SA 2.5
  • 4. Alexander the Great’s empire, 334- 323 BCE Macedon Empire, Wikimedia Commons, licensed CC BY SA 3.0
  • 5. Texts we’re reading • Epicurus: “Letter to Menoeceus”: a letter by Epicurus to someone named Menoeceus, telling him how to live a good life • Epicurus: “Principal Doctrines”: a list of short sayings by Epicurus, designed to be easily remembered and put into practice • Lucretius: Selections from On the Nature of Things: a long work that closely follows Epicurus’ views
  • 6. Epicurus: epistemology Epicurus is an empiricist • the original source of information for knowledge is experience o Either from sensation of things outside of us or experience of our own thoughts and feelings
  • 7. Epicurus: physics 1. Reality is made up only of material bodies and void o sense data shows us material bodies, and void must exist for bodies to move or to be cut o matter and void exhaust possibilities for what exists 2. Things cannot come into existence from nothing 3. So some material must be eternal, but large bodies are not Therefore, there must be small parts of matter (“atoms”) that are not further divisible (or else could dissolve into nothing), & they exist eternally o universe is eternal
  • 8. Epicurus & Lucretius on gods & soul The gods do not control the universe; it works on its own through principles of physics There is no such thing as an immaterial, immortal soul o The soul does exist, but it’s made of atoms o Soul & body bound together; soulHermes, Dionysos, Ariadne & Poseidon, in the Louvre, from Wikimedia Commons, Public Domain
  • 9. Epicurus on death “Letter to Menoeceus”: “Death is nothing to us.” With winter comes death, Flickr photo by Keith Trice, licensed CC BY 2.0 Friday: outline this argument & evaluate it: • Premises true? • Conclusion follows from them?
  • 10. Lucretius on death What about the possibility of reincarnation? (p. 90) What about the time before birth? (p. 94)
  • 11. Why need knowledge of all this? To live the best life possible Best human life has the “highest good”: • ultimate end/goal of all action • that which is only ever sought as an intrinsic good (good in itself), not as an instrumental good (because it leads to something else good)
  • 12. The best life for humans For Epicurus, highest good is pleasure (“Letter to M” p. 2) Can you think of anything else it might be?
  • 13. Kinetic & static pleasures • Kinetic pleasures (involve movement) o pleasures gotten from fulfilling desires o Problems with these/why they wouldn’t be the best pleasures? • Static pleasure o Pleasure felt when you don’t have unfulfilled desires, when you have well being, lack of pain
  • 14. Goal of life: Ataraxia • having a life with a good deal of static pleasure • lack of physical or mental pain, not having unfulfilled desires, sense of peace and tranquility (“Letter to M,” p. 2) Tabitha the Tabby, Flickr photo shared by Steve Johnson, licensed CC BY 2.0 Buddha statues at Hase-dera, Flickr photo by Andrea Schaffer, licensed CC BY 2.0
  • 15. How to live the best life Natural desires Cultivate and fulfill mainly natural, necessary desires Vain desires come from “baseless opinion” (Pr Doct #29) Unnecessary Always unnecessary (e.g., power, wealth, fame, immortality Necessary Need not bring pain if not fulfilled, b/c can get rid of desire fairly easily (Pr Doct #26) (e.g., luxurious food & clothing, (sometimes) sex Bring pain if not fulfilled; necessary for happiness, health or life itself (Ltr M p. 2) (e.g., food, shelter, rest, friendship)
  • 16. Friendship important for best life • Principal Doctrines 27 & 28 • Why would friends be so important for pleasurable life? • If the highest good is pleasure for oneself, then one seeks friends for one’s own pleasure o Can one really have good friendships then? Unspoken, Flickr photo by Marina del Castell, licensed CC BY 2.0
  • 17. Virtues important for best life • Principal Doctrines 5, Letter to M p. 3 • In another Epicurean text, the virtues needed include wisdom, temperance, courage, justice • Epicurus’ view of justice, Pr. Doctrines 31-38 • Having these virtues is only instrumentally good: good because leads to the kind of pleasurable life Epicurus describes o why/how would they?
  • 18. Intro to Stoics Epictetus: ca. 55-135 C.E. Roman cities in Greece, by Marsyas, Wikimedia Commons, Licensed CC-BY-SA Diocesis Asiana 400 AD, wikimedia commons, public domain
  • 19. Stoics don’t think pleasure is the greatest good What might be some problems with saying that pleasure is the greatest good? • Is pleasure always good? • Is there anything that might count as good in life that isn’t so because it is pleasurable or leads to pleasure?
  • 20. The greatest good, acc. to Stoics Must be: • intrinsically good (good in itself), never instrumentally good (good only b/c it leads to something else good) • always good; can’t be put to bad use What could fulfill such conditions? For the Stoics, moral virtue is the greatest (and indeed, the only) good thing
  • 21. Readings for Stoics • Epictetus, “Enchiridion” (handbook): a set of short sayings meant to be memorized so you can more easily live by them • Sellars, “Stoic Ethics” from his book Stoicism o There’s a link to an ebook posted on weekly schedule for next week (need CWL) o Or access on password-protected page (password given in class)