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Quantum time
                            Is time quantized in the same way that space is
                                               quantized?



                         John Ashmead
           john.ashmead@timeandquantummechanics.com
                             2008


Sunday, November 29, 2009
`Clearly,' the Time Traveller
                            proceeded, `any
                            real body must have extension in four
                            directions: it must have Length,
                            Breadth, Thickness, and--Duration.
                            But through a natural infirmity of the
                            flesh, which I will explain to you in a
                            moment, we incline to overlook this
                            fact. There are really four dimensions,
                            three which we call the three planes
                            of Space, and a fourth, Time. There is,
                            however, a tendency to draw an
                            unreal distinction between the
                            former three dimensions and the
                            latter, because it happens that our
                            consciousness moves intermittently
                            in one direction along the latter from
                            the beginning to the end of our lives.'




Sunday, November 29, 2009
Block universe




                            Evolving universe
Sunday, November 29, 2009
Relativity
                      “Henceforth space by itself, and time by itself, are
                      doomed to fade away into mere shadows, and only a kind
                      of union of the two will preserve an independent reality.”
                      -- Minkowski


                   • time and space mix’d: on way into a black
                            hole, they even change places
                   • block universe naturally static: 80+ pages
                            to define an evolving time.

Sunday, November 29, 2009
Quantum mechanics

                   • space is fuzzy
                   • time is a parameter
                   • we build the wave function at the next time
                            instant based on the wave function at the
                            current



Sunday, November 29, 2009
How to combine?
                   • Strings
                   • Loop quantum gravity
                   • Lots of others

                       All are new physics
Sunday, November 29, 2009
This is often the way it is in physics - our
             mistake is not that we take our theories too
             seriously, but that we do not take them
             seriously enough. It is always hard to realize that
             these numbers and equations we play with at
             our desks have something to do with the real
             world. Even worse, there often seems to be a
             general agreement that certain phenomena are
             just not fit subjects for respectable theoretical
             and experimental effort.
             -- Steven Weinberg


Sunday, November 29, 2009
Laboratory time




                 What clocks measure
Sunday, November 29, 2009
Quantum wave function
                                    1

                                 0.75                          − it 1  − 1 t2
                                                     ϕ (t ) =  e −    e
                                                                           2
                                                                     e
                                  0.5

                                 0.25




                                         rea
                                            l
                   -4       -2                          2                         4
                                 -0.25

                                 -0.5

                                                ry
                                                na
                                            agi
                                 -0.75
                                           im


                                   -1




Sunday, November 29, 2009
Train from Berne to
                                   Zurich

                   • measure in time: t hours to Zurich
                   • measure in distance: x kilometers to Zurich


Sunday, November 29, 2009
double slit experiment




Sunday, November 29, 2009
small & large
                                    dimensions
                   • trip measured in kilometers
                   • wave function measured in nanometers
                   • “real” x is total of large and small
                   • Now, what happens if we take this position
                            for time???


Sunday, November 29, 2009
Postulate wave function
                  in four dimensions
                            t




                                 x




Sunday, November 29, 2009
how to evolve
                                                                  t




                                                                           x


                                               t



                                                                      lab time = 2
                                                       x
                            t



                                                   lab time = 1
                                     x




                                lab time = 0




Sunday, November 29, 2009
path integrals




Sunday, November 29, 2009
Feynman diagrams
                                  t




                                        x




Sunday, November 29, 2009
almost no change

                   • path integrals add sum over paths in time
                            to sum over paths in space
                   • just 4/3 more algebra
                   • and a few technical complications which I
                            will not distress you with



Sunday, November 29, 2009
did you break anything

                   • internal contradictions?
                   • consistent in appropriate limits?
                   • should it have been seen already?


Sunday, November 29, 2009
• thanks to a subtlety of relativistic mechanics,
                    the average trajectory is identical for both
                    quantum time & regular time
            • quantum time packets do spread more in time
Sunday, November 29, 2009
beam & apparatus must
                       change
                   • have to send a beam which is changing in
                            time
                   • through a gate which is open and closed
                   • normally, we let beams settle down, but
                            now it is fiddly bits at the ends we are
                            interested in



Sunday, November 29, 2009
why bound states?

                   • Bohr rule: fits evenly around the atom
                   • what is “fits evenly” in time?
                   • But only those orbits which “fit evenly” add
                            coherently




Sunday, November 29, 2009
mass is measure of
                               width in time
                   • larger is wider
                   • for electrons, is 10 to the -21st seconds
                            (zeptoseconds)
                   • for photons is zero (so you can’t find effect
                            using only photons)



Sunday, November 29, 2009
coherent interference




Sunday, November 29, 2009
lamb shift
                            E




                                             τ




Sunday, November 29, 2009
same answer, no infinity

                     E




                                  τ


Sunday, November 29, 2009
one gate
                            t
                                              D



                                    T2

                                         T1
                            S


                                L
                                     G            x




Sunday, November 29, 2009
two gates
                                             G1                            G2
                            t
                                                                                      D
                                                                 T4( 2 )
                                                                            T3( 2 )

                                      (1 )
                                     T2                          T2( 2 )

                                                                 T1( 2 )
                            S                     T1(1)

                                L1                        L 21

                                             L2                                           x




Sunday, November 29, 2009
aharonov bohm
                              experiment




Sunday, November 29, 2009
AB in time
                                                            ∆t
                            t



                                                                     B
                                       D            D′
                                               ∆Φ


                                    V =0                 V =Φ


                                           C        C′
                                A
                                                                 x




Sunday, November 29, 2009
pauli exclusion principle




Sunday, November 29, 2009
symmetric fermions
                            τ pa
                               ′                   ′
                                                  pb              ′
                                                                 pa                   ′
                                                                                     pb




                                        k
                                                                       k


                                        1    1                        1    1
                                           !                             !
                                         2    2                        2    2
                                                                                      x
                                   pa                  pb   pa                  pb




Sunday, November 29, 2009
Lindner’s double slit in
                            time




Sunday, November 29, 2009
Short photon pulse acts
                   like two gates




Sunday, November 29, 2009
review of requirements

                   • well-defined
                   • symmetric between time and space
                   • consistent with known
                   • testable
                   • reasonably simple

Sunday, November 29, 2009
uses

                   • fun with time
                   • 300+ experiments
                   • starting point for quantum gravity
                   • covert transmissions
                   • quantum computers

Sunday, November 29, 2009
thanks!
               • Miriam Kelly
               • Jonathan Smith
               • Ferne Welch
               • Graham & Gaylord Ashmead
               • Linda Kalb
               • Stewart Personick
               • Fred Herz
               • Host of quasi-willing ears
Sunday, November 29, 2009
• The End of Time - Julian Barbour
                     • Time Travel in Einstein’s Universe - J.
                            Richard Gott
                     • Physics of the Impossible - Michio Kaku
                     • Time Traveler - Ronald L. Mallett
                     • Time’s Arrow & Archimedes’ Point - Huw
                            Price
                     • Timeless Reality - Victor J. Stenger
                     • The New Time Travelers - David Toomey
Sunday, November 29, 2009

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Time & Quantum Mechanics

  • 1. Quantum time Is time quantized in the same way that space is quantized? John Ashmead john.ashmead@timeandquantummechanics.com 2008 Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 2. `Clearly,' the Time Traveller proceeded, `any real body must have extension in four directions: it must have Length, Breadth, Thickness, and--Duration. But through a natural infirmity of the flesh, which I will explain to you in a moment, we incline to overlook this fact. There are really four dimensions, three which we call the three planes of Space, and a fourth, Time. There is, however, a tendency to draw an unreal distinction between the former three dimensions and the latter, because it happens that our consciousness moves intermittently in one direction along the latter from the beginning to the end of our lives.' Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 3. Block universe Evolving universe Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 4. Relativity “Henceforth space by itself, and time by itself, are doomed to fade away into mere shadows, and only a kind of union of the two will preserve an independent reality.” -- Minkowski • time and space mix’d: on way into a black hole, they even change places • block universe naturally static: 80+ pages to define an evolving time. Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 5. Quantum mechanics • space is fuzzy • time is a parameter • we build the wave function at the next time instant based on the wave function at the current Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 6. How to combine? • Strings • Loop quantum gravity • Lots of others All are new physics Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 7. This is often the way it is in physics - our mistake is not that we take our theories too seriously, but that we do not take them seriously enough. It is always hard to realize that these numbers and equations we play with at our desks have something to do with the real world. Even worse, there often seems to be a general agreement that certain phenomena are just not fit subjects for respectable theoretical and experimental effort. -- Steven Weinberg Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 8. Laboratory time What clocks measure Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 9. Quantum wave function 1 0.75  − it 1  − 1 t2 ϕ (t ) =  e − e 2  e 0.5 0.25 rea l -4 -2 2 4 -0.25 -0.5 ry na agi -0.75 im -1 Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 10. Train from Berne to Zurich • measure in time: t hours to Zurich • measure in distance: x kilometers to Zurich Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 11. double slit experiment Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 12. small & large dimensions • trip measured in kilometers • wave function measured in nanometers • “real” x is total of large and small • Now, what happens if we take this position for time??? Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 13. Postulate wave function in four dimensions t x Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 14. how to evolve t x t lab time = 2 x t lab time = 1 x lab time = 0 Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 16. Feynman diagrams t x Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 17. almost no change • path integrals add sum over paths in time to sum over paths in space • just 4/3 more algebra • and a few technical complications which I will not distress you with Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 18. did you break anything • internal contradictions? • consistent in appropriate limits? • should it have been seen already? Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 19. • thanks to a subtlety of relativistic mechanics, the average trajectory is identical for both quantum time & regular time • quantum time packets do spread more in time Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 20. beam & apparatus must change • have to send a beam which is changing in time • through a gate which is open and closed • normally, we let beams settle down, but now it is fiddly bits at the ends we are interested in Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 21. why bound states? • Bohr rule: fits evenly around the atom • what is “fits evenly” in time? • But only those orbits which “fit evenly” add coherently Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 22. mass is measure of width in time • larger is wider • for electrons, is 10 to the -21st seconds (zeptoseconds) • for photons is zero (so you can’t find effect using only photons) Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 24. lamb shift E τ Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 25. same answer, no infinity E τ Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 26. one gate t D T2 T1 S L G x Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 27. two gates G1 G2 t D T4( 2 ) T3( 2 ) (1 ) T2 T2( 2 ) T1( 2 ) S T1(1) L1 L 21 L2 x Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 28. aharonov bohm experiment Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 29. AB in time ∆t t B D D′ ∆Φ V =0 V =Φ C C′ A x Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 31. symmetric fermions τ pa ′ ′ pb ′ pa ′ pb k k 1 1 1 1 ! ! 2 2 2 2 x pa pb pa pb Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 32. Lindner’s double slit in time Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 33. Short photon pulse acts like two gates Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 34. review of requirements • well-defined • symmetric between time and space • consistent with known • testable • reasonably simple Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 35. uses • fun with time • 300+ experiments • starting point for quantum gravity • covert transmissions • quantum computers Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 36. thanks! • Miriam Kelly • Jonathan Smith • Ferne Welch • Graham & Gaylord Ashmead • Linda Kalb • Stewart Personick • Fred Herz • Host of quasi-willing ears Sunday, November 29, 2009
  • 37. • The End of Time - Julian Barbour • Time Travel in Einstein’s Universe - J. Richard Gott • Physics of the Impossible - Michio Kaku • Time Traveler - Ronald L. Mallett • Time’s Arrow & Archimedes’ Point - Huw Price • Timeless Reality - Victor J. Stenger • The New Time Travelers - David Toomey Sunday, November 29, 2009