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Panel Request Response Title:
OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
  SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
  #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens

                   #SXOMGRFP

                    @toddross
                    @joerinaldi
                   @fourkitchens
                    @happycog
                    #DellSXSW
Section 1: Intro




•   RFPs AMIRITE?!?!




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Section 1a: Panelists



•   Todd Ross Nienkerk: Four Kitchens

•   Joe Rinaldi: Happy Cog

•   John Stephens: Dell



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Section 2: Horror Stories




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Section 2: Horror Stories


Q. How many firms were invited to respond to
your RFP?




         SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
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Section 2: Horror Stories


Q. How many firms were invited to respond to
your RFP?

A. 364




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Section 2: Horror Stories


Q. How many firms were invited to respond to
your RFP?

A. 364

Q. How many weren’t?


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Section 3: Why RFPs?
Or, Why do bad RFPs happen to good people?


•   Why do clients issue RFPs?

•   “Competitive Bid” driving the marketplace

•   State, federal, and bureaucratic requirements

•   Often RFP templates are the first/best option
    found in a search

•   “That’s just how we’ve always done it”

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Section 3a: Why RFPs?
     Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line?


Case study: Four Kitchens

•   30-40 hours per RFP response

•   $5,000-7,000 opportunity cost

•   Only 16% of work resulted from RFPs

•   Won only 22% of the RFP-driven proposals we
    submitted

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Section 3a: Why RFPs?
     Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line?



On the flip side:

•   84% of work resulted from personal
    connections and word-of-mouth

•   $2,000-3,000 cost to send a team of three to an
    in-person meeting


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Section 3a: Why RFPs?
     Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line?



Conclusion:

•   RFPs have driven a small, but not insignificant,
    amount of business

•   It costs less for us to send three people to meet
    a potential client than responding to an RFP


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Section 3a: Why RFPs?
     Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line?




Minority report:

•   We’re really bad at writing proposals!
    (But I don’t think so.)




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Section 3a: Why RFPs?
     Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line?



Case Study: Happy Cog

•   Total Leads

•   Quality Wins and Losses

•   % RFP Wins and Losses


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Section 3a: Why RFPs?
     Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line?


•   Travel Expenses

•   (Time spent traveling + developing proposal and
    pitch + pitch meetings) * blended rate=
    Opportunity Cost

•   Revenue from RFP wins vs. Opportunity Cost
    and Expense


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Section 3a: Why RFPs?
        Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line?

Conclusion:

•   We wasted time on at least 3 “Sexy Brand”
    RFPs this past year, but we won two amazing
    projects via RFP: Harvard.edu, Club Nintendo

    •   My kids think it is cool that I “work for”
        Nintendo, want a Yoshi. *Yoshis are not real.

•   We have also passed on RFPs from both
    organizations, authored by other departments.
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Section 4: Dell, A Success Story


  •   RFP process is a vendor evaluating the client
      too.

      •   Provide more than just project
          requirements, cultural snapshot.

  •   Internal stakeholders engaged appropriately,
      open dialog.


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Section 4: Dell, A Success Story


  •   Clear internal evaluation criteria among
      stakeholders.

  •   “Office Hours”

  •   Successful partnership with procurement.



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Section 4: Dell, A Success Story

  •   Room to improve?

  •   Maybe limit presentations to 4 agencies vs. 6

  •   RFP timing, summer RFPs are difficult to
      project manage.

  •   Take steps to ensure the project launch is
      synchronous to the evaluation process.

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Section 5: Clients


•   For a creative project, allow for a creative
    proposal. If it's technical, look for technical. If
    both, look for both. BUT NO SPEC WORK!!!

    •   Don't "level the playing field" forcing people
        to use a common font, type size, format, etc.
        Let vendors be creative in their own way.


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Section 5: Clients

•   Require speaking to the people who are going
    to work on the project.

    •   Avoid a sales “layer”. Sales should be a
        facilitator.

•   Beware of low bids. Often they are too good to
    be true.

•   Pre-select, research and vet vendors. No open
    bids. You'll get a bunch of garbage.
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Section 6: Vendors

•   Ask clients how many other vendors they're
    inviting to bid.

•   Be open: Ask if it's really worth your time to
    respond. Are vendors with existing
    relationships under consideration?

    •   If they're cagey about it, ask how they found
        out about you.

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Section 6: Vendors

•   Require a phone, video, or in-person meeting.
    The proposal should be about pricing and
    approach; then do a face-to-face. If budget is
    a concern, float the estimate first to get buy-in.

    •   Evaluate client consensus around
        requirements, goals.

•   Offer alternatives. As part of any sales or
    negotiation process, the evaluation system
    itself is often negotiable.
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Section 7: Where do we go?


•   Where do we go from here?

•   John/Dell

•   Joe/Happy Cog

•   Todd/Four Kitchens


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Appendix A: Resources


•   Stop Writing Project Proposals
    Jonathan Wold, Smashing Magazine
    http://cog.gd/3l2

•   RFPs: The Least Creative Way to Hire People
    Greg Hoy, A List Apart
    http://cog.gd/28b



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Appendix A: Resources


•   6 Steps to Writing a Better Request for Proposals
    Confluent Forms
    http://cog.gd/3l3

•   Buying Wins
    Joe Rinaldi, Cognition
    http://cog.gd/30p



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Appendix B: Future Scope



•   DrupalCon Denver (March 19):
    No RFPs! Why requests for proposal are bad for
    business (and how we can stop them)
    http://cog.gd/3jq




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  • 1. Panel Request Response Title: OMG Your RFP is Killing Me SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens #SXOMGRFP @toddross @joerinaldi @fourkitchens @happycog #DellSXSW
  • 2. Section 1: Intro • RFPs AMIRITE?!?! SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 3. Section 1a: Panelists • Todd Ross Nienkerk: Four Kitchens • Joe Rinaldi: Happy Cog • John Stephens: Dell SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 4. Section 2: Horror Stories SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 5. Section 2: Horror Stories Q. How many firms were invited to respond to your RFP? SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 6. Section 2: Horror Stories Q. How many firms were invited to respond to your RFP? A. 364 SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 7. Section 2: Horror Stories Q. How many firms were invited to respond to your RFP? A. 364 Q. How many weren’t? SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 8. Section 3: Why RFPs? Or, Why do bad RFPs happen to good people? • Why do clients issue RFPs? • “Competitive Bid” driving the marketplace • State, federal, and bureaucratic requirements • Often RFP templates are the first/best option found in a search • “That’s just how we’ve always done it” SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 9. Section 3a: Why RFPs? Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line? Case study: Four Kitchens • 30-40 hours per RFP response • $5,000-7,000 opportunity cost • Only 16% of work resulted from RFPs • Won only 22% of the RFP-driven proposals we submitted SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 10. Section 3a: Why RFPs? Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line? On the flip side: • 84% of work resulted from personal connections and word-of-mouth • $2,000-3,000 cost to send a team of three to an in-person meeting SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 11. Section 3a: Why RFPs? Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line? Conclusion: • RFPs have driven a small, but not insignificant, amount of business • It costs less for us to send three people to meet a potential client than responding to an RFP SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 12. Section 3a: Why RFPs? Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line? Minority report: • We’re really bad at writing proposals! (But I don’t think so.) SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 13. Section 3a: Why RFPs? Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line? Case Study: Happy Cog • Total Leads • Quality Wins and Losses • % RFP Wins and Losses SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 14. Section 3a: Why RFPs? Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line? • Travel Expenses • (Time spent traveling + developing proposal and pitch + pitch meetings) * blended rate= Opportunity Cost • Revenue from RFP wins vs. Opportunity Cost and Expense SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 15. Section 3a: Why RFPs? Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line? Conclusion: • We wasted time on at least 3 “Sexy Brand” RFPs this past year, but we won two amazing projects via RFP: Harvard.edu, Club Nintendo • My kids think it is cool that I “work for” Nintendo, want a Yoshi. *Yoshis are not real. • We have also passed on RFPs from both organizations, authored by other departments. SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 16. Section 4: Dell, A Success Story • RFP process is a vendor evaluating the client too. • Provide more than just project requirements, cultural snapshot. • Internal stakeholders engaged appropriately, open dialog. SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 17. Section 4: Dell, A Success Story • Clear internal evaluation criteria among stakeholders. • “Office Hours” • Successful partnership with procurement. SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 18. Section 4: Dell, A Success Story • Room to improve? • Maybe limit presentations to 4 agencies vs. 6 • RFP timing, summer RFPs are difficult to project manage. • Take steps to ensure the project launch is synchronous to the evaluation process. SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 19. Section 5: Clients • For a creative project, allow for a creative proposal. If it's technical, look for technical. If both, look for both. BUT NO SPEC WORK!!! • Don't "level the playing field" forcing people to use a common font, type size, format, etc. Let vendors be creative in their own way. SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 20. Section 5: Clients • Require speaking to the people who are going to work on the project. • Avoid a sales “layer”. Sales should be a facilitator. • Beware of low bids. Often they are too good to be true. • Pre-select, research and vet vendors. No open bids. You'll get a bunch of garbage. SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 21. Section 6: Vendors • Ask clients how many other vendors they're inviting to bid. • Be open: Ask if it's really worth your time to respond. Are vendors with existing relationships under consideration? • If they're cagey about it, ask how they found out about you. SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 22. Section 6: Vendors • Require a phone, video, or in-person meeting. The proposal should be about pricing and approach; then do a face-to-face. If budget is a concern, float the estimate first to get buy-in. • Evaluate client consensus around requirements, goals. • Offer alternatives. As part of any sales or negotiation process, the evaluation system itself is often negotiable. SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 23. Section 7: Where do we go? • Where do we go from here? • John/Dell • Joe/Happy Cog • Todd/Four Kitchens SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 24. Appendix A: Resources • Stop Writing Project Proposals Jonathan Wold, Smashing Magazine http://cog.gd/3l2 • RFPs: The Least Creative Way to Hire People Greg Hoy, A List Apart http://cog.gd/28b SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 25. Appendix A: Resources • 6 Steps to Writing a Better Request for Proposals Confluent Forms http://cog.gd/3l3 • Buying Wins Joe Rinaldi, Cognition http://cog.gd/30p SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 26. Appendix B: Future Scope • DrupalCon Denver (March 19): No RFPs! Why requests for proposal are bad for business (and how we can stop them) http://cog.gd/3jq SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens

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