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#IVchat
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                 It's #IVchat time...good evening & welcome to all. Let's start with
IVchat           introductions... #IVchat
                 Wed Feb 16 17:00:15 PST 2011
                 Hey everyone, I'm Joyce! Oncology Nurse, IV Educator, and Wellness
joyceharrel
                 Coach... #IVchat
lrn
                 Wed Feb 16 17:01:11 PST 2011
                 Howdy, good evening, I'm Cora, moderator of IV chat...welcome everyone!
InfusionNu
                 #ivchat
rse
                 Wed Feb 16 17:01:13 PST 2011
VascularA        Hi Michelle here....just lurking a bit...and multitasking too.. #ivchat
ccess            Wed Feb 16 17:02:21 PST 2011

                 @joyceharrellrn Hey Joyce...how r u? #IVchat
IVchat
                 Wed Feb 16 17:02:44 PST 2011

joyceharrel      @VascularAccess We all multitask!!! I'm on a call right now... :) #IVchat
lrn              Wed Feb 16 17:03:02 PST 2011

InfusionNu       @VascularAccess @joyceharrellRN...hi all. good to see you here... #ivchat
rse              Wed Feb 16 17:03:25 PST 2011
                 @IVchat I am great tonight. Getting ready to study after this...again and more.
JoyceHarre
                 #IVchat
llRN
                 Wed Feb 16 17:03:27 PST 2011
                 Gonna start in a few mins here.. see if we get more peeps...heard there's
IVchat           another chat going on same time #IVchat
                 Wed Feb 16 17:04:34 PST 2011
                 working hard r u? RT @joyceharrellrn: @IVchat I am great tonight. Getting
InfusionNu
                 ready to study after this...again and more. #ivchat
rse
                 Wed Feb 16 17:05:08 PST 2011
VascularA        @joyceharrellrn LOL..true.. #ivchat
ccess            Wed Feb 16 17:05:25 PST 2011
I'm going to follow along! Fourth Semester Nursing Student here. #IVchat
Kat_SN
             Wed Feb 16 17:06:19 PST 2011
             T1 - making every1 aware of recall on Synchromed pumps by
IVchat       Medtronic...http://bit.ly/ezlspk #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:06:51 PST 2011
             Whew! Just made it! Deb, RN, here....from Indiana #IVchat
swan5675
             Wed Feb 16 17:07:16 PST 2011
             Welcome to IV chat..good to see u...RT @Kat_SN: Im going to follow along!
IVchat       Fourth Semester Nursing Student here. #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:07:17 PST 2011
JoyceHarre   T1.. I need to get caught up on this info. #IVchat
llRN         Wed Feb 16 17:07:38 PST 2011

InfusionNu   @Kat_SN ..Hi, welcome. please chime in anytime. #ivchat
rse          Wed Feb 16 17:07:50 PST 2011

InfusionNu   @swan5675 ..Hi Deb.. good to see you.. #ivchat
rse          Wed Feb 16 17:08:05 PST 2011

JoyceHarre   @IVchat @Kat_SN Great to have you here tonight @Kat_SN #IVchat
llRN         Wed Feb 16 17:08:06 PST 2011
             Welcome...RT @swan5675: Whew! Just made it! Deb, RN, here....from
IVchat       Indiana #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:08:24 PST 2011
JoyceHarre   @swan5675 What are you doing In Indiana? #IVchat
llRN         Wed Feb 16 17:08:31 PST 2011

             Great to see everyone..... am just being a homebody tonoc... off work! #IVchat
swan5675
             Wed Feb 16 17:09:21 PST 2011
             Reposting T1 - making every1 aware of recall on Synchromed pumps by
IVchat       Medtronic...http://bit.ly/ezlspk #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:09:52 PST 2011
             @InfusionNurse @joyceharrellrn @IVchat LOL. Working hard. Topic is
JoyceHarre
             actually easy. Just a lot of it... #IVchat
llRN
             Wed Feb 16 17:10:56 PST 2011
             T1 - recall on this implantable pump - probs with pocket fills vs.fillimng pump
InfusionNu
             #ivchat
rse
             Wed Feb 16 17:11:00 PST 2011
             T1... no experience with that pump. Our facilities don't use. #IVchat
swan5675
             Wed Feb 16 17:11:15 PST 2011
T1 - we see this on pts on baclofen and 5FU...didnt know about recall..thanks
VascularA
              #ivchat
ccess
              Wed Feb 16 17:11:59 PST 2011
              @InfusionNurse I just read that. How scary. A lot of drugs used in those type
JoyceHarre
              of pumps are chemo..right? And morphine??? #IVchat
llRN
              Wed Feb 16 17:12:00 PST 2011
              RT @VascularAccess: T1 - we see this on pts on baclofen and 5FU...didnt
IVchat        know about recall..thanks #IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:12:54 PST 2011
              T1 Very scary, it sounds. #IVchat
swan5675
              Wed Feb 16 17:12:59 PST 2011
              RT @IVchat: RT @VascularAccess: T1 - we see this on pts on baclofen and
JoyceHarre
              5FU...didnt know about recall..thanks #IVchat
llRN
              Wed Feb 16 17:13:24 PST 2011
JoyceHarre    @swan5675 Hey Deb. Do you have time to connect tomorrow? #IVchat
llRN          Wed Feb 16 17:14:04 PST 2011
              @joyceharrellrn @swan5675..yes and it is implanted so one needs to be
InfusionNu
              certified to refill the pump... #ivchat
rse
              Wed Feb 16 17:14:14 PST 2011
              T1 "Chain is as stong as it's weakest link" cliche certainly seems to apply
swan5675      here.... #IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:14:27 PST 2011
              @joyceharrellrn all day... just message me when u can ;) #IVchat
swan5675
              Wed Feb 16 17:15:04 PST 2011
              @swan5675 ..Medtronic seem to be having lots of issues lately...this is just
InfusionNu
              one of them #ivchat
rse
              Wed Feb 16 17:15:34 PST 2011
              T2 - coming up... #IVchat
IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:15:48 PST 2011
              T1 cutbacks and shortcuts in the arena of healthcare is always a nasty thing,
swan5675      eh? #IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:16:29 PST 2011
              T1 - ur oncology units might be using these pumps - lots of chemo pts have
VascularA
              this for 5FU infusions. #ivchat
ccess
              Wed Feb 16 17:16:31 PST 2011
              yes, implantedRT @VascularAccess: T1 - ur oncology units might be using
InfusionNu
              these pumps - lots of chemo pts have this for 5FU infusions. #ivchat
rse
              Wed Feb 16 17:17:10 PST 2011
joyceharrel   @swan5675 OK. Looking forward. Can't wait to catch up with you! #IVchat
lrn           Wed Feb 16 17:17:16 PST 2011
T2 - IV filters..do u routinely use? or when do you use? #IVchat
IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:17:42 PST 2011
              RT @swan5675: T1 "Chain is as stong as its weakest link" cliche certainly
JoyceHarre
              seems to apply here.... #IVchat
llRN
              Wed Feb 16 17:17:44 PST 2011
              RT @swan5675: T1 cutbacks and shortcuts in the arena of healthcare is
IVchat        always a nasty thing, eh? #IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:18:03 PST 2011
InfusionNu    RT @IVchat: T2 - IV filters..do u routinely use? or when do you use? #ivchat
rse           Wed Feb 16 17:18:13 PST 2011
              RT @IVchat: RT @swan5675: T1 cutbacks and shortcuts in the arena of
JoyceHarre
              healthcare is always a nasty thing, eh? #IVchat
llRN
              Wed Feb 16 17:18:27 PST 2011
              T2 Only for blood infusions, now... and TPN #IVchat
swan5675
              Wed Feb 16 17:18:43 PST 2011
              RT @InfusionNurse: RT @IVchat: T2 - IV filters..do u routinely use? or
JoyceHarre
              when do you use? #IVchat
llRN
              Wed Feb 16 17:18:46 PST 2011
VascularA     T2 - only use for blood, and TPN w/. lipids..not on regular infusions... #ivchat
ccess         Wed Feb 16 17:19:00 PST 2011

JoyceHarre    T2: We use IV filters routinely. #IVchat
llRN          Wed Feb 16 17:19:06 PST 2011

              RT @swan5675: T2 Only for blood infusions, now... and TPN #IVchat
IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:19:13 PST 2011
              for regular IV fluids? RT @joyceharrellrn: T2: We use IV filters routinely.
InfusionNu
              #ivchat
rse
              Wed Feb 16 17:19:38 PST 2011
              T2: IV filters actually go on every setup, unless lipids are going
joyceharrel
              through.Which we know lipids won't go through. #IVchat
lrn
              Wed Feb 16 17:19:44 PST 2011
              RT @joyceharrellrn: T2: IV filters actually go on every setup, unless lipids are
IVchat        going through.Which we know lipids wont go through. #IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:20:23 PST 2011
              @InfusionNurse T2: For some reason we use filters with everything. I have
JoyceHarre
              always wondered why... #IVchat
llRN
              Wed Feb 16 17:20:29 PST 2011
              T2 We have the special filters specifically for blood, TPN #IVchat
swan5675
              Wed Feb 16 17:20:38 PST 2011
yes, 1.2 micron for TPN/Fats..RT @swan5675: T2 We have the special filters
VascularA
             specifically for blood, TPN #ivchat
ccess
             Wed Feb 16 17:21:21 PST 2011
             T2 Stopped using routine filters a few years ago... don't know why #IVchat
swan5675
             Wed Feb 16 17:21:26 PST 2011

JoyceHarre   T2: Our blood sets come prepacked with filter intact. #IVchat
llRN         Wed Feb 16 17:22:27 PST 2011
             T2 - still a recommendation for blood/TPN w/ lipids and intraspinal
InfusionNu
             infusions... #ivchat
rse
             Wed Feb 16 17:22:53 PST 2011
             T2: All chemo. Well, we just use it with everything. (except the lipids)
JoyceHarre
             #IVchat
llRN
             Wed Feb 16 17:22:58 PST 2011
             I always question why,when they are all finding ways to cut back, they seem
swan5675     to find ways to DC what used to be stressed as necessary #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:22:59 PST 2011
             @joyceharrellrn lipds can be filtered if mixed with TPN - use a larger filter...
VascularA
             #ivchat
ccess
             Wed Feb 16 17:23:57 PST 2011
             T2 I don't know, but it seems like the "research findings" are awfully
swan5675     convenient at a time they wish to reduce costs. #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:24:32 PST 2011
             @swan5675 ..its the orgs P/P...but again still recommended for the infusions u
InfusionNu
             mentioned... #ivchat
rse
             Wed Feb 16 17:24:40 PST 2011
             @swan5675 I agree. Stress the importance of things, then d/c with budget
JoyceHarre
             cuts. #IVchat
llRN
             Wed Feb 16 17:24:44 PST 2011
             RT @joyceharrellrn: @swan5675 I agree. Stress the importance of things,
swan5675     then d/c with budget cuts. #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:25:15 PST 2011
             Bingo... so true..RT @InfusionNurse: @swan5675 ..its the orgs P/P...but again
VascularA
             still recommended for the infusions u mentioned... #ivchat
ccess
             Wed Feb 16 17:25:21 PST 2011
             T3 coming up.... #IVchat
IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:26:06 PST 2011
             Yeah... Bard used to insist that doing blood draws via Groshong valve was
swan5675     BAD, for many reasons... now, say it's "OK" #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:26:49 PST 2011
InfusionNu   RT @swan5675: Yeah... Bard used to insist that doing blood draws via
rse          Groshong valve was BAD, for many reasons... now, say its "OK" #ivchat
Wed Feb 16 17:27:26 PST 2011
             T3 - Routine IV tubing changes - when do u change? #IVchat
IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:27:37 PST 2011
             Thank God, our Infection Control docs will not allow blood draws through
swan5675     PICCs #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:28:13 PST 2011
VascularA    @swan5675 what? always drew blood from it... #ivchat
ccess        Wed Feb 16 17:28:19 PST 2011

             T3 Used to be every 48 hours. After cutbacks: every 72 #IVchat
swan5675
             Wed Feb 16 17:28:43 PST 2011
             Why? RT @swan5675: Thank God, our Infection Control docs will not allow
VascularA
             blood draws through PICCs #ivchat
ccess
             Wed Feb 16 17:29:00 PST 2011
             RT @swan5675: T3 Used to be every 48 hours. After cutbacks: every 72
IVchat       #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:29:23 PST 2011
             @VascularAccess Our research at large hospital showed infections resulted,
swan5675     despite proficient flushing techniques #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:29:35 PST 2011
JoyceHarre   T3: Every 4 days, unless having port access, then we do every 3 days. #IVchat
llRN         Wed Feb 16 17:29:39 PST 2011
             @VascularAccess @swan5675 We have to do blood draws through picc and
JoyceHarre
             ports. #IVchat
llRN
             Wed Feb 16 17:30:01 PST 2011
             now its 96...RT @swan5675: T3 Used to be every 48 hours. After cutbacks:
InfusionNu
             every 72 #ivchat
rse
             Wed Feb 16 17:30:20 PST 2011
             @VascularAccess 19 inches of catheter is hard to rid of fibrinogen.... #IVchat
swan5675
             Wed Feb 16 17:30:29 PST 2011
             why the diff? RT @joyceharrellrn: T3: Every 4 days, unless having port
InfusionNu
             access, then we do every 3 days. #ivchat
rse
             Wed Feb 16 17:30:50 PST 2011
VascularA    @swan5675 I hear u..so even with a PICC they stick pt for bld draw? #ivchat
ccess        Wed Feb 16 17:31:37 PST 2011
             RT @swan5675: @VascularAccess 19 inches of catheter is hard to rid of
IVchat       fibrinogen.... #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:31:49 PST 2011
JoyceHarre   T3: Port needles and central line dressing Q 6 days. change the tubing 1/2 way
llRN         in between. #IVchat
Wed Feb 16 17:31:53 PST 2011
             RT @InfusionNurse: now its 96...RT @swan5675: T3 Used to be every 48
IVchat       hours. After cutbacks: every 72 #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:31:56 PST 2011
             It is now the standard at all facilities to draw blood through PICCs, backed by
swan5675     the manufacturers that initially warned against it #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:32:01 PST 2011
             @VascularAccess @swan5675 Our lab comes to us when they see a picc or
JoyceHarre
             port, and we always have to pull from the line. #IVchat
llRN
             Wed Feb 16 17:32:29 PST 2011
             Blood products RT @InfusionNurse: RT @IVchat: T2 - IV filters..do u
CuteNicuN
             routinely use? or when do you use? #ivchat
urse
             Wed Feb 16 17:32:45 PST 2011
InfusionNu   @swan5675 ..so ur PICCs are the groshong kind.... #ivchat
rse          Wed Feb 16 17:32:55 PST 2011
             @VascularAccess yeah... the PICC is to protect venous damage from ATB,
swan5675     viscous fluids. Still do blood sticks. #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:33:10 PST 2011
             RT @CuteNicuNurse: Blood products RT @InfusionNurse: RT @IVchat: T2
IVchat       - IV filters..do u routinely use? or when do you use? #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:33:14 PST 2011
             @InfusionNurse yes... Groshong valves #IVchat
swan5675
             Wed Feb 16 17:33:45 PST 2011

             @CuteNicuNurse Hi Welcome to IVchat.. #IVchat
IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:34:09 PST 2011
             Not sure how i feel about this yet RT @JoyceHarrellRN: T2: All chemo. Well,
CuteNicuN
             we just use it with everything. (except the lipids) #IVchat
urse
             Wed Feb 16 17:34:20 PST 2011
             I always hate drawing blood when TPN is infusing. Always have to waste so
JoyceHarre
             much blood to ensure clearing the TPN product. #IVchat
llRN
             Wed Feb 16 17:34:28 PST 2011
             Years ago, chest inserted CVLs were done after all veins exhausted. PICCs
swan5675     inserted to protect venous system... proactive #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:35:00 PST 2011
             RT @IVchat: RT @swan5675: T3 Used to be every 48 hours. After cutbacks:
CuteNicuN
             every 72 #IVchat
urse
             Wed Feb 16 17:35:03 PST 2011
JoyceHarre   @CuteNicuNurse Good to see you here! #IVchat
llRN         Wed Feb 16 17:35:03 PST 2011
@swan5675 dont pts complain about sticks when they have a PICC??? wow...
VascularA
             #ivchat
ccess
             Wed Feb 16 17:35:13 PST 2011
             RT @joyceharrellrn: I always hate drawing blood when TPN is infusing.
swan5675     Always have to waste so much blood to ensure clearing the TPN #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:35:17 PST 2011
             RT @swan5675: Years ago, chest inserted CVLs were done after all veins
IVchat       exhausted. PICCs inserted to protect venous system proactive #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:35:59 PST 2011
             @swan5675 PICCS are great. They need to let the nurses do them, though.The
JoyceHarre
             radiologists do it, and hard to get on the weekends. #IVchat
llRN
             Wed Feb 16 17:36:01 PST 2011
             @VascularAccess Nobody likes needles.... but infections lasted a lot longer.
swan5675     Besides...our pts weren't promised freedom from sticks #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:37:19 PST 2011
             Lots of PICC teams now , nurses put those in RT @joyceharrellrn:
VascularA
             @swan5675 PICCS are great. They need to let the nurses do #ivchat
ccess
             Wed Feb 16 17:37:31 PST 2011
             When I was on the IV Team, we inserted the PICCs. #IVchat
swan5675
             Wed Feb 16 17:37:51 PST 2011

VascularA    RT @swan5675: When I was on the IV Team, we inserted the PICCs. #ivchat
ccess        Wed Feb 16 17:38:12 PST 2011
             @swan5675 @VascularAccess I know. They do need to let the nurses do. I
JoyceHarre
             was trained one time how to do that. #IVchat
llRN
             Wed Feb 16 17:38:41 PST 2011
VascularA    @swan5675 ..didn t u like being in the IV team? #ivchat
ccess        Wed Feb 16 17:38:50 PST 2011
             RT @swan5675: When I was on the IV Team, we inserted the PICCs. (needs
JoyceHarre
             to happen today in our hospital.) #IVchat
llRN
             Wed Feb 16 17:39:02 PST 2011
             @VascularAccess LOVED it. They disbanded us... too expensive #IVchat
swan5675
             Wed Feb 16 17:39:39 PST 2011
             **dies** really?? oh no..RT @swan5675: @VascularAccess LOVED it. They
VascularA
             disbanded us... too expensive #ivchat
ccess
             Wed Feb 16 17:40:36 PST 2011
             sad, now same concept used to prevent CRBSI...RT @swan5675:
InfusionNu
             @VascularAccess LOVED it. They disbanded us... too expensive #ivchat
rse
             Wed Feb 16 17:41:14 PST 2011
             Infection rates increased after all nurses starting IVs and Rad. techs doing
swan5675     PICCs... more money spent in the big pic.. poor pts #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:41:32 PST 2011
hey y'all glen downunda, checked in earlier but apparently I wasn't
chemosabe     credentialled for tweetchat, who knew! #ivchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:41:50 PST 2011
              @swan5675 @VascularAccess We still have an IV team. However, Oncology
JoyceHarre
              does all their own. #IVchat
llRN
              Wed Feb 16 17:42:06 PST 2011
              RT @chemosabe: hey yall glen downunda, checked in earlier but apparently I
swan5675      wasnt credentialled for tweetchat, who knew! #IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:42:11 PST 2011
              cheaper too than radiology...RT @joyceharrellrn: I know. They do need to let
InfusionNu
              the nurses do. I was trained one time how to do that. #ivchat
rse
              Wed Feb 16 17:42:15 PST 2011
JoyceHarre    @chemosabe Hello Glen!!! #IVchat
llRN          Wed Feb 16 17:42:17 PST 2011
              so also been inundated by pharma reps, 3 in 20 minutes! Wot I miss... cliff
chemosabe     notes pls #ivchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:42:25 PST 2011
              @JoyceHarrellRN Agreed! We have a special nicu picc line insetion team.
CuteNicuN
              Great resource. #IvChat
urse
              Wed Feb 16 17:42:33 PST 2011
              @chemosabe LOL. for real??? Good to see u !! #IVchat
IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:42:45 PST 2011
              RT @CuteNicuNurse: @JoyceHarrellRN Agreed! We have a special nicu picc
swan5675      line insetion team. Great resource. #IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:42:58 PST 2011
              wonder what the CNE points for tweetchat credentialling are? #ivchat
chemosabe
              Wed Feb 16 17:43:21 PST 2011

joyceharrel   @CuteNicuNurse That's awesome for the nicu picc line team! #IVchat
lrn           Wed Feb 16 17:43:28 PST 2011

              T3 Does everybody change out tubing Q 72 hrs? #IVchat
swan5675
              Wed Feb 16 17:43:34 PST 2011

InfusionNu    @chemosabe Use of filters, routine IV tubg chge, synchromed recall.. #ivchat
rse           Wed Feb 16 17:43:46 PST 2011
              RT @chemosabe: wonder what the CNE points for tweetchat credentialling
JoyceHarre
              are? (I am certified in TweetChat already...) #IVchat
llRN
              Wed Feb 16 17:44:03 PST 2011
              LOL..nada for now...RT @chemosabe: wonder what the CNE points for
IVchat        tweetchat credentialling are? #IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:44:06 PST 2011
T2 our PICC's are placed by medical imaging or certain team registrars under
chemosabe    supervision of #nurses #ivchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:44:19 PST 2011
InfusionNu   @swan5675 ..new updated INS is 96hrs.. #ivchat
rse          Wed Feb 16 17:44:27 PST 2011
             @swan5675 Only on central lines and Piccs, and Ports. The peripherals are @
JoyceHarre
             4 days. #IVchat
llRN
             Wed Feb 16 17:44:38 PST 2011
             @chemosabe ..ur just in time for T4... :) #IVchat
IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:45:00 PST 2011
             T3 We change TPN tubing/filters with each new bag, blood filters/tubing after
swan5675     2 units...or 8 hours, whichever comes first #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:45:03 PST 2011
             @chemosabe Ours are all placed by medical imaging. Would love to get the
JoyceHarre
             IV team to do it. #IVchat
llRN
             Wed Feb 16 17:45:12 PST 2011
             T1 filters, low tar u mean? #ivchat
chemosabe
             Wed Feb 16 17:45:19 PST 2011
             RT @chemosabe: T2 our PICCs are placed by medical imaging or certain
IVchat       team registrars under supervision of #nurses #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:45:35 PST 2011
InfusionNu   think so, IV filters here..RT @chemosabe: T1 filters, low tar u mean? #ivchat
rse          Wed Feb 16 17:46:08 PST 2011
             T4 - asked by a twitter colleague - could u use external jugular vein for PIV?
IVchat       #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:46:34 PST 2011
             T3 Isn't it weird that some facilities have different reqs, depending if CVL or
swan5675     PIV? The blood flows through the entire body #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:46:38 PST 2011
             @IVchat Our ER docs will do that, sometimes. #IVchat
swan5675
             Wed Feb 16 17:47:26 PST 2011
             RT @swan5675: T3 Isnt it weird that some facilities have different reqs,
InfusionNu
             depending if CVL or PIV? The blood flows the entire body #ivchat
rse
             Wed Feb 16 17:47:27 PST 2011
             RT @IVchat: T4 - asked by a twitter colleague - could u use external jugular
InfusionNu
             vein for PIV? #ivchat
rse
             Wed Feb 16 17:47:43 PST 2011
             T2 line changes in fluid lines are every 24 hours if intermittent infusion and 72
chemosabe    hours, with cont inf #ivchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:47:44 PST 2011
VascularA     T4 - boy, not EJ - not routinely, mayb for emergency #ivchat
ccess         Wed Feb 16 17:48:17 PST 2011

              T4 don't see y not theoretically, but jeez, would u? #ivchat
chemosabe
              Wed Feb 16 17:48:17 PST 2011
              @CuteNicuNurse Make sure you are putting #IVChat with your posts so you
JoyceHarre
              get included in the conversation!
llRN
              Wed Feb 16 17:48:31 PST 2011
              Do ur nurses do? RT @swan5675: @IVchat Our ER docs will do that,
IVchat        sometimes. #IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:49:09 PST 2011
              RT @joyceharrellrn: @CuteNicuNurse Make sure you are putting #IVChat
IVchat        with your posts so you get included in the conversation! #IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:49:24 PST 2011
              T3 I've firmly believed that PIV site care/maint is just as important as CVL.
swan5675      Could future heart valve probs B from bad PIV care? #IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:49:37 PST 2011
              similar hereRT @chemosabe: T2 line changes in fluid lines are every 24 hours
InfusionNu
              if intermittent infusion and 72 hours, with cont inf #ivchat
rse
              Wed Feb 16 17:49:53 PST 2011
              T4: We consider an external jugular as a PIV, but I don't think we put them in.
joyceharrel
              I think just the docs put them in. #IVchat
lrn
              Wed Feb 16 17:50:22 PST 2011
              RT @swan5675: T3 Ive firmly believed that PIV site care/maint is just as
IVchat        important as CVL. Cld future heart valve fr bad PIV care? #IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:50:47 PST 2011
              T4 I feel that if doc is considering jugular, it's time to put in a darned CVL.....
swan5675      #IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:51:17 PST 2011
              @IVchat I've used EJ's when all else fails and for IV fluids and blood
TriniRN       products. Not ideal for caustic agents ie K+ #IVchat.
              Wed Feb 16 17:51:19 PST 2011
              @joyceharrellrn ..goog point, EJ PIV...so shouldnt really stay in long...
InfusionNu
              #ivchat
rse
              Wed Feb 16 17:51:25 PST 2011
              RT @swan5675 T4 I feel that if doc is considering jugular, it's time to put in a
HowDoWe
              darned CVL..... #IVchat
Feel
              Wed Feb 16 17:51:34 PST 2011
JoyceHarre    @TriniRN Hi @TiniRN #IVchat
llRN          Wed Feb 16 17:51:45 PST 2011

InfusionNu    RT @TriniRN: Ive used EJs when all else fails and for IV fluids and blood
rse           products. Not ideal for caustic agents ie K+ #IVchat. #ivchat
Wed Feb 16 17:51:47 PST 2011
              ?synchromed anyone help an aussie out? #ivchat
chemosabe
              Wed Feb 16 17:51:52 PST 2011
              RT @InfusionNurse: @joyceharrellrn ..goog point, EJ PIV...so shouldnt really
JoyceHarre
              stay in long... #IVchat
llRN
              Wed Feb 16 17:51:57 PST 2011
              Agree RT @swan5675: T4 I feel that if doc is considering jugular, its time to
IVchat        put in a darned CVL..... #IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:52:10 PST 2011
joyceharrel   @InfusionNurse I wouldn't want an EJ PIV to stay in long. #IVchat
lrn           Wed Feb 16 17:52:20 PST 2011
              Implanted pumps for chemo/ paininfusions RT @chemosabe: ?synchromed
IVchat        anyone help an aussie out? #IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:52:42 PST 2011
              RT @IVchat: Agree RT @swan5675: T4 I feel that if doc is considering
JoyceHarre
              jugular, its time to put in a darned CVL..... #IVchat
llRN
              Wed Feb 16 17:52:42 PST 2011
              @chemosabe being recalled
              here..http://www.fda.gov/MedicalDevices/Safety/RecallsCorrectionsRemovals
IVchat
              /ListofRecalls/ucm243634.htm #IVchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:53:15 PST 2011
              @IVchat @swan5675 I am there with you on the EJ. It's time to put in a
joyceharrel
              CL.That cannula isn't long enough on the EJ's. Come out easy #IVchat
lrn
              Wed Feb 16 17:53:28 PST 2011
              I've used EJs as well for fluids. It was a baby who was getting peritoneal
CuteNicuN
              dialysis. #IVChat
urse
              Wed Feb 16 17:53:53 PST 2011
              @joyceharrellrn Yep....just askin' for trouble with those #IVchat
swan5675
              Wed Feb 16 17:54:13 PST 2011
              we have em I think, diff name tho, haven't heard of recall, don't deal withem
chemosabe     much/at all #ivchat
              Wed Feb 16 17:54:15 PST 2011
              RT @CuteNicuNurse: Ive used EJs as well for fluids. It was a baby who was
InfusionNu
              getting peritoneal dialysis. #ivchat
rse
              Wed Feb 16 17:54:24 PST 2011
              @swan5675 When those EJ's come out, they bleed like a stuck pig. How
joyceharrel
              about when they come out and no one is in room to see it??? #IVchat
lrn
              Wed Feb 16 17:55:11 PST 2011
              shld stay long..its a PIVRT @joyceharrellrn: @InfusionNurse I wouldnt want
VascularA
              an EJ PIV to stay in long. #ivchat
ccess
              Wed Feb 16 17:55:18 PST 2011
@chemosabe lots of chemo pts have it for continuous 5FU here #IVchat
IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:55:41 PST 2011
             This has been fun all, I have a phone call I need to make, then some studying...
JoyceHarre
             #IVchat
llRN
             Wed Feb 16 17:55:55 PST 2011
             @joyceharrellrn We had sentinel event with ped pt when that happened
swan5675     #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:56:21 PST 2011
             RT @joyceharrellrn: T4: We consider an external jugular as a PIV, but I don't
MedicalNo
             think we put them in. I think just the docs put them in. #IVchat
tice
             Wed Feb 16 17:56:21 PST 2011
             RT @joyceharrellrn: @swan5675 When those EJs come out, bleed like a
InfusionNu
             stuck pig. Howthey come out and no one is in room to see it??? #ivchat
rse
             Wed Feb 16 17:56:22 PST 2011
             g'nite joyce #ivchat
chemosabe
             Wed Feb 16 17:56:35 PST 2011

             Well, it is almost that time...any parting thoughts?? #IVchat
IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:56:43 PST 2011
             RT @swan5675: @joyceharrellrn We had sentinel event with ped pt when that
VascularA
             happened #ivchat
ccess
             Wed Feb 16 17:57:10 PST 2011
             @IVchat use elastomeric pumps or external electronic pump into PICC or
chemosabe    TIVAD mostly down here #ivchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:57:31 PST 2011
             @joyceharrellrn Thanks Joyce.. #IVchat
IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:57:32 PST 2011
             @IVchat Just want to thank everyone for giving me food for thought. I adore
swan5675     these chats! #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:57:33 PST 2011
             @MedicalNotice Hey there! Great to see you. I am heading out for a phone
JoyceHarre
             call... #IVchat
llRN
             Wed Feb 16 17:57:43 PST 2011
JoyceHarre   @chemosabe Night! #IVchat
llRN         Wed Feb 16 17:57:54 PST 2011

JoyceHarre   @IVchat Good night! #IVchat
llRN         Wed Feb 16 17:58:01 PST 2011

             @joyceharrellrn message me.... #IVchat
swan5675
             Wed Feb 16 17:58:14 PST 2011
Thank u too..appreciate it RT @swan5675: @IVchat Just want to thank
IVchat       everyone for giving me food for thought. I adore these chats! #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:58:22 PST 2011
             @joyceharrellrn nite, Joyce! #IVchat
swan5675
             Wed Feb 16 17:58:43 PST 2011

InfusionNu   Good night to all..thank you again for another great chat... #ivchat
rse          Wed Feb 16 17:59:02 PST 2011
             Thanks for letting me listen in! Always a learning experience. #IVchat
Kat_SN       #nursingschool
             Wed Feb 16 17:59:16 PST 2011
             Next IV chat will be March 2 at 8PM ET...will post summary soon. #IVchat
IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:59:29 PST 2011

             Thank YOU. Nite, all..... #IVchat
swan5675
             Wed Feb 16 17:59:35 PST 2011
             RT @Kat_SN: Thanks for letting me listen in! Always a learning experience.
swan5675     #IVchat #nursingschool #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:59:41 PST 2011
             Thank u, happy u can join tonite RT @Kat_SN: Thanks for letting me listen
IVchat       in! Always a learning experience. #IVchat #nursingschool #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 17:59:52 PST 2011
             G'nite Cora et all, sorry I was late #ivchat
chemosabe
             Wed Feb 16 17:59:58 PST 2011

             @Kat_SN We were privileged to have you here.... come back! #IVchat
swan5675
             Wed Feb 16 18:00:11 PST 2011

             @swan5675 Good night Deb! See u again next time! #IVchat
IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 18:00:25 PST 2011
             Thanks Glen, always a pleasure to see u..RT @chemosabe: Gnite Cora et all,
IVchat       sorry I was late #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 18:00:53 PST 2011
             RT @IVchat: Next IV chat will be March 2 at 8PM ET...will post summary
InfusionNu
             soon. #ivchat
rse
             Wed Feb 16 18:00:59 PST 2011
InfusionNu   @chemosabe hey, how was the other chat? #ivchat
rse          Wed Feb 16 18:01:15 PST 2011
             @IVchat thanks so much:) only caught the last 20 minutes but always helpful!
TriniRN      #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 18:01:57 PST 2011
Good night to all...thanks for joining tonight. Till next IV chat!! #IVchat
IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 18:02:41 PST 2011
             @InfusionNurse didn't look in seeing I had tweetchat issues, stayed here with
chemosabe    u wonderful tweeps #ivchat
             Wed Feb 16 18:02:44 PST 2011
             @TriniRN Glad you can join, you're always welcome here! See u next time...
IVchat       #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 18:03:15 PST 2011
             aww, thanks! hope ur having a good day RT @chemosabe: didnt look in
InfusionNu
             seeing I had tweetchat issues, stayed with u wonderful tweeps #ivchat
rse
             Wed Feb 16 18:04:43 PST 2011
             @CuteNicuNurse ..thanks for joining us tonight...see u again next chat!
IVchat       #IVchat
             Wed Feb 16 18:05:03 PST 2011

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  • 1. #IVchat Healthcare Hashtag Twitter Transcript From: Wed Feb 16 17:00:00 PST 2011 To: Wed Feb 16 18:10:00 PST 2011 Customize transcript dates and layout Learn more about #IVchat at The Healthcare Hashtag Project It's #IVchat time...good evening & welcome to all. Let's start with IVchat introductions... #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:00:15 PST 2011 Hey everyone, I'm Joyce! Oncology Nurse, IV Educator, and Wellness joyceharrel Coach... #IVchat lrn Wed Feb 16 17:01:11 PST 2011 Howdy, good evening, I'm Cora, moderator of IV chat...welcome everyone! InfusionNu #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:01:13 PST 2011 VascularA Hi Michelle here....just lurking a bit...and multitasking too.. #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:02:21 PST 2011 @joyceharrellrn Hey Joyce...how r u? #IVchat IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:02:44 PST 2011 joyceharrel @VascularAccess We all multitask!!! I'm on a call right now... :) #IVchat lrn Wed Feb 16 17:03:02 PST 2011 InfusionNu @VascularAccess @joyceharrellRN...hi all. good to see you here... #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:03:25 PST 2011 @IVchat I am great tonight. Getting ready to study after this...again and more. JoyceHarre #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:03:27 PST 2011 Gonna start in a few mins here.. see if we get more peeps...heard there's IVchat another chat going on same time #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:04:34 PST 2011 working hard r u? RT @joyceharrellrn: @IVchat I am great tonight. Getting InfusionNu ready to study after this...again and more. #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:05:08 PST 2011 VascularA @joyceharrellrn LOL..true.. #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:05:25 PST 2011
  • 2. I'm going to follow along! Fourth Semester Nursing Student here. #IVchat Kat_SN Wed Feb 16 17:06:19 PST 2011 T1 - making every1 aware of recall on Synchromed pumps by IVchat Medtronic...http://bit.ly/ezlspk #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:06:51 PST 2011 Whew! Just made it! Deb, RN, here....from Indiana #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:07:16 PST 2011 Welcome to IV chat..good to see u...RT @Kat_SN: Im going to follow along! IVchat Fourth Semester Nursing Student here. #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:07:17 PST 2011 JoyceHarre T1.. I need to get caught up on this info. #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:07:38 PST 2011 InfusionNu @Kat_SN ..Hi, welcome. please chime in anytime. #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:07:50 PST 2011 InfusionNu @swan5675 ..Hi Deb.. good to see you.. #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:08:05 PST 2011 JoyceHarre @IVchat @Kat_SN Great to have you here tonight @Kat_SN #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:08:06 PST 2011 Welcome...RT @swan5675: Whew! Just made it! Deb, RN, here....from IVchat Indiana #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:08:24 PST 2011 JoyceHarre @swan5675 What are you doing In Indiana? #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:08:31 PST 2011 Great to see everyone..... am just being a homebody tonoc... off work! #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:09:21 PST 2011 Reposting T1 - making every1 aware of recall on Synchromed pumps by IVchat Medtronic...http://bit.ly/ezlspk #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:09:52 PST 2011 @InfusionNurse @joyceharrellrn @IVchat LOL. Working hard. Topic is JoyceHarre actually easy. Just a lot of it... #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:10:56 PST 2011 T1 - recall on this implantable pump - probs with pocket fills vs.fillimng pump InfusionNu #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:11:00 PST 2011 T1... no experience with that pump. Our facilities don't use. #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:11:15 PST 2011
  • 3. T1 - we see this on pts on baclofen and 5FU...didnt know about recall..thanks VascularA #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:11:59 PST 2011 @InfusionNurse I just read that. How scary. A lot of drugs used in those type JoyceHarre of pumps are chemo..right? And morphine??? #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:12:00 PST 2011 RT @VascularAccess: T1 - we see this on pts on baclofen and 5FU...didnt IVchat know about recall..thanks #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:12:54 PST 2011 T1 Very scary, it sounds. #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:12:59 PST 2011 RT @IVchat: RT @VascularAccess: T1 - we see this on pts on baclofen and JoyceHarre 5FU...didnt know about recall..thanks #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:13:24 PST 2011 JoyceHarre @swan5675 Hey Deb. Do you have time to connect tomorrow? #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:14:04 PST 2011 @joyceharrellrn @swan5675..yes and it is implanted so one needs to be InfusionNu certified to refill the pump... #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:14:14 PST 2011 T1 "Chain is as stong as it's weakest link" cliche certainly seems to apply swan5675 here.... #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:14:27 PST 2011 @joyceharrellrn all day... just message me when u can ;) #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:15:04 PST 2011 @swan5675 ..Medtronic seem to be having lots of issues lately...this is just InfusionNu one of them #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:15:34 PST 2011 T2 - coming up... #IVchat IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:15:48 PST 2011 T1 cutbacks and shortcuts in the arena of healthcare is always a nasty thing, swan5675 eh? #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:16:29 PST 2011 T1 - ur oncology units might be using these pumps - lots of chemo pts have VascularA this for 5FU infusions. #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:16:31 PST 2011 yes, implantedRT @VascularAccess: T1 - ur oncology units might be using InfusionNu these pumps - lots of chemo pts have this for 5FU infusions. #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:17:10 PST 2011 joyceharrel @swan5675 OK. Looking forward. Can't wait to catch up with you! #IVchat lrn Wed Feb 16 17:17:16 PST 2011
  • 4. T2 - IV filters..do u routinely use? or when do you use? #IVchat IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:17:42 PST 2011 RT @swan5675: T1 "Chain is as stong as its weakest link" cliche certainly JoyceHarre seems to apply here.... #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:17:44 PST 2011 RT @swan5675: T1 cutbacks and shortcuts in the arena of healthcare is IVchat always a nasty thing, eh? #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:18:03 PST 2011 InfusionNu RT @IVchat: T2 - IV filters..do u routinely use? or when do you use? #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:18:13 PST 2011 RT @IVchat: RT @swan5675: T1 cutbacks and shortcuts in the arena of JoyceHarre healthcare is always a nasty thing, eh? #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:18:27 PST 2011 T2 Only for blood infusions, now... and TPN #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:18:43 PST 2011 RT @InfusionNurse: RT @IVchat: T2 - IV filters..do u routinely use? or JoyceHarre when do you use? #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:18:46 PST 2011 VascularA T2 - only use for blood, and TPN w/. lipids..not on regular infusions... #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:19:00 PST 2011 JoyceHarre T2: We use IV filters routinely. #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:19:06 PST 2011 RT @swan5675: T2 Only for blood infusions, now... and TPN #IVchat IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:19:13 PST 2011 for regular IV fluids? RT @joyceharrellrn: T2: We use IV filters routinely. InfusionNu #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:19:38 PST 2011 T2: IV filters actually go on every setup, unless lipids are going joyceharrel through.Which we know lipids won't go through. #IVchat lrn Wed Feb 16 17:19:44 PST 2011 RT @joyceharrellrn: T2: IV filters actually go on every setup, unless lipids are IVchat going through.Which we know lipids wont go through. #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:20:23 PST 2011 @InfusionNurse T2: For some reason we use filters with everything. I have JoyceHarre always wondered why... #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:20:29 PST 2011 T2 We have the special filters specifically for blood, TPN #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:20:38 PST 2011
  • 5. yes, 1.2 micron for TPN/Fats..RT @swan5675: T2 We have the special filters VascularA specifically for blood, TPN #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:21:21 PST 2011 T2 Stopped using routine filters a few years ago... don't know why #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:21:26 PST 2011 JoyceHarre T2: Our blood sets come prepacked with filter intact. #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:22:27 PST 2011 T2 - still a recommendation for blood/TPN w/ lipids and intraspinal InfusionNu infusions... #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:22:53 PST 2011 T2: All chemo. Well, we just use it with everything. (except the lipids) JoyceHarre #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:22:58 PST 2011 I always question why,when they are all finding ways to cut back, they seem swan5675 to find ways to DC what used to be stressed as necessary #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:22:59 PST 2011 @joyceharrellrn lipds can be filtered if mixed with TPN - use a larger filter... VascularA #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:23:57 PST 2011 T2 I don't know, but it seems like the "research findings" are awfully swan5675 convenient at a time they wish to reduce costs. #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:24:32 PST 2011 @swan5675 ..its the orgs P/P...but again still recommended for the infusions u InfusionNu mentioned... #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:24:40 PST 2011 @swan5675 I agree. Stress the importance of things, then d/c with budget JoyceHarre cuts. #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:24:44 PST 2011 RT @joyceharrellrn: @swan5675 I agree. Stress the importance of things, swan5675 then d/c with budget cuts. #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:25:15 PST 2011 Bingo... so true..RT @InfusionNurse: @swan5675 ..its the orgs P/P...but again VascularA still recommended for the infusions u mentioned... #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:25:21 PST 2011 T3 coming up.... #IVchat IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:26:06 PST 2011 Yeah... Bard used to insist that doing blood draws via Groshong valve was swan5675 BAD, for many reasons... now, say it's "OK" #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:26:49 PST 2011 InfusionNu RT @swan5675: Yeah... Bard used to insist that doing blood draws via rse Groshong valve was BAD, for many reasons... now, say its "OK" #ivchat
  • 6. Wed Feb 16 17:27:26 PST 2011 T3 - Routine IV tubing changes - when do u change? #IVchat IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:27:37 PST 2011 Thank God, our Infection Control docs will not allow blood draws through swan5675 PICCs #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:28:13 PST 2011 VascularA @swan5675 what? always drew blood from it... #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:28:19 PST 2011 T3 Used to be every 48 hours. After cutbacks: every 72 #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:28:43 PST 2011 Why? RT @swan5675: Thank God, our Infection Control docs will not allow VascularA blood draws through PICCs #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:29:00 PST 2011 RT @swan5675: T3 Used to be every 48 hours. After cutbacks: every 72 IVchat #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:29:23 PST 2011 @VascularAccess Our research at large hospital showed infections resulted, swan5675 despite proficient flushing techniques #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:29:35 PST 2011 JoyceHarre T3: Every 4 days, unless having port access, then we do every 3 days. #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:29:39 PST 2011 @VascularAccess @swan5675 We have to do blood draws through picc and JoyceHarre ports. #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:30:01 PST 2011 now its 96...RT @swan5675: T3 Used to be every 48 hours. After cutbacks: InfusionNu every 72 #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:30:20 PST 2011 @VascularAccess 19 inches of catheter is hard to rid of fibrinogen.... #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:30:29 PST 2011 why the diff? RT @joyceharrellrn: T3: Every 4 days, unless having port InfusionNu access, then we do every 3 days. #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:30:50 PST 2011 VascularA @swan5675 I hear u..so even with a PICC they stick pt for bld draw? #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:31:37 PST 2011 RT @swan5675: @VascularAccess 19 inches of catheter is hard to rid of IVchat fibrinogen.... #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:31:49 PST 2011 JoyceHarre T3: Port needles and central line dressing Q 6 days. change the tubing 1/2 way llRN in between. #IVchat
  • 7. Wed Feb 16 17:31:53 PST 2011 RT @InfusionNurse: now its 96...RT @swan5675: T3 Used to be every 48 IVchat hours. After cutbacks: every 72 #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:31:56 PST 2011 It is now the standard at all facilities to draw blood through PICCs, backed by swan5675 the manufacturers that initially warned against it #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:32:01 PST 2011 @VascularAccess @swan5675 Our lab comes to us when they see a picc or JoyceHarre port, and we always have to pull from the line. #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:32:29 PST 2011 Blood products RT @InfusionNurse: RT @IVchat: T2 - IV filters..do u CuteNicuN routinely use? or when do you use? #ivchat urse Wed Feb 16 17:32:45 PST 2011 InfusionNu @swan5675 ..so ur PICCs are the groshong kind.... #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:32:55 PST 2011 @VascularAccess yeah... the PICC is to protect venous damage from ATB, swan5675 viscous fluids. Still do blood sticks. #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:33:10 PST 2011 RT @CuteNicuNurse: Blood products RT @InfusionNurse: RT @IVchat: T2 IVchat - IV filters..do u routinely use? or when do you use? #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:33:14 PST 2011 @InfusionNurse yes... Groshong valves #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:33:45 PST 2011 @CuteNicuNurse Hi Welcome to IVchat.. #IVchat IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:34:09 PST 2011 Not sure how i feel about this yet RT @JoyceHarrellRN: T2: All chemo. Well, CuteNicuN we just use it with everything. (except the lipids) #IVchat urse Wed Feb 16 17:34:20 PST 2011 I always hate drawing blood when TPN is infusing. Always have to waste so JoyceHarre much blood to ensure clearing the TPN product. #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:34:28 PST 2011 Years ago, chest inserted CVLs were done after all veins exhausted. PICCs swan5675 inserted to protect venous system... proactive #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:35:00 PST 2011 RT @IVchat: RT @swan5675: T3 Used to be every 48 hours. After cutbacks: CuteNicuN every 72 #IVchat urse Wed Feb 16 17:35:03 PST 2011 JoyceHarre @CuteNicuNurse Good to see you here! #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:35:03 PST 2011
  • 8. @swan5675 dont pts complain about sticks when they have a PICC??? wow... VascularA #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:35:13 PST 2011 RT @joyceharrellrn: I always hate drawing blood when TPN is infusing. swan5675 Always have to waste so much blood to ensure clearing the TPN #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:35:17 PST 2011 RT @swan5675: Years ago, chest inserted CVLs were done after all veins IVchat exhausted. PICCs inserted to protect venous system proactive #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:35:59 PST 2011 @swan5675 PICCS are great. They need to let the nurses do them, though.The JoyceHarre radiologists do it, and hard to get on the weekends. #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:36:01 PST 2011 @VascularAccess Nobody likes needles.... but infections lasted a lot longer. swan5675 Besides...our pts weren't promised freedom from sticks #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:37:19 PST 2011 Lots of PICC teams now , nurses put those in RT @joyceharrellrn: VascularA @swan5675 PICCS are great. They need to let the nurses do #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:37:31 PST 2011 When I was on the IV Team, we inserted the PICCs. #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:37:51 PST 2011 VascularA RT @swan5675: When I was on the IV Team, we inserted the PICCs. #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:38:12 PST 2011 @swan5675 @VascularAccess I know. They do need to let the nurses do. I JoyceHarre was trained one time how to do that. #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:38:41 PST 2011 VascularA @swan5675 ..didn t u like being in the IV team? #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:38:50 PST 2011 RT @swan5675: When I was on the IV Team, we inserted the PICCs. (needs JoyceHarre to happen today in our hospital.) #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:39:02 PST 2011 @VascularAccess LOVED it. They disbanded us... too expensive #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:39:39 PST 2011 **dies** really?? oh no..RT @swan5675: @VascularAccess LOVED it. They VascularA disbanded us... too expensive #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:40:36 PST 2011 sad, now same concept used to prevent CRBSI...RT @swan5675: InfusionNu @VascularAccess LOVED it. They disbanded us... too expensive #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:41:14 PST 2011 Infection rates increased after all nurses starting IVs and Rad. techs doing swan5675 PICCs... more money spent in the big pic.. poor pts #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:41:32 PST 2011
  • 9. hey y'all glen downunda, checked in earlier but apparently I wasn't chemosabe credentialled for tweetchat, who knew! #ivchat Wed Feb 16 17:41:50 PST 2011 @swan5675 @VascularAccess We still have an IV team. However, Oncology JoyceHarre does all their own. #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:42:06 PST 2011 RT @chemosabe: hey yall glen downunda, checked in earlier but apparently I swan5675 wasnt credentialled for tweetchat, who knew! #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:42:11 PST 2011 cheaper too than radiology...RT @joyceharrellrn: I know. They do need to let InfusionNu the nurses do. I was trained one time how to do that. #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:42:15 PST 2011 JoyceHarre @chemosabe Hello Glen!!! #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:42:17 PST 2011 so also been inundated by pharma reps, 3 in 20 minutes! Wot I miss... cliff chemosabe notes pls #ivchat Wed Feb 16 17:42:25 PST 2011 @JoyceHarrellRN Agreed! We have a special nicu picc line insetion team. CuteNicuN Great resource. #IvChat urse Wed Feb 16 17:42:33 PST 2011 @chemosabe LOL. for real??? Good to see u !! #IVchat IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:42:45 PST 2011 RT @CuteNicuNurse: @JoyceHarrellRN Agreed! We have a special nicu picc swan5675 line insetion team. Great resource. #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:42:58 PST 2011 wonder what the CNE points for tweetchat credentialling are? #ivchat chemosabe Wed Feb 16 17:43:21 PST 2011 joyceharrel @CuteNicuNurse That's awesome for the nicu picc line team! #IVchat lrn Wed Feb 16 17:43:28 PST 2011 T3 Does everybody change out tubing Q 72 hrs? #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:43:34 PST 2011 InfusionNu @chemosabe Use of filters, routine IV tubg chge, synchromed recall.. #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:43:46 PST 2011 RT @chemosabe: wonder what the CNE points for tweetchat credentialling JoyceHarre are? (I am certified in TweetChat already...) #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:44:03 PST 2011 LOL..nada for now...RT @chemosabe: wonder what the CNE points for IVchat tweetchat credentialling are? #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:44:06 PST 2011
  • 10. T2 our PICC's are placed by medical imaging or certain team registrars under chemosabe supervision of #nurses #ivchat Wed Feb 16 17:44:19 PST 2011 InfusionNu @swan5675 ..new updated INS is 96hrs.. #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:44:27 PST 2011 @swan5675 Only on central lines and Piccs, and Ports. The peripherals are @ JoyceHarre 4 days. #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:44:38 PST 2011 @chemosabe ..ur just in time for T4... :) #IVchat IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:45:00 PST 2011 T3 We change TPN tubing/filters with each new bag, blood filters/tubing after swan5675 2 units...or 8 hours, whichever comes first #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:45:03 PST 2011 @chemosabe Ours are all placed by medical imaging. Would love to get the JoyceHarre IV team to do it. #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:45:12 PST 2011 T1 filters, low tar u mean? #ivchat chemosabe Wed Feb 16 17:45:19 PST 2011 RT @chemosabe: T2 our PICCs are placed by medical imaging or certain IVchat team registrars under supervision of #nurses #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:45:35 PST 2011 InfusionNu think so, IV filters here..RT @chemosabe: T1 filters, low tar u mean? #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:46:08 PST 2011 T4 - asked by a twitter colleague - could u use external jugular vein for PIV? IVchat #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:46:34 PST 2011 T3 Isn't it weird that some facilities have different reqs, depending if CVL or swan5675 PIV? The blood flows through the entire body #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:46:38 PST 2011 @IVchat Our ER docs will do that, sometimes. #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:47:26 PST 2011 RT @swan5675: T3 Isnt it weird that some facilities have different reqs, InfusionNu depending if CVL or PIV? The blood flows the entire body #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:47:27 PST 2011 RT @IVchat: T4 - asked by a twitter colleague - could u use external jugular InfusionNu vein for PIV? #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:47:43 PST 2011 T2 line changes in fluid lines are every 24 hours if intermittent infusion and 72 chemosabe hours, with cont inf #ivchat Wed Feb 16 17:47:44 PST 2011
  • 11. VascularA T4 - boy, not EJ - not routinely, mayb for emergency #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:48:17 PST 2011 T4 don't see y not theoretically, but jeez, would u? #ivchat chemosabe Wed Feb 16 17:48:17 PST 2011 @CuteNicuNurse Make sure you are putting #IVChat with your posts so you JoyceHarre get included in the conversation! llRN Wed Feb 16 17:48:31 PST 2011 Do ur nurses do? RT @swan5675: @IVchat Our ER docs will do that, IVchat sometimes. #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:49:09 PST 2011 RT @joyceharrellrn: @CuteNicuNurse Make sure you are putting #IVChat IVchat with your posts so you get included in the conversation! #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:49:24 PST 2011 T3 I've firmly believed that PIV site care/maint is just as important as CVL. swan5675 Could future heart valve probs B from bad PIV care? #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:49:37 PST 2011 similar hereRT @chemosabe: T2 line changes in fluid lines are every 24 hours InfusionNu if intermittent infusion and 72 hours, with cont inf #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:49:53 PST 2011 T4: We consider an external jugular as a PIV, but I don't think we put them in. joyceharrel I think just the docs put them in. #IVchat lrn Wed Feb 16 17:50:22 PST 2011 RT @swan5675: T3 Ive firmly believed that PIV site care/maint is just as IVchat important as CVL. Cld future heart valve fr bad PIV care? #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:50:47 PST 2011 T4 I feel that if doc is considering jugular, it's time to put in a darned CVL..... swan5675 #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:51:17 PST 2011 @IVchat I've used EJ's when all else fails and for IV fluids and blood TriniRN products. Not ideal for caustic agents ie K+ #IVchat. Wed Feb 16 17:51:19 PST 2011 @joyceharrellrn ..goog point, EJ PIV...so shouldnt really stay in long... InfusionNu #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:51:25 PST 2011 RT @swan5675 T4 I feel that if doc is considering jugular, it's time to put in a HowDoWe darned CVL..... #IVchat Feel Wed Feb 16 17:51:34 PST 2011 JoyceHarre @TriniRN Hi @TiniRN #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:51:45 PST 2011 InfusionNu RT @TriniRN: Ive used EJs when all else fails and for IV fluids and blood rse products. Not ideal for caustic agents ie K+ #IVchat. #ivchat
  • 12. Wed Feb 16 17:51:47 PST 2011 ?synchromed anyone help an aussie out? #ivchat chemosabe Wed Feb 16 17:51:52 PST 2011 RT @InfusionNurse: @joyceharrellrn ..goog point, EJ PIV...so shouldnt really JoyceHarre stay in long... #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:51:57 PST 2011 Agree RT @swan5675: T4 I feel that if doc is considering jugular, its time to IVchat put in a darned CVL..... #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:52:10 PST 2011 joyceharrel @InfusionNurse I wouldn't want an EJ PIV to stay in long. #IVchat lrn Wed Feb 16 17:52:20 PST 2011 Implanted pumps for chemo/ paininfusions RT @chemosabe: ?synchromed IVchat anyone help an aussie out? #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:52:42 PST 2011 RT @IVchat: Agree RT @swan5675: T4 I feel that if doc is considering JoyceHarre jugular, its time to put in a darned CVL..... #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:52:42 PST 2011 @chemosabe being recalled here..http://www.fda.gov/MedicalDevices/Safety/RecallsCorrectionsRemovals IVchat /ListofRecalls/ucm243634.htm #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:53:15 PST 2011 @IVchat @swan5675 I am there with you on the EJ. It's time to put in a joyceharrel CL.That cannula isn't long enough on the EJ's. Come out easy #IVchat lrn Wed Feb 16 17:53:28 PST 2011 I've used EJs as well for fluids. It was a baby who was getting peritoneal CuteNicuN dialysis. #IVChat urse Wed Feb 16 17:53:53 PST 2011 @joyceharrellrn Yep....just askin' for trouble with those #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:54:13 PST 2011 we have em I think, diff name tho, haven't heard of recall, don't deal withem chemosabe much/at all #ivchat Wed Feb 16 17:54:15 PST 2011 RT @CuteNicuNurse: Ive used EJs as well for fluids. It was a baby who was InfusionNu getting peritoneal dialysis. #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:54:24 PST 2011 @swan5675 When those EJ's come out, they bleed like a stuck pig. How joyceharrel about when they come out and no one is in room to see it??? #IVchat lrn Wed Feb 16 17:55:11 PST 2011 shld stay long..its a PIVRT @joyceharrellrn: @InfusionNurse I wouldnt want VascularA an EJ PIV to stay in long. #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:55:18 PST 2011
  • 13. @chemosabe lots of chemo pts have it for continuous 5FU here #IVchat IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:55:41 PST 2011 This has been fun all, I have a phone call I need to make, then some studying... JoyceHarre #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:55:55 PST 2011 @joyceharrellrn We had sentinel event with ped pt when that happened swan5675 #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:56:21 PST 2011 RT @joyceharrellrn: T4: We consider an external jugular as a PIV, but I don't MedicalNo think we put them in. I think just the docs put them in. #IVchat tice Wed Feb 16 17:56:21 PST 2011 RT @joyceharrellrn: @swan5675 When those EJs come out, bleed like a InfusionNu stuck pig. Howthey come out and no one is in room to see it??? #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:56:22 PST 2011 g'nite joyce #ivchat chemosabe Wed Feb 16 17:56:35 PST 2011 Well, it is almost that time...any parting thoughts?? #IVchat IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:56:43 PST 2011 RT @swan5675: @joyceharrellrn We had sentinel event with ped pt when that VascularA happened #ivchat ccess Wed Feb 16 17:57:10 PST 2011 @IVchat use elastomeric pumps or external electronic pump into PICC or chemosabe TIVAD mostly down here #ivchat Wed Feb 16 17:57:31 PST 2011 @joyceharrellrn Thanks Joyce.. #IVchat IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:57:32 PST 2011 @IVchat Just want to thank everyone for giving me food for thought. I adore swan5675 these chats! #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:57:33 PST 2011 @MedicalNotice Hey there! Great to see you. I am heading out for a phone JoyceHarre call... #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:57:43 PST 2011 JoyceHarre @chemosabe Night! #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:57:54 PST 2011 JoyceHarre @IVchat Good night! #IVchat llRN Wed Feb 16 17:58:01 PST 2011 @joyceharrellrn message me.... #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:58:14 PST 2011
  • 14. Thank u too..appreciate it RT @swan5675: @IVchat Just want to thank IVchat everyone for giving me food for thought. I adore these chats! #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:58:22 PST 2011 @joyceharrellrn nite, Joyce! #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:58:43 PST 2011 InfusionNu Good night to all..thank you again for another great chat... #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 17:59:02 PST 2011 Thanks for letting me listen in! Always a learning experience. #IVchat Kat_SN #nursingschool Wed Feb 16 17:59:16 PST 2011 Next IV chat will be March 2 at 8PM ET...will post summary soon. #IVchat IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:59:29 PST 2011 Thank YOU. Nite, all..... #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 17:59:35 PST 2011 RT @Kat_SN: Thanks for letting me listen in! Always a learning experience. swan5675 #IVchat #nursingschool #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:59:41 PST 2011 Thank u, happy u can join tonite RT @Kat_SN: Thanks for letting me listen IVchat in! Always a learning experience. #IVchat #nursingschool #IVchat Wed Feb 16 17:59:52 PST 2011 G'nite Cora et all, sorry I was late #ivchat chemosabe Wed Feb 16 17:59:58 PST 2011 @Kat_SN We were privileged to have you here.... come back! #IVchat swan5675 Wed Feb 16 18:00:11 PST 2011 @swan5675 Good night Deb! See u again next time! #IVchat IVchat Wed Feb 16 18:00:25 PST 2011 Thanks Glen, always a pleasure to see u..RT @chemosabe: Gnite Cora et all, IVchat sorry I was late #IVchat Wed Feb 16 18:00:53 PST 2011 RT @IVchat: Next IV chat will be March 2 at 8PM ET...will post summary InfusionNu soon. #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 18:00:59 PST 2011 InfusionNu @chemosabe hey, how was the other chat? #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 18:01:15 PST 2011 @IVchat thanks so much:) only caught the last 20 minutes but always helpful! TriniRN #IVchat Wed Feb 16 18:01:57 PST 2011
  • 15. Good night to all...thanks for joining tonight. Till next IV chat!! #IVchat IVchat Wed Feb 16 18:02:41 PST 2011 @InfusionNurse didn't look in seeing I had tweetchat issues, stayed here with chemosabe u wonderful tweeps #ivchat Wed Feb 16 18:02:44 PST 2011 @TriniRN Glad you can join, you're always welcome here! See u next time... IVchat #IVchat Wed Feb 16 18:03:15 PST 2011 aww, thanks! hope ur having a good day RT @chemosabe: didnt look in InfusionNu seeing I had tweetchat issues, stayed with u wonderful tweeps #ivchat rse Wed Feb 16 18:04:43 PST 2011 @CuteNicuNurse ..thanks for joining us tonight...see u again next chat! IVchat #IVchat Wed Feb 16 18:05:03 PST 2011