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CHOOSING YOUR ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE PROVIDER│ 15 MAY 2014
THE RIGHT ADVICE FOR LIFE
www.pricebailey.co.uk
AGENDA
GETTING THE MOST FROM YOUR ACCOUNTING
SOFTWARE SUPPLIER
 Brief intro
 Understanding the project
 Process improvement basics
 Selection methods
 Managing the costs
 Developing the relationship
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Introduction
Alan Becker FCCA
Manager – business
systems
Sage 200
Sage CRM
Other applications
Nick Mayhew FCA
Partner – Strategy and
development
Lead the business
systems function
Head of technology
Price Bailey Chartered accountants
£20m+ turnover,
250+ people
Been around for 76 years
www.pricebailey.co.uk
When accounting systems go
wrong
 Weak vision
 Poor planning
 Too technical
 Lack of user engagement
 Poor implementation process
 Unclear scope
 Selection process
 Wrong supplier or software
 Configuration/development errors
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Understanding the project
 Growth
 Change of needs
 Upgrading
 Efficiencies
 Change in competitive
environment
 Service
 Who are the key users?
 Who is affected? Who most?
 Technical affects – hardware and
systems integrations
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Understanding the project
 What are your goals?
 Which are most important?
 Fit with the organisation strategy?
 Is it a finance problem?
 User needs, who is most affected?
 Can we phase the project to make it manageable?
 What does success look like?
 Use this to produce a supplier brief
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Nothing happens unless you do it.
T I M I N G - Who & When ByA C T I O N P L A N SS T R A T E G I E S
ORGANISATION
PLAN
Date Revised: 21 October 2013
W H E R EN O W
• Income £1 million
• Many volunteers ordering
• No control, takes time
• Finance not value added
• Income £3 million
• Simplified ordering system in place
• Fewer suppliers, streamlined IT
• Better control and reporting
PROCESS REVIEW
KEY SUPPLIERS
VOLUNTEERS
Systems
1. Buy VISIO, do flow diagrams
2. Analyse the waste
3. 1 Page Plan top 20% suppliers
4. PSL process in place
5. Explain savings
6. Train new approach
7. Specify key characteristics and create matrix
8. See five systems demonstrated
1. MP Immediate
2. JS November
1. JS October
2. JS October
1. BM January
2. JS November
1. JS January
2. JS March
One page plan
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Understanding the project
Use a “Two-Pizza” team to
lead the project
You will need:
 Leadership
 Doers
 A carer
 A Thinker
(we have a diagnostic for this!)
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1. Overproduction
4. Inappropriate Processing
5. Unnecessary Inventory
3. Transporting
6. Unnecessary Motions
2. Waiting
7. Defects
Seven wastes
Process basics
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Process basics
Stop?
Do you really need to do this.
Many activities in organisations continue
long after the purpose they served has
ceased. If we stop, what will happen?
Outsource?
Assuming we do need the activity, does it
need to be done by us? Could it be done
more effectively by an outsourced
specialist?
Simplify?
Assuming the activity must continue in
house, is it over-complex? Do a Visio Flow
Chart. Analyse the VA and NVA steps.
Combine, delete, and re-order steps,
remove variation.
Automate?
Only when all other three aspects have
been reviewed should we consider
automation. If you automate the over
complex you will embed it.
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Process basics
Innocence Awareness Understanding Competence Excellence
People
Development
Process
Development
Chaos
Control
Simplify
Improved
Technology
Compete
x
x
World
Class
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Supplier selection
Alternatives
CRITERIA Weight
Supplier 1
30 15 25 20
25 12 15 20
15 8 8 10
30 15 5 10
TOTAL 100 50 53 60
Charity experience
Reputation
Software range
Approach
Supplier 2 Supplier 3 Supplier 4
13
15
14
5
47
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Supplier selection
Score
Criteria Weight S1 S2 S3 S4
Meeting scope 30 25 30 30 15
Experience 20 20 8 15 12
Support level 20 17 15 17 5
Supplier development capability 15 7 13 14 10
Safety/security/stability* 15 15 7 12 7
Total 100 84 73 88 42
Weighted product v supplier 49.8 48.9 53.4 39.6
Cost
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Supplier selection
 Demonstration
 Proposal
 Methodology
 Software range and ability
 Flexibility in approach
 Experience in your sector
 Reference clients
 Team
 Organisation size, strength
 Development and future
 Price
For major projects I see the leading candidates more than
twice before appointment
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Selection methods
Score
Criteria Weight Interaction Salesforce Oracle SAP
MS
Dynamics
Outlook Integration 20 19 7 15 15 19
Ease for User 20 20 16 19 13 20
Reporting 15 7 14 12 10 12
Database Integration 15 15 12 13 11 15
Process Automation 10 6 10 8 4 10
Development Potential 10 5 10 10 9 10
Service & Support 10 10 2 5 6 4
Total 100 82 71 82 69 90
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Managing costs
 The planning will stand you in good stead!
 Phase the implementation, cost for each key phase
 Be flexible!
 Communication and lines of command
 Go through and select what you can do, what they must do
 Play to your suppliers strengths and don’t lean on them too
much
 Do your part of the work – be ready to work hard
 Test environment and user acceptance testing crucial
You and your team will need to own the new
processes and the software.
The best way to get there is to use;
 See one
 Do one
 Teach one
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Successful implementation
Go live training
Walk the floor
New Habits?
Extra- helpdesk?Train the trainer?
Test launch
Wiki/FAQ
Hands on training
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Developing the relationship
 Review progress through the project
 Against your goals – measure it
 Look for future phases, further gains
 Meet once a year to blue-sky issues, and explore their
new developments
 If they offer customer seminars, go or send team
www.pricebailey.co.uk
Questions
?
www.pricebailey.co.uk
Thank you
Contact:
nickm@pricebailey.co.uk 07767 201450
Alanb@pricebailey.co.uk 07799 866025
Strategy and change management, process
design and specification, efficiency review
Sage 200, development, payroll, CRM and
much more.

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  • 1. CHOOSING YOUR ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE PROVIDER│ 15 MAY 2014 THE RIGHT ADVICE FOR LIFE
  • 2. www.pricebailey.co.uk AGENDA GETTING THE MOST FROM YOUR ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE SUPPLIER  Brief intro  Understanding the project  Process improvement basics  Selection methods  Managing the costs  Developing the relationship
  • 3. www.pricebailey.co.uk Introduction Alan Becker FCCA Manager – business systems Sage 200 Sage CRM Other applications Nick Mayhew FCA Partner – Strategy and development Lead the business systems function Head of technology Price Bailey Chartered accountants £20m+ turnover, 250+ people Been around for 76 years
  • 4. www.pricebailey.co.uk When accounting systems go wrong  Weak vision  Poor planning  Too technical  Lack of user engagement  Poor implementation process  Unclear scope  Selection process  Wrong supplier or software  Configuration/development errors
  • 5. www.pricebailey.co.uk Understanding the project  Growth  Change of needs  Upgrading  Efficiencies  Change in competitive environment  Service  Who are the key users?  Who is affected? Who most?  Technical affects – hardware and systems integrations
  • 6. www.pricebailey.co.uk Understanding the project  What are your goals?  Which are most important?  Fit with the organisation strategy?  Is it a finance problem?  User needs, who is most affected?  Can we phase the project to make it manageable?  What does success look like?  Use this to produce a supplier brief
  • 7. www.pricebailey.co.uk Nothing happens unless you do it. T I M I N G - Who & When ByA C T I O N P L A N SS T R A T E G I E S ORGANISATION PLAN Date Revised: 21 October 2013 W H E R EN O W • Income £1 million • Many volunteers ordering • No control, takes time • Finance not value added • Income £3 million • Simplified ordering system in place • Fewer suppliers, streamlined IT • Better control and reporting PROCESS REVIEW KEY SUPPLIERS VOLUNTEERS Systems 1. Buy VISIO, do flow diagrams 2. Analyse the waste 3. 1 Page Plan top 20% suppliers 4. PSL process in place 5. Explain savings 6. Train new approach 7. Specify key characteristics and create matrix 8. See five systems demonstrated 1. MP Immediate 2. JS November 1. JS October 2. JS October 1. BM January 2. JS November 1. JS January 2. JS March One page plan
  • 8. www.pricebailey.co.uk Understanding the project Use a “Two-Pizza” team to lead the project You will need:  Leadership  Doers  A carer  A Thinker (we have a diagnostic for this!)
  • 9. www.pricebailey.co.uk 1. Overproduction 4. Inappropriate Processing 5. Unnecessary Inventory 3. Transporting 6. Unnecessary Motions 2. Waiting 7. Defects Seven wastes Process basics
  • 10. www.pricebailey.co.uk Process basics Stop? Do you really need to do this. Many activities in organisations continue long after the purpose they served has ceased. If we stop, what will happen? Outsource? Assuming we do need the activity, does it need to be done by us? Could it be done more effectively by an outsourced specialist? Simplify? Assuming the activity must continue in house, is it over-complex? Do a Visio Flow Chart. Analyse the VA and NVA steps. Combine, delete, and re-order steps, remove variation. Automate? Only when all other three aspects have been reviewed should we consider automation. If you automate the over complex you will embed it.
  • 11. www.pricebailey.co.uk Process basics Innocence Awareness Understanding Competence Excellence People Development Process Development Chaos Control Simplify Improved Technology Compete x x World Class
  • 12. www.pricebailey.co.uk Supplier selection Alternatives CRITERIA Weight Supplier 1 30 15 25 20 25 12 15 20 15 8 8 10 30 15 5 10 TOTAL 100 50 53 60 Charity experience Reputation Software range Approach Supplier 2 Supplier 3 Supplier 4 13 15 14 5 47
  • 13. www.pricebailey.co.uk Supplier selection Score Criteria Weight S1 S2 S3 S4 Meeting scope 30 25 30 30 15 Experience 20 20 8 15 12 Support level 20 17 15 17 5 Supplier development capability 15 7 13 14 10 Safety/security/stability* 15 15 7 12 7 Total 100 84 73 88 42 Weighted product v supplier 49.8 48.9 53.4 39.6 Cost
  • 14. www.pricebailey.co.uk Supplier selection  Demonstration  Proposal  Methodology  Software range and ability  Flexibility in approach  Experience in your sector  Reference clients  Team  Organisation size, strength  Development and future  Price For major projects I see the leading candidates more than twice before appointment
  • 15. www.pricebailey.co.uk Selection methods Score Criteria Weight Interaction Salesforce Oracle SAP MS Dynamics Outlook Integration 20 19 7 15 15 19 Ease for User 20 20 16 19 13 20 Reporting 15 7 14 12 10 12 Database Integration 15 15 12 13 11 15 Process Automation 10 6 10 8 4 10 Development Potential 10 5 10 10 9 10 Service & Support 10 10 2 5 6 4 Total 100 82 71 82 69 90
  • 16. www.pricebailey.co.uk Managing costs  The planning will stand you in good stead!  Phase the implementation, cost for each key phase  Be flexible!  Communication and lines of command  Go through and select what you can do, what they must do  Play to your suppliers strengths and don’t lean on them too much  Do your part of the work – be ready to work hard  Test environment and user acceptance testing crucial You and your team will need to own the new processes and the software. The best way to get there is to use;  See one  Do one  Teach one
  • 17. www.pricebailey.co.uk Successful implementation Go live training Walk the floor New Habits? Extra- helpdesk?Train the trainer? Test launch Wiki/FAQ Hands on training
  • 18. www.pricebailey.co.uk Developing the relationship  Review progress through the project  Against your goals – measure it  Look for future phases, further gains  Meet once a year to blue-sky issues, and explore their new developments  If they offer customer seminars, go or send team
  • 20. www.pricebailey.co.uk Thank you Contact: nickm@pricebailey.co.uk 07767 201450 Alanb@pricebailey.co.uk 07799 866025 Strategy and change management, process design and specification, efficiency review Sage 200, development, payroll, CRM and much more.