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What is a condensing boiler?
The Principles of Combustion
Turndown
Short Cycling
Multi-Boiler Operating Principle
Efficiency Standards
Patterson-Kelley Design
Things to Remember
Hot Water Seminar
What is a condensing boiler?
EVERY BOILER IS A CONDENSING BOILER
•

Every boiler will condense when the return water temperature
falls below the dew point

•

But not every boiler is designed to condense

•

Boilers designed to condense include heat exchangers
constructed of specialized materials to capture latent heat

•

Why condensing boilers?
How do we make it condense?
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Principles of Combustion
Oxygen & Efficiency
Oxygen & CO2
CO2 vs. Dew Point
Dew Point vs. Return Temperature
Natural Gas Combustion
Excess air

1 part gas

10 parts air
Stoichiometry
Combustion Process
PERFECT Combustion/stoichiometric air-fuel ratio: The stoichiometric combustion or perfect
combustion occurs when fuel is burned using only the theoretical amount of air. Theoretical
amount of air is the amount of air used to achieve perfect combustion in a laboratory. When
burned, all fuel and air is consumed without any excess left over.
COMPLETE Combustion: is combustion that occurs when all fuel is burned using the minimum
amount of air above the theoretical amount of air required to burn the fuel. With complete
combustion, fuel is burned at the highest combustion efficiency with minimum polluting
emissions.
INCOMPLETE Combustion: If an insufficient amount of air is supplied to the burner, unburned
fuel, soot, smoke, and carbon monoxide exhausts from the boiler - resulting in heat transfer
surface fouling, pollution, lower combustion efficiency, flame instability and a potential for
explosion. To avoid inefficient and unsafe conditions boilers normally operate at an excess air
level
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•

if air content is higher than the stoichiometric ratio - the mixture is said to be fuel-lean
if air content is less than the stoichiometric ratio - the mixture is fuel-rich
Definitions of Efficiency
• Combustion Efficiency: 100 - flue loss. This is the
effectiveness of the burner only and relates to it’s ability to
completely burn fuel.
• Thermal Efficiency: Output/input. This is the effectiveness
of the heat transfer in the heat exchanger.
• Seasonal efficiency/Part load efficiency: Overall
effectiveness of boiler system throughout entire heating,
season takes into account cycling losses. (No official test
procedure).
• Turndown Efficiency: Efficiency of multi-boiler batteries
throughout firing range.
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Oxygen & Efficiency
Oxygen and Carbon Dioxide
• The goal is to maximize
efficiency while ensuring
reliability and safety

30.0

- 5% oxygen
- 9% carbon dioxide
- 27% excess air

Excess Air

28.0

98.00
26.0
24.0

20.0

Percent (%)

18.0

96.00

Patterson
Kelley
Combustion
Efficiency

94.00
92.00

16.0
90.00
14.0
12.0
10.0

88.00

CO2

86.00

O2

84.00

8.0
6.0
4.0
82.00
2.0
0.0

80.00

Efficiency (%)

22.0

• Many manufacturers
recommend tuning for:

100.00
Carbon Dioxide vs. Dew Point
•

As carbon dioxide falls,
the dew point falls

13.0

180.0
175.0
170.0
165.0
160.0
155.0
150.0
145.0
140.0
135.0
130.0
125.0
120.0
115.0
110.0
105.0
100.0
95.0
90.0
85.0
80.0

12.0

•

•

At 11.7% carbon
dioxide (perfect
stoichiometric
combustion), the dew
point is approximately
140⁰ F.
At 9% carbon dioxide,
the dew point is
approximately 126⁰ F.

11.0
10.0
9.0
8.0
7.0
6.0

5.0
4.0

15.0

14.0

13.0

12.0

11.0

10.0

9.0

8.0

7.0

6.0

5.0

4.0

3.0

2.0

3.0
1.0

At 6% carbon dioxide,
the dew point is
approximately 112⁰ F.

0.0

•

CO2 (%)

Dew Point
Dew Point vs. Return Temp.
• Consider your system
design, supply water temp.,
and return water temp,
given efficient, reliable, and
safe combustion:
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5% oxygen
9% carbon dioxide
27% excess air
126⁰ F dew point
What is turndown?
• Turndown is the ratio of Btus consumed at high fire
relative to the Btus consumed at low fire.
• A turndown of 2:1 indicates that a boiler is capable
of firing at 50% of its maximum firing rate.
• Below 50% of its maximum firing rate, the boiler will
shut off. Above 50%, it will modulate between 50%
and 100% depending on load.
Why is turndown good?
• Turndown allows the boiler or boilers to match the
load as it varies.
• Turndown prevents the boilers from turning on and
off frequently (short-cycling) in low load conditions.
• Turndown can improve system efficiency.
• Remember: As long as good combustion is
maintained, condensing boilers are most efficient at
low fire.
More Isn’t Always Better
• Why?
1.

Mechanical limitations of
standard gas valves

2.

Incomplete mixing of air and
gas inside the pre-mix burner

3.

Flame stability

• The current practical limit to
turndown is approximately 5:1.
• “High turndown” boilers (10:1 and
greater) are very inefficient at low
fire.
More Isn’t Always Better
Remember high excess air = inefficiency. More specifically:
High excess air =
High oxygen =
Low carbon dioxide =
Low dew point =
Boiler never condenses =
High turndown boilers are inefficient at low fire
If the dew point is low, does it matter what the return
water temperature is?
Turndown Optimization
• Turndown across multiple boilers is additive: Four boilers, each
with 5:1 turndown, have a system turndown of 20:1
• To maximize boiler system efficiency:

- Select multiple boilers with 5:1 turndowns
- Operate the boilers such that the maximum number of boilers is
firing at any given load
- Assuming good combustion, condensing boilers are most
efficient at low fire
HTD vs. LTD – 4,000,000 Btus
Typical Outdoor Air Reset
• Design for 180° F
(design day 0° F)

190
180
Supply Water
Temperature
(°F) - Standard

170
160

• ∆T at 20° F

150
140

• Dew point of 126°
F (9% CO2)
• Condensing
boilers operate
down to approx.
25° F

Return Water
Temperature
(°F) - Standard

130
120
110
100
90
80
70
70 65 60 55 50 45 40 35 30 25 20 15 10

5

0

-5 -10
Hot Water Boiler Laws
• 1) Maintain 140 F Return Temperature to the
Boiler (Unless Condensing Boiler)
• 2) We Must Have Flow, Turbulent Flow
• 3) Maintain Proper Temperature profiles
Across the Boiler
• 4) Do Not Enable/Disable the Boiler Plant
• 5) Prevent Boiler Short Cycling
• 6) Provide Adequate Combustion Air and
www.degreedays.net
Maintain Good Combustion Settings
HTD vs. LTD
97.0%
96.0%
95.0%
94.0%

Neither Boiler Condensing

93.0%
Combined Efficiency HTD

92.0%
91.0%
90.0%

Combined Efficiency LTD

89.0%

HTD Not Condensing

88.0%
87.0%

Output (Btus/Hr)

0

200,000

400,000

600,000

800,000

1,000,000

1,200,000

1,400,000

1,600,000

1,800,000

2,000,000

2,200,000

2,400,000

2,600,000

2,800,000

3,000,000

3,200,000

3,400,000

3,600,000

3,800,000

4,000,000

86.0%
HTD vs. LTD – 55% Load
97.0%
96.0%
95.0%

Combined Efficiency HTD

94.0%

Combined Efficiency LTD

93.0%
92.0%
91.0%
90.0%
89.0%

HTD Not Condensing

88.0%

87.0%
86.0%

Output (Btus/Hr)

84% of total
operating
hours in this
range
HTD vs. LTD – 20% Load
97.0%
Combined Efficiency HTD

96.0%
95.0%

Combined Efficiency LTD

94.0%

9% difference
93.0%
92.0%
91.0%

33% of total
operating
hours in this
range

90.0%
89.0%

88.0%
87.0%
86.0%
800,000

600,000

400,000
Output (Btus/Hr)

200,000

0
Outdoor Air Reset - Optimized
•

Rule of thumb: Every 4⁰ F
decrease in supply water
temp. results in a 1%
savings

•

Increase ∆T from 20° to
40° F

•

Design for 180° F at
design day (-10 ° F)

•

Dew point of 126° F (9%
CO2)

•

Condensing boilers
operate down to approx.
3° F

190
185
180
175
170
165
160
155
150
145
140
135
130
125
120
115
110
105
100
95
90
85
80
75
70

Supply Water
Temperature
(°F) - Standard

Supply Water
Temperature
(°F) - Optimized

Return Water
Temperature
(°F) - Standard

Return Water
Temperature
(°F) - Optimized

70 65 60 55 50 45 40 35 30 25 20 15 10

5

0

-5 -10
Hot Water Boiler Laws
• 1) Maintain 140 F Return Temperature to the
Boiler (Unless Condensing Boiler)
• 2) We Must Have Flow, Turbulent Flow
• 3) Maintain Proper Temperature profiles
Across the Boiler
• 4) Do Not Enable/Disable the Boiler Plant
• 5) Prevent Boiler Short Cycling
• 6) Provide Adequate Combustion Air and
Maintain Good Combustion Settings
HTD vs. LTD – Optimized OAR
97.0%
96.0%
95.0%

Combined Efficiency HTD

Neither Boiler Condensing

94.0%

Combined Efficiency LTD

93.0%
92.0%
91.0%
90.0%
89.0%

HTD Not Condensing

88.0%
87.0%

0

200,000

400,000

600,000

800,000

1,000,000

1,200,000

1,400,000

1,600,000

1,800,000

2,000,000

2,200,000

2,400,000

2,600,000

2,800,000

3,000,000

3,200,000

3,400,000

3,600,000

3,800,000

4,000,000

86.0%
HTD vs. LTD – Optimized OAR
97.0%
96.0%
95.0%

Efficiency Gained By Optimized OAR

94.0%
93.0%

92.0%

Original OAR Curve
91.0%
90.0%
89.0%
88.0%
87.0%
86.0%
0

200,000

400,000

600,000

800,000

1,000,000

1,200,000

1,400,000

1,600,000

1,800,000

2,000,000

2,200,000

2,400,000

2,600,000

2,800,000

3,000,000

3,200,000

3,400,000

3,600,000

3,800,000

4,000,000

Hybrid Systems

97.0%

96.0%

Noncondensing Boiler Here?
95.0%

Combined Efficiency HTD

94.0%
Combined Efficiency LTD

93.0%

92.0%

91.0%

90.0%

89.0%

88.0%

87.0%

86.0%
Efficiency Standards
• No (realistic) standard testing variables established
• No testing for multi-boiler batteries (additive turndown)
• AHRI is the best source we have

• Combustion efficiency vs. thermal efficiency
• CO2 and efficiency
• How do you read AHRI’s Certificates?
• How do these ratings compare to manufacturers’ manuals?
ANSI Z21.13 (CSA4.9) & BTS 2000
• Unrealistic conditions
• 180 supply temp
• 80 return temp
• 100% firing rate
• 30 minutes heat soak
• Take measurements
From our manual…
HTD Boiler – 20:1
From their manual…

HTD Section

What is the dew point at 1.1% CO2?
ANSI Flue Loss Calculator

At 1.1% CO2, the dew point is 77.9⁰ F
How is this possible?
PK Approach to Boiler Design
• Only aluminum and stainless steel are approved by
ASHRAE
• Entire heat exchanger must be designed to condense
• Heat exchanger design must work in primarysecondary and variable primary systems
• On-board controls should be capable of sequencing,
system optimization, and outdoor air reset
Why does PK perform better?
• Unique pressure vessel design allows for unparalleled
heating surface to water volume
• Single cast aluminum alloy heat exchanger
• Aluminum is 10x more conductive than stainless steel
• Casting allows us to control velocity and turbulence on
the fire and water sides
• Counter flow for maximum heat transfer
View of the gas side section. Flow
remains turbulent across the burner’s
entire modulation range.
Cut-away view of the
waterside heat
exchanger. Note six
passes, each one smaller
than the one before.
Top mounted burner
fires down as the water
flows up through the
heat exchanger.
Hughes Debuts PK Stainless
Remember These Key Points
• 9% CO2 is practical
• RWT must be below 126⁰ F
• HTD boilers may not condense below 5:1 regardless of RWT
• Select multiple boilers with 5:1 turndowns (additive)
• Compare AHRI CO2 (and efficiency) to manufacturer’s manual
• Look for 95% or better at 9% CO2
• Per ASHRAE, only AI and SS are approved for condensing boilers
• Entire heat exchanger must be designed to condense
Additional Presentation Modules
• Hybrid Systems: Condensing & Non-Condensing
Boilers in New and Existing Projects
• System Design: Primary/Secondary vs. Variable
Primary & Preventing Short-Cycling
• Domestic Hot Water Priority in Condensing Boiler
Applications
Hughes Machinery Presents:

Hot Water Boiler Engineering Seminar
TBD, February 2014
8:00 A.M to 5:00 P.M.
6-1/2 PDHs
14400 College Blvd.
Lenexa, KS 66215
Combustion in Condensing Boilers

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Combustion in Condensing Boilers

  • 1.
  • 2. Agenda • • • • • • • • • What is a condensing boiler? The Principles of Combustion Turndown Short Cycling Multi-Boiler Operating Principle Efficiency Standards Patterson-Kelley Design Things to Remember Hot Water Seminar
  • 3. What is a condensing boiler? EVERY BOILER IS A CONDENSING BOILER • Every boiler will condense when the return water temperature falls below the dew point • But not every boiler is designed to condense • Boilers designed to condense include heat exchangers constructed of specialized materials to capture latent heat • Why condensing boilers?
  • 4. How do we make it condense? • • • • • Principles of Combustion Oxygen & Efficiency Oxygen & CO2 CO2 vs. Dew Point Dew Point vs. Return Temperature
  • 5. Natural Gas Combustion Excess air 1 part gas 10 parts air
  • 7. Combustion Process PERFECT Combustion/stoichiometric air-fuel ratio: The stoichiometric combustion or perfect combustion occurs when fuel is burned using only the theoretical amount of air. Theoretical amount of air is the amount of air used to achieve perfect combustion in a laboratory. When burned, all fuel and air is consumed without any excess left over. COMPLETE Combustion: is combustion that occurs when all fuel is burned using the minimum amount of air above the theoretical amount of air required to burn the fuel. With complete combustion, fuel is burned at the highest combustion efficiency with minimum polluting emissions. INCOMPLETE Combustion: If an insufficient amount of air is supplied to the burner, unburned fuel, soot, smoke, and carbon monoxide exhausts from the boiler - resulting in heat transfer surface fouling, pollution, lower combustion efficiency, flame instability and a potential for explosion. To avoid inefficient and unsafe conditions boilers normally operate at an excess air level • • if air content is higher than the stoichiometric ratio - the mixture is said to be fuel-lean if air content is less than the stoichiometric ratio - the mixture is fuel-rich
  • 8. Definitions of Efficiency • Combustion Efficiency: 100 - flue loss. This is the effectiveness of the burner only and relates to it’s ability to completely burn fuel. • Thermal Efficiency: Output/input. This is the effectiveness of the heat transfer in the heat exchanger. • Seasonal efficiency/Part load efficiency: Overall effectiveness of boiler system throughout entire heating, season takes into account cycling losses. (No official test procedure). • Turndown Efficiency: Efficiency of multi-boiler batteries throughout firing range. 8
  • 10. Oxygen and Carbon Dioxide • The goal is to maximize efficiency while ensuring reliability and safety 30.0 - 5% oxygen - 9% carbon dioxide - 27% excess air Excess Air 28.0 98.00 26.0 24.0 20.0 Percent (%) 18.0 96.00 Patterson Kelley Combustion Efficiency 94.00 92.00 16.0 90.00 14.0 12.0 10.0 88.00 CO2 86.00 O2 84.00 8.0 6.0 4.0 82.00 2.0 0.0 80.00 Efficiency (%) 22.0 • Many manufacturers recommend tuning for: 100.00
  • 11. Carbon Dioxide vs. Dew Point • As carbon dioxide falls, the dew point falls 13.0 180.0 175.0 170.0 165.0 160.0 155.0 150.0 145.0 140.0 135.0 130.0 125.0 120.0 115.0 110.0 105.0 100.0 95.0 90.0 85.0 80.0 12.0 • • At 11.7% carbon dioxide (perfect stoichiometric combustion), the dew point is approximately 140⁰ F. At 9% carbon dioxide, the dew point is approximately 126⁰ F. 11.0 10.0 9.0 8.0 7.0 6.0 5.0 4.0 15.0 14.0 13.0 12.0 11.0 10.0 9.0 8.0 7.0 6.0 5.0 4.0 3.0 2.0 3.0 1.0 At 6% carbon dioxide, the dew point is approximately 112⁰ F. 0.0 • CO2 (%) Dew Point
  • 12. Dew Point vs. Return Temp. • Consider your system design, supply water temp., and return water temp, given efficient, reliable, and safe combustion: - 5% oxygen 9% carbon dioxide 27% excess air 126⁰ F dew point
  • 13. What is turndown? • Turndown is the ratio of Btus consumed at high fire relative to the Btus consumed at low fire. • A turndown of 2:1 indicates that a boiler is capable of firing at 50% of its maximum firing rate. • Below 50% of its maximum firing rate, the boiler will shut off. Above 50%, it will modulate between 50% and 100% depending on load.
  • 14. Why is turndown good? • Turndown allows the boiler or boilers to match the load as it varies. • Turndown prevents the boilers from turning on and off frequently (short-cycling) in low load conditions. • Turndown can improve system efficiency. • Remember: As long as good combustion is maintained, condensing boilers are most efficient at low fire.
  • 15. More Isn’t Always Better • Why? 1. Mechanical limitations of standard gas valves 2. Incomplete mixing of air and gas inside the pre-mix burner 3. Flame stability • The current practical limit to turndown is approximately 5:1. • “High turndown” boilers (10:1 and greater) are very inefficient at low fire.
  • 16. More Isn’t Always Better Remember high excess air = inefficiency. More specifically: High excess air = High oxygen = Low carbon dioxide = Low dew point = Boiler never condenses = High turndown boilers are inefficient at low fire If the dew point is low, does it matter what the return water temperature is?
  • 17. Turndown Optimization • Turndown across multiple boilers is additive: Four boilers, each with 5:1 turndown, have a system turndown of 20:1 • To maximize boiler system efficiency: - Select multiple boilers with 5:1 turndowns - Operate the boilers such that the maximum number of boilers is firing at any given load - Assuming good combustion, condensing boilers are most efficient at low fire
  • 18.
  • 19. HTD vs. LTD – 4,000,000 Btus
  • 20. Typical Outdoor Air Reset • Design for 180° F (design day 0° F) 190 180 Supply Water Temperature (°F) - Standard 170 160 • ∆T at 20° F 150 140 • Dew point of 126° F (9% CO2) • Condensing boilers operate down to approx. 25° F Return Water Temperature (°F) - Standard 130 120 110 100 90 80 70 70 65 60 55 50 45 40 35 30 25 20 15 10 5 0 -5 -10
  • 21. Hot Water Boiler Laws • 1) Maintain 140 F Return Temperature to the Boiler (Unless Condensing Boiler) • 2) We Must Have Flow, Turbulent Flow • 3) Maintain Proper Temperature profiles Across the Boiler • 4) Do Not Enable/Disable the Boiler Plant • 5) Prevent Boiler Short Cycling • 6) Provide Adequate Combustion Air and www.degreedays.net Maintain Good Combustion Settings
  • 22. HTD vs. LTD 97.0% 96.0% 95.0% 94.0% Neither Boiler Condensing 93.0% Combined Efficiency HTD 92.0% 91.0% 90.0% Combined Efficiency LTD 89.0% HTD Not Condensing 88.0% 87.0% Output (Btus/Hr) 0 200,000 400,000 600,000 800,000 1,000,000 1,200,000 1,400,000 1,600,000 1,800,000 2,000,000 2,200,000 2,400,000 2,600,000 2,800,000 3,000,000 3,200,000 3,400,000 3,600,000 3,800,000 4,000,000 86.0%
  • 23. HTD vs. LTD – 55% Load 97.0% 96.0% 95.0% Combined Efficiency HTD 94.0% Combined Efficiency LTD 93.0% 92.0% 91.0% 90.0% 89.0% HTD Not Condensing 88.0% 87.0% 86.0% Output (Btus/Hr) 84% of total operating hours in this range
  • 24. HTD vs. LTD – 20% Load 97.0% Combined Efficiency HTD 96.0% 95.0% Combined Efficiency LTD 94.0% 9% difference 93.0% 92.0% 91.0% 33% of total operating hours in this range 90.0% 89.0% 88.0% 87.0% 86.0% 800,000 600,000 400,000 Output (Btus/Hr) 200,000 0
  • 25. Outdoor Air Reset - Optimized • Rule of thumb: Every 4⁰ F decrease in supply water temp. results in a 1% savings • Increase ∆T from 20° to 40° F • Design for 180° F at design day (-10 ° F) • Dew point of 126° F (9% CO2) • Condensing boilers operate down to approx. 3° F 190 185 180 175 170 165 160 155 150 145 140 135 130 125 120 115 110 105 100 95 90 85 80 75 70 Supply Water Temperature (°F) - Standard Supply Water Temperature (°F) - Optimized Return Water Temperature (°F) - Standard Return Water Temperature (°F) - Optimized 70 65 60 55 50 45 40 35 30 25 20 15 10 5 0 -5 -10
  • 26. Hot Water Boiler Laws • 1) Maintain 140 F Return Temperature to the Boiler (Unless Condensing Boiler) • 2) We Must Have Flow, Turbulent Flow • 3) Maintain Proper Temperature profiles Across the Boiler • 4) Do Not Enable/Disable the Boiler Plant • 5) Prevent Boiler Short Cycling • 6) Provide Adequate Combustion Air and Maintain Good Combustion Settings
  • 27. HTD vs. LTD – Optimized OAR 97.0% 96.0% 95.0% Combined Efficiency HTD Neither Boiler Condensing 94.0% Combined Efficiency LTD 93.0% 92.0% 91.0% 90.0% 89.0% HTD Not Condensing 88.0% 87.0% 0 200,000 400,000 600,000 800,000 1,000,000 1,200,000 1,400,000 1,600,000 1,800,000 2,000,000 2,200,000 2,400,000 2,600,000 2,800,000 3,000,000 3,200,000 3,400,000 3,600,000 3,800,000 4,000,000 86.0%
  • 28. HTD vs. LTD – Optimized OAR 97.0% 96.0% 95.0% Efficiency Gained By Optimized OAR 94.0% 93.0% 92.0% Original OAR Curve 91.0% 90.0% 89.0% 88.0% 87.0% 86.0%
  • 30. Efficiency Standards • No (realistic) standard testing variables established • No testing for multi-boiler batteries (additive turndown) • AHRI is the best source we have • Combustion efficiency vs. thermal efficiency • CO2 and efficiency • How do you read AHRI’s Certificates? • How do these ratings compare to manufacturers’ manuals?
  • 31. ANSI Z21.13 (CSA4.9) & BTS 2000 • Unrealistic conditions • 180 supply temp • 80 return temp • 100% firing rate • 30 minutes heat soak • Take measurements
  • 32.
  • 35. From their manual… HTD Section What is the dew point at 1.1% CO2?
  • 36. ANSI Flue Loss Calculator At 1.1% CO2, the dew point is 77.9⁰ F
  • 37. How is this possible?
  • 38.
  • 39. PK Approach to Boiler Design • Only aluminum and stainless steel are approved by ASHRAE • Entire heat exchanger must be designed to condense • Heat exchanger design must work in primarysecondary and variable primary systems • On-board controls should be capable of sequencing, system optimization, and outdoor air reset
  • 40. Why does PK perform better? • Unique pressure vessel design allows for unparalleled heating surface to water volume • Single cast aluminum alloy heat exchanger • Aluminum is 10x more conductive than stainless steel • Casting allows us to control velocity and turbulence on the fire and water sides • Counter flow for maximum heat transfer
  • 41.
  • 42. View of the gas side section. Flow remains turbulent across the burner’s entire modulation range.
  • 43. Cut-away view of the waterside heat exchanger. Note six passes, each one smaller than the one before. Top mounted burner fires down as the water flows up through the heat exchanger.
  • 44. Hughes Debuts PK Stainless
  • 45. Remember These Key Points • 9% CO2 is practical • RWT must be below 126⁰ F • HTD boilers may not condense below 5:1 regardless of RWT • Select multiple boilers with 5:1 turndowns (additive) • Compare AHRI CO2 (and efficiency) to manufacturer’s manual • Look for 95% or better at 9% CO2 • Per ASHRAE, only AI and SS are approved for condensing boilers • Entire heat exchanger must be designed to condense
  • 46. Additional Presentation Modules • Hybrid Systems: Condensing & Non-Condensing Boilers in New and Existing Projects • System Design: Primary/Secondary vs. Variable Primary & Preventing Short-Cycling • Domestic Hot Water Priority in Condensing Boiler Applications
  • 47. Hughes Machinery Presents: Hot Water Boiler Engineering Seminar TBD, February 2014 8:00 A.M to 5:00 P.M. 6-1/2 PDHs 14400 College Blvd. Lenexa, KS 66215

Hinweis der Redaktion

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  2. Anybody know why we would select a condensing boiler?
  3. How do we make a condensing boiler condense? Anyone know?It’s a combination of these conditions/variables
  4. Does anyone know why combustion analyzers measure O2 instead of CO2?
  5. Can thermal efficiency ever be higher than combustion efficiency?
  6. If you see O2 settings, maybe in a manual, of greater than single digits, then the boiler CANNOT operate efficiently. Or CO2 that’s very low (high O2). We’ll talk more about this later. But O2 impacts efficiency significantly.
  7. Notice that we don’t even chart O2 greater than 6%. Over that and any boiler quickly losses efficiency.Lochinvar second stage gas burner CO2 at 1.5%!
  8. Anyone know why dew point is important?
  9. Now that we understand combustion fundamentals…What is turndown?How are turndown and combustion related?
  10. Anyone know why turndown is important? Is it good? Is it always good?
  11. Regardless of return water temperature!Combustion efficiency
  12. We typically recommend four 5:1 turndown boilersMore than four, and the maintenance points become too great, as does the cost
  13. How does outdoor air reset impact HTD vs. LTD?Assume standard design conditions of 180 degrees F at 0 degrees outdoor.Delta T of 120Dew point of 126 degrees*This is what we see as typical – may vary by engineer
  14. Does anyone recognize this chart? What is it?Bin data.85% of operating hours are spent at 25 degrees or higher. 25 degrees requires approximately 55% of your total load/output.
  15. Returning to our 4 boilers vs. 2 boilers comparison. Here’s the efficiency profile of both systems at 4,000,000 Btus.To the left of the chart, neither boiler is condensing. Anybody know why? (RWT is above 126 degrees F)To the right of the chart, the HTD boiler is not condensing. Anybody know why? (Excess air needed below 5:1 turndown is driving CO2 and hence dew point down, regardless of EWT)
  16. 9% difference. No additional cost. More reliable, safer combustion.REMEMBER THAT MOST VARIABLE SPEED CIRCULATORS CANNOT MEET TURNDOWN OF BURNERS
  17. How does impact the way you size your coils, pumps, piping etc.?You could push the boilers to condense virtually all the time by setting your max SWT on design day to 166 degrees F (126 degrees F RWT with a dew point at 126 degrees F). But how does this impact the rest of your system?
  18. This covers 99% of your degree days. With 86% of your load. Do we need a condensing boiler for 14% of your load? Or, in other words, is it worth designing your entire system (coils, pumps, pipe, motors etc.) around this extreme end of the curve?
  19. Does anyone know why neither boiler is condensing above approx. 3.4 million btus?Do you really need a condensing boiler above 3.4 million btus?
  20. Rule of thumb: Every 4⁰ F decrease in supply water temp. results in a 1% savings
  21. Existing noncondensing boiler? 2% of the operating hours?
  22. Has anyone looked at AHRI certificates before? Anything jump out at you?
  23. What’s wrong with these numbers? Anybody hazard a guess?
  24. Very conservative CO2 number to match manual
  25. In the high turn down ranges, the end-user will be operating at, let’s assume, SWT of 140 degrees F. Delta T of 40 using our aggressive OAR schedule. So RWT of 100 degrees F.
  26. In the high turn down ranges, the end-user will be operating at, let’s assume, SWT of 140 degrees F. Delta T of 40 using our aggressive OAR schedule. So RWT of 100 degrees F.ANYONE KNOW WHY O GRAMS OF CONDENSATE ARE COLLECTED? THE BOILER ISN’T CONDENSING!!!!
  27. This is only possible if a condensing economizer is included (not part of the boiler) or the temperature in the boiler room is 200 degrees F!
  28. If you remember nothing else, remember these…These are good ways to evaluate boiler and system. They are applicable to all condensing boilers. Include in your specifications?
  29. If you remember nothing else, remember these…These are good ways to evaluate boiler and system. They are applicable to all condensing boilers. Include in your specifications?