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PAYING FOR THE NURSING
HOME WITHOUT LOSING YOUR
         SHIRT!

   Robert A. Mason, JD, CELA
        Mason Law, PC
       Asheboro, North Carolina
         Savannah, Georgia
Planning Crisis

• Playing The Odds –


  – By 2025 50% more with Alzheimers
   (Alzheimers Association)


  – By 2025 100% more 65+ with Diabetes
   (American Diabetes Association)
Planning Crisis

• Playing The Odds –

  – 70%
          The Percentage of Those 65+ Who Will Need Some
             Level of Long Term Care Services


  – 30% to 40%
       The Percentage of Those 65+ Who Can Expect
               Nursing Home Level of Care
Planning Crisis

• Playing The Odds –

  – 50% to 60%
   Percentage of Nursing Home Costs Paid by
   Medicaid

  – Government WILL Tighten Benefit Rules
Background – Long Term Care

        Two Types of Planning

• CRISIS!!

•   Long Range
Background – Long Term Care


   Types of Long Term Care
          • In Home
          • Assisted
           • Skilled
Background – Long Term Care

      Financing Long Term Care

•   Private
•   Medicare
•   Long Term Care Insurance
•   Medicaid
NORTH
CAROLINA
MEDICAID
 BASICS
Medicaid Basics
    Asset Qualification Tests


Countable vs Noncountable
Medicaid Basics
         Asset Qualification Tests

•    Major Noncountable/Nonincludible:
    – Residence (less than $536,000 equity if
                single applicant)

                  – 1 Vehicle
Medicaid Basics
    Asset Qualification Tests

Major Noncountable/Nonincludible:
         – Term Insurance
Medicaid Basics
        Asset Qualification Tests

        Annuities – BE CAREFUL!!
•   Must be:
    nontransferable/nonassignable
•   Must be “Actuarially sound”
Medicaid Basics
    Asset Qualification Tests

Major Noncountable/Nonincludible:

   Certain Types of Trusts
         (More On These In A Minute)
Medicaid Basics
Asset Qualification Tests

 •   Countable Assets:
     Everything Else!
Medicaid Basics
   Asset Qualification Tests

Married Couple Countable Limit:
  ONE-HALF Countable UP TO:
            $115,920

       Single Limit: $2,000
MEDICAID
BASICS -
ASSET
TRANSFERS
Medicaid Basics
          Transfer Penalties

•    Transfers Less Than FMV Within 60
           Months of Application
    • Penalty: 1 Month for each $6,300
                 Transferred
Medicaid Basics
       Transfer Penalties

Resulting Penalty BEGINS On Date
Otherwise Financially Eligible AND in
           Skilled Facility
Medicaid Basics
   Transfer Penalties

    EXCEPTIONS

   • Interspousal
• Disabled Adult Child
 • Sole Benefit Trusts
ESTATE RECOVERY
Estate Recovery

    •     Mandated by Congress 1993
•       Directs DMA to Recover Against
        Estates of Deceased Recipients
Estate Recovery


•   Probate vs. Nonprobate
Estate Recovery

Major Exception: Not If A Surviving Spouse
 • Major Exception: Not If A Surviving
               Disabled Child
     • Estates of Less Than $5,000
   • Recoveries of Less Than $3,000
Estate Planning Issues –
Working With The Rules
Rules Break!
 • Transfers More Than 5 Years Old:
             IRRELEVANT

• Go To Nursing Home During 5 Years:
  Pay Remainder of 5 Years OR Undo
           Earlier Transfer
5 Year Strategies

• Give Assets Away
  – Many Negatives

• “Income Only” Trust
  – Much Better Solution
Income Only Trust

• Irrevocable – Sort Of

• Income Continues

• Great Tax Advantages
Income Only Trust
• 5 Years To Be Fully Effective

• What Happens If Need NH Within 5
  Years?
  – Pay Difference Until 5 Years From Trust
    Set-up Has Elapsed
  – Remember: Difference Between Income
    and NH Cost
Income Only Trust

• How Pay For Remainder of 5 Years?
  – Savings
  – LTC Insurance
  – VA Benefits? (Maybe as much as
    $2,054/mo)
Rules Break!


Transfers By WILLS Don’t Count
   Against Medicaid Eligibility
Properly Structured Will
• Leaving Assets To Others Will Not
  Affect Spouse & Medicaid

• CAUTION: Leaving Everything To
  Spouse “Loads Up” Surviving Spouse
Rules Break!
• If You Or Spouse Set Up Trust AND any
  Principal Can Possibly Be Distributed
  To You – WHOLE Trust Will Count

• EXCEPT: Trusts Set Up Under A Will
Properly Structured Will
• Leave Everything In Trust Under Will
  For Spouse

• Trust MUST be Properly Drafted

• Assets In Trust Will Not Count For
  Medicaid Purposes
CAUTION: Living Trusts
• Most Living Trusts Won’t Do
• Revocable Trusts
  – They may avoid probate, but they’re
    countable assets
  – Might Even Make a Home Countable
  – Usually Won’t Do What I Described
IN A NUTSHELL . . .
• NEED FOR LONG TERM
  CARE: HIGH

• COSTS GOING UP

• GOV’T PRESSURE ON BENEFITS
IN A NUTSHELL . . .
• GET INSURANCE IF
  YOU CAN

• EVEN WITH INSURANCE
  HAVE AN OVERALL PLAN
IN A NUTSHELL . . .
• MORE OPTIONS FOR
  COUPLES

• SOME OPTIONS FOR
  SINGLES (IF YOU GET
  PLANNING!)

• MOST EXPENSIVE: DO NOTHING
Now serving Central Carolina and Coastal Georgia
      Elder Law * Wills & Trusts * Guardianships
             All contents of this presentation © 2013 Mason Law, PC

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How To Pay For The Nursing Home Wihtout Losing Your Shirt

  • 1.
  • 2. PAYING FOR THE NURSING HOME WITHOUT LOSING YOUR SHIRT! Robert A. Mason, JD, CELA Mason Law, PC Asheboro, North Carolina Savannah, Georgia
  • 3. Planning Crisis • Playing The Odds – – By 2025 50% more with Alzheimers (Alzheimers Association) – By 2025 100% more 65+ with Diabetes (American Diabetes Association)
  • 4. Planning Crisis • Playing The Odds – – 70% The Percentage of Those 65+ Who Will Need Some Level of Long Term Care Services – 30% to 40% The Percentage of Those 65+ Who Can Expect Nursing Home Level of Care
  • 5. Planning Crisis • Playing The Odds – – 50% to 60% Percentage of Nursing Home Costs Paid by Medicaid – Government WILL Tighten Benefit Rules
  • 6. Background – Long Term Care Two Types of Planning • CRISIS!! • Long Range
  • 7. Background – Long Term Care Types of Long Term Care • In Home • Assisted • Skilled
  • 8. Background – Long Term Care Financing Long Term Care • Private • Medicare • Long Term Care Insurance • Medicaid
  • 10. Medicaid Basics Asset Qualification Tests Countable vs Noncountable
  • 11. Medicaid Basics Asset Qualification Tests • Major Noncountable/Nonincludible: – Residence (less than $536,000 equity if single applicant) – 1 Vehicle
  • 12. Medicaid Basics Asset Qualification Tests Major Noncountable/Nonincludible: – Term Insurance
  • 13. Medicaid Basics Asset Qualification Tests Annuities – BE CAREFUL!! • Must be: nontransferable/nonassignable • Must be “Actuarially sound”
  • 14. Medicaid Basics Asset Qualification Tests Major Noncountable/Nonincludible: Certain Types of Trusts (More On These In A Minute)
  • 15. Medicaid Basics Asset Qualification Tests • Countable Assets: Everything Else!
  • 16. Medicaid Basics Asset Qualification Tests Married Couple Countable Limit: ONE-HALF Countable UP TO: $115,920 Single Limit: $2,000
  • 18. Medicaid Basics Transfer Penalties • Transfers Less Than FMV Within 60 Months of Application • Penalty: 1 Month for each $6,300 Transferred
  • 19. Medicaid Basics Transfer Penalties Resulting Penalty BEGINS On Date Otherwise Financially Eligible AND in Skilled Facility
  • 20. Medicaid Basics Transfer Penalties EXCEPTIONS • Interspousal • Disabled Adult Child • Sole Benefit Trusts
  • 22. Estate Recovery • Mandated by Congress 1993 • Directs DMA to Recover Against Estates of Deceased Recipients
  • 23. Estate Recovery • Probate vs. Nonprobate
  • 24. Estate Recovery Major Exception: Not If A Surviving Spouse • Major Exception: Not If A Surviving Disabled Child • Estates of Less Than $5,000 • Recoveries of Less Than $3,000
  • 25. Estate Planning Issues – Working With The Rules
  • 26. Rules Break! • Transfers More Than 5 Years Old: IRRELEVANT • Go To Nursing Home During 5 Years: Pay Remainder of 5 Years OR Undo Earlier Transfer
  • 27. 5 Year Strategies • Give Assets Away – Many Negatives • “Income Only” Trust – Much Better Solution
  • 28. Income Only Trust • Irrevocable – Sort Of • Income Continues • Great Tax Advantages
  • 29. Income Only Trust • 5 Years To Be Fully Effective • What Happens If Need NH Within 5 Years? – Pay Difference Until 5 Years From Trust Set-up Has Elapsed – Remember: Difference Between Income and NH Cost
  • 30. Income Only Trust • How Pay For Remainder of 5 Years? – Savings – LTC Insurance – VA Benefits? (Maybe as much as $2,054/mo)
  • 31. Rules Break! Transfers By WILLS Don’t Count Against Medicaid Eligibility
  • 32. Properly Structured Will • Leaving Assets To Others Will Not Affect Spouse & Medicaid • CAUTION: Leaving Everything To Spouse “Loads Up” Surviving Spouse
  • 33. Rules Break! • If You Or Spouse Set Up Trust AND any Principal Can Possibly Be Distributed To You – WHOLE Trust Will Count • EXCEPT: Trusts Set Up Under A Will
  • 34. Properly Structured Will • Leave Everything In Trust Under Will For Spouse • Trust MUST be Properly Drafted • Assets In Trust Will Not Count For Medicaid Purposes
  • 35. CAUTION: Living Trusts • Most Living Trusts Won’t Do • Revocable Trusts – They may avoid probate, but they’re countable assets – Might Even Make a Home Countable – Usually Won’t Do What I Described
  • 36. IN A NUTSHELL . . . • NEED FOR LONG TERM CARE: HIGH • COSTS GOING UP • GOV’T PRESSURE ON BENEFITS
  • 37. IN A NUTSHELL . . . • GET INSURANCE IF YOU CAN • EVEN WITH INSURANCE HAVE AN OVERALL PLAN
  • 38. IN A NUTSHELL . . . • MORE OPTIONS FOR COUPLES • SOME OPTIONS FOR SINGLES (IF YOU GET PLANNING!) • MOST EXPENSIVE: DO NOTHING
  • 39. Now serving Central Carolina and Coastal Georgia Elder Law * Wills & Trusts * Guardianships All contents of this presentation © 2013 Mason Law, PC