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B2B Social Media:
Moving Beyond the Hype

    Mike Rowland, Impact Interactions
     Jeanette Gibson, Cisco Systems
         Navneet Grewal, NetApp
            Sara Larsen, SAP
              April 5, 2011
B2B Social Media Hype

     ā€œThe tactics that work in consumer focused social media will work in
     business to business social media.ā€
     ā€œThe tactics that work in consumer focused social media wonā€™t work
     in business to business social media.ā€
     ā€œIn social media, your audience controls your brand.ā€
     ā€œYou have to use <Insert latest tool being hyped by the social media
     echo chamber> to engage with your audience.ā€
     ā€œB2B social media is in its infancy.ā€
     ā€œB2B marketers have to catch up to B2C in social media.ā€
     ā€œThe most important thing to do is build followers and fans.ā€
     ā€œSocial Media ROI is about the conversations. You canā€™t measure it.ā€



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The Hype Leads Many to
 Believe B2B Social Media is
          Complex




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Maybe Our Own Teams
Contribute to the Complexity




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The Hypester

                   Social Media is the
                      new way of
                       marketing




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The Skeptic

                     Social Media will
                       never replace
                   traditional marketing




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The Hard Worker

                   Social Media requires
                    more content than
                   traditional marketing




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The Lazy Worker

                     Social Media lets
                    other people do the
                        hard work




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The Dreamer

                     Itā€™s all about the
                  conversations. Theyā€™re
                           magicā€¦




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The Executive Sponsor

                    There must be a way
                      to justify all the
                       money weā€™re
                         spending!




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The Realist




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Joan Harris is Correct

     Moving beyond the hype of B2B social media means focusing on your audience
     and their information needs
        ā€“ B2B audiences want a relationship with your company, not a transaction
        ā€“ Casual browsers use 3rd party sites, invested audiences use your site
     Two main reasons that people follow B2B companies on social media
     (besides looking for a job)
        ā€“ To learn more about a product or solution prior to purchase
        ā€“ To resolve support issues
     Tools support information flow ā€“ Donā€™t fall into the trap of ā€œIf you build it, they will
     come.ā€
        ā€“ Where is your audience online?
        ā€“ Shiny objects are nice, but do you get results from them?
     Measurement is a must in B2B Social Media
        ā€“ Move beyond followers and counts by using a solid measurement strategy
        ā€“ Educate your stakeholders (Dashboards work great)
        ā€“ Bring in traditional CRM data to demonstrate ROI
 Letā€™s look at some examples of how companies have cut through the hype to use
                        social media in a B2B environmentā€¦

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SARA LARSEN

                                               NAVNEET GREWAL



                                               JEANETTE GIBSON




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Social Media: Making it Real

          March 2011
About SAP


Leading Provider of Business Software

Over 109,000 Companies Run on
SAP Software

38 Years of Business Process
Experience

New Innovation in Business Analytics
and Mobility Solutions

Our Mission: Make Every Customer a
Best-Run Business
Leading Companies Trust
 Our Industry Expertise



                            Trading
                           Industries

              Consumer                  Financial
              Industries                Services

                Process                 Discrete
          Manufacturing                 Manufacturing

                     Services     Public
                                  Services
SAP Helps the World Run
          Better.

SAP Customersā€¦.

   ā€¦process 2.5 billion     ā€¦manage 50 million   ā€¦produce 2.2 million
   utility bills per year     bank accounts       tons of chocolate
Social Media Momentum
          @ SAP

ļ‚§Broad Channel Reach

ļ‚§Highly Engaged Community

ļ‚§Enterprise Wide Listening &
Reporting

ļ‚§Broad Campaign Integration


  SAP Community Networkā€¦ may be the most extensive use to date of social media by a corporation.ā€
  Richard Adler, Leveraging the Talent-Driven Organization, The Aspen Institute, March 2010
Social Media ā€“ Making It
          Real

ļ‚§ Prioritize with a Purpose
ļ‚§ Define a Point of View
ļ‚§ Put a Stake in the Ground
ļ‚§ Quick Wins are Important
ļ‚§ Executing the Long Game
Social Media ā€“ Executing the Long Game




                         Comprehend                   Content                 Channel




                     ļ‚§Audience Profile              ļ‚§Editorial Voice          ļ‚§Channel Strategy
                     ļ‚§Marketplace                   ļ‚§Publishing Approach      ļ‚§Emerging
                     Dynamics                                                 Communities
                                                    ļ‚§Dynamic
                     ļ‚§Program                       Conversation              ļ‚§Interconnectedness
                     Effectiveness

                            ~ Dedicated Team ~ Virtual Team~ Agency Engagement ~ Executive Sponsorship

Ā© 2011 SAP AG. All rights reserved.                                                            Confidential   20
Thank You!

Contact information:

Sara Larsen
Senior Director, Digital Marketing
sara.larsen@sap.com
@sararlarsen
SARA LARSEN



                                               NAVNEET GREWAL

                                               CISCO SYSTEMS ā€“ JEANETTE GIBSON




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Our B2B Social
Media Strategy ā€“
Building Growth
Navneet Grewal
Director, Digital Marketing
April 5, 2011
About NetApp

        ļ‚” Provider of industry leading data and
          storage management solutions

        ļ‚” Fortune 100 company with $3.9B
          annual revenue (FY11)

        ļ‚” Over 10,000 employees in more than
          150 offices worldwide

        ļ‚” One of the Best Companies to Work for


                                                  24
Our Audience is Global & Interacts
     Across Multiple Platforms with NetApp
ļ‚” Microblogging (Twitter, Sina): 22
  accounts in 19 countries, 11
  languages
ļ‚” Social Networks (Facebook,
  LinkedIn, Sina): 30 accounts in 16
  countries, 12 languages
ļ‚” Video Channels
  (Tudou,Youku,Youtube): 8
  accounts in 10 countries, 5
  languages
ļ‚” Blogs: 50+ blogs in 15 countries,
  9 languages
ļ‚” Communities: US based over
  71,000 members                             25
Persona Driven Strategy




Source: NetApp persona development by Level Studios


                                                      26
Our Challenges Are Manyā€¦ But Weā€™re
 Focused on Our Audienceā€™s Needs



Integration of Web,
Communities, User
Groups, Online events,
& Social Media




                                      27
Integrate to Connect More




                            28
Integrate to Connect More




             NetApp Confidential - Limited Use   29
Driving Engagement
Customer Listening




                     31
Business Value of Online Conversations
Community knowledge sharing continues to provide
 value to NetApp customers and partners




                   Partners Benefit From Engagement
     ā€œI use the Communities for two things: To download the latest
      NetApp DOCs for basically anything (They are always newer
      here than anywhere else) and to help NetApp Customers with
     their NetApp issues when I have the time ā€“ I have been getting
                           some great leadsā€¦
                                                                      32
Business Value of Online
Conversations
Why This Is So Important for NetApp
ļ‚” From our recent Value Framework project we learned:
Active members using our community to interact and engage
  with us contributed hundreds of millions of dollars in sales
                revenue over a 6 month period
    Active partners of NetApp engaging in the community
   delivered over half a billion dollars in partner owned sales
               revenue over the same time period
ļ‚” Using B2B Social Media properly allows us to expand our reach
  using the network effect in a cost effective manner to engage
  with our valuable audience members
  ā€“ The audience is valuableā€¦
  ā€“ Companies must integrate information to be a valued
     resource to the audience versus providing information
     overload in a disorganized manner

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SARA LARSEN



                                               NAVNEET GREWAL


                                               JEANETTE GIBSON


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How Cisco Engages with
the Social Customer
Jeanette Gibson, Director, Social Media Marketing

@JeanetteG

April 5, 2011




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socialmedia.cisco.com
                                                           Whyā€¦
                                                           ļ‚§ Create conversations with
                                                             customers, partners, employees
                                                             and the public
                                                           ļ‚§ Platform to discuss the role
                                                             of the network
                                                           ļ‚§ Thought leadership

                                                           Howā€¦
                                                           ļ‚§ Extensive use of video increases
                                                             engagement
                                                           ļ‚§ Integrated with campaigns
                                                           ļ‚§ Employee engagement
                                                             programs increase usage
                                                             externally


Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.                               Cisco Confidential   38
Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.   Cisco Confidential   39
Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.
                                                           www.ciscolive.com   Cisco Confidential   40
Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.   Cisco Confidential   41
ā€¢ 400 customers from 20 countries registered for app + game
                  ā€¢ 3200 check ins during the week
                  ā€¢ 54k points earned & 760 virtual stickers awarded
                  ā€¢ 70 ratings & 235 comments

Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.                        Cisco Confidential   42
Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.
                                                           Twitter.com/ciscolive   Cisco Confidential   43
Uses her Twitter Community of over 1.3M followers to
            ļ‚§Amplify Ciscoā€™s voice on Cloud and Unified Computing
            ļ‚§Share technology insights
            ļ‚§Get feedback on her ideas and presentations




Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.
                                                           Twitter.com/padmasree   Cisco Confidential   44
A regularly scheduled video broadcast on Ustream with Cisco executives
                 and experts covering partner-focused topics.



           ļ‚§ Engage Cisco partners
             around the globe

           ļ‚§ Interact using video, social
             media, and free tools

           ļ‚§ 8 sessions with close to
             50,000 live views and
             many replays



 Digital Marketing Awards
 Finalist


Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.
                                                           Ustream.tv/ciscotv      Cisco Confidential   45
Whatā€™s Nextā€¦
                                                           ā€¢ Conversation Rate

                                                           ā€¢ Cross Channel
                                                             Metrics
                                                           ā€¢ Interactive
                                                             Dashboard




Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.                   Cisco Confidential   46
Lead with customer listening
Create a social listening working group

Set goals
What are you trying to accomplish?

Optimize & integrate your social presence
How will customers find you and connect with you?

Embrace video
Learn and leverage the power of video

Build your engagement team
Uncover your experts and get them involved

Be open & transparent
Be willing to share lessons learned




 Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.   Cisco Confidential   47
Thank you.
Questions for Our Panel




         Mike Rowland                        Navneet Grewal   Sara Larsen   Jeanette Gibson




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B2B Social Media - Moving Beyond the Hype (iStrategy San Francisco)

  • 1. B2B Social Media: Moving Beyond the Hype Mike Rowland, Impact Interactions Jeanette Gibson, Cisco Systems Navneet Grewal, NetApp Sara Larsen, SAP April 5, 2011
  • 2. B2B Social Media Hype ā€œThe tactics that work in consumer focused social media will work in business to business social media.ā€ ā€œThe tactics that work in consumer focused social media wonā€™t work in business to business social media.ā€ ā€œIn social media, your audience controls your brand.ā€ ā€œYou have to use <Insert latest tool being hyped by the social media echo chamber> to engage with your audience.ā€ ā€œB2B social media is in its infancy.ā€ ā€œB2B marketers have to catch up to B2C in social media.ā€ ā€œThe most important thing to do is build followers and fans.ā€ ā€œSocial Media ROI is about the conversations. You canā€™t measure it.ā€ Ā©2011 JTS Online Holdings Inc. dba Impact Interactions. All Rights Reserved. 2
  • 3. The Hype Leads Many to Believe B2B Social Media is Complex Image by Wordle.net Ā©2011 JTS Online Holdings Inc. dba Impact Interactions. All Rights Reserved. 3
  • 4. Maybe Our Own Teams Contribute to the Complexity Ā©2011 JTS Online Holdings Inc. dba Impact Interactions. All Rights Reserved. 4
  • 5. The Hypester Social Media is the new way of marketing Pictures courtesy of AMCTV.com (http://www.amctv.com/originals/madmen/) Ā©2011 JTS Online Holdings Inc. dba Impact Interactions. All Rights Reserved. 5
  • 6. The Skeptic Social Media will never replace traditional marketing Pictures courtesy of AMCTV.com (http://www.amctv.com/originals/madmen/) Ā©2011 JTS Online Holdings Inc. dba Impact Interactions. All Rights Reserved. 6
  • 7. The Hard Worker Social Media requires more content than traditional marketing Pictures courtesy of AMCTV.com (http://www.amctv.com/originals/madmen/) Ā©2011 JTS Online Holdings Inc. dba Impact Interactions. All Rights Reserved. 7
  • 8. The Lazy Worker Social Media lets other people do the hard work Pictures courtesy of AMCTV.com (http://www.amctv.com/originals/madmen/) Ā©2011 JTS Online Holdings Inc. dba Impact Interactions. All Rights Reserved. 8
  • 9. The Dreamer Itā€™s all about the conversations. Theyā€™re magicā€¦ Pictures courtesy of AMCTV.com (http://www.amctv.com/originals/madmen/) Ā©2011 JTS Online Holdings Inc. dba Impact Interactions. All Rights Reserved. 9
  • 10. The Executive Sponsor There must be a way to justify all the money weā€™re spending! Pictures courtesy of AMCTV.com (http://www.amctv.com/originals/madmen/) Ā©2011 JTS Online Holdings Inc. dba Impact Interactions. All Rights Reserved. 10
  • 11. The Realist Pictures courtesy of AMCTV.com (http://www.amctv.com/originals/madmen/) Ā©2011 JTS Online Holdings Inc. dba Impact Interactions. All Rights Reserved. 11
  • 12. Joan Harris is Correct Moving beyond the hype of B2B social media means focusing on your audience and their information needs ā€“ B2B audiences want a relationship with your company, not a transaction ā€“ Casual browsers use 3rd party sites, invested audiences use your site Two main reasons that people follow B2B companies on social media (besides looking for a job) ā€“ To learn more about a product or solution prior to purchase ā€“ To resolve support issues Tools support information flow ā€“ Donā€™t fall into the trap of ā€œIf you build it, they will come.ā€ ā€“ Where is your audience online? ā€“ Shiny objects are nice, but do you get results from them? Measurement is a must in B2B Social Media ā€“ Move beyond followers and counts by using a solid measurement strategy ā€“ Educate your stakeholders (Dashboards work great) ā€“ Bring in traditional CRM data to demonstrate ROI Letā€™s look at some examples of how companies have cut through the hype to use social media in a B2B environmentā€¦ Ā©2011 JTS Online Holdings Inc. dba Impact Interactions. All Rights Reserved. 12
  • 13. SARA LARSEN NAVNEET GREWAL JEANETTE GIBSON 13 Ā©2011 JTS Online Holdings Inc. dba Impact Interactions. All Rights Reserved.
  • 14. Social Media: Making it Real March 2011
  • 15. About SAP Leading Provider of Business Software Over 109,000 Companies Run on SAP Software 38 Years of Business Process Experience New Innovation in Business Analytics and Mobility Solutions Our Mission: Make Every Customer a Best-Run Business
  • 16. Leading Companies Trust Our Industry Expertise Trading Industries Consumer Financial Industries Services Process Discrete Manufacturing Manufacturing Services Public Services
  • 17. SAP Helps the World Run Better. SAP Customersā€¦. ā€¦process 2.5 billion ā€¦manage 50 million ā€¦produce 2.2 million utility bills per year bank accounts tons of chocolate
  • 18. Social Media Momentum @ SAP ļ‚§Broad Channel Reach ļ‚§Highly Engaged Community ļ‚§Enterprise Wide Listening & Reporting ļ‚§Broad Campaign Integration SAP Community Networkā€¦ may be the most extensive use to date of social media by a corporation.ā€ Richard Adler, Leveraging the Talent-Driven Organization, The Aspen Institute, March 2010
  • 19. Social Media ā€“ Making It Real ļ‚§ Prioritize with a Purpose ļ‚§ Define a Point of View ļ‚§ Put a Stake in the Ground ļ‚§ Quick Wins are Important ļ‚§ Executing the Long Game
  • 20. Social Media ā€“ Executing the Long Game Comprehend Content Channel ļ‚§Audience Profile ļ‚§Editorial Voice ļ‚§Channel Strategy ļ‚§Marketplace ļ‚§Publishing Approach ļ‚§Emerging Dynamics Communities ļ‚§Dynamic ļ‚§Program Conversation ļ‚§Interconnectedness Effectiveness ~ Dedicated Team ~ Virtual Team~ Agency Engagement ~ Executive Sponsorship Ā© 2011 SAP AG. All rights reserved. Confidential 20
  • 21. Thank You! Contact information: Sara Larsen Senior Director, Digital Marketing sara.larsen@sap.com @sararlarsen
  • 22. SARA LARSEN NAVNEET GREWAL CISCO SYSTEMS ā€“ JEANETTE GIBSON 22 Ā©2011 JTS Online Holdings Inc. dba Impact Interactions. All Rights Reserved.
  • 23. Our B2B Social Media Strategy ā€“ Building Growth Navneet Grewal Director, Digital Marketing April 5, 2011
  • 24. About NetApp ļ‚” Provider of industry leading data and storage management solutions ļ‚” Fortune 100 company with $3.9B annual revenue (FY11) ļ‚” Over 10,000 employees in more than 150 offices worldwide ļ‚” One of the Best Companies to Work for 24
  • 25. Our Audience is Global & Interacts Across Multiple Platforms with NetApp ļ‚” Microblogging (Twitter, Sina): 22 accounts in 19 countries, 11 languages ļ‚” Social Networks (Facebook, LinkedIn, Sina): 30 accounts in 16 countries, 12 languages ļ‚” Video Channels (Tudou,Youku,Youtube): 8 accounts in 10 countries, 5 languages ļ‚” Blogs: 50+ blogs in 15 countries, 9 languages ļ‚” Communities: US based over 71,000 members 25
  • 26. Persona Driven Strategy Source: NetApp persona development by Level Studios 26
  • 27. Our Challenges Are Manyā€¦ But Weā€™re Focused on Our Audienceā€™s Needs Integration of Web, Communities, User Groups, Online events, & Social Media 27
  • 29. Integrate to Connect More NetApp Confidential - Limited Use 29
  • 32. Business Value of Online Conversations Community knowledge sharing continues to provide value to NetApp customers and partners Partners Benefit From Engagement ā€œI use the Communities for two things: To download the latest NetApp DOCs for basically anything (They are always newer here than anywhere else) and to help NetApp Customers with their NetApp issues when I have the time ā€“ I have been getting some great leadsā€¦ 32
  • 33. Business Value of Online Conversations
  • 34. Why This Is So Important for NetApp ļ‚” From our recent Value Framework project we learned: Active members using our community to interact and engage with us contributed hundreds of millions of dollars in sales revenue over a 6 month period Active partners of NetApp engaging in the community delivered over half a billion dollars in partner owned sales revenue over the same time period ļ‚” Using B2B Social Media properly allows us to expand our reach using the network effect in a cost effective manner to engage with our valuable audience members ā€“ The audience is valuableā€¦ ā€“ Companies must integrate information to be a valued resource to the audience versus providing information overload in a disorganized manner 34
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  • 36. SARA LARSEN NAVNEET GREWAL JEANETTE GIBSON 36 Ā©2011 JTS Online Holdings Inc. dba Impact Interactions. All Rights Reserved.
  • 37. How Cisco Engages with the Social Customer Jeanette Gibson, Director, Social Media Marketing @JeanetteG April 5, 2011 Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. 37
  • 38. socialmedia.cisco.com Whyā€¦ ļ‚§ Create conversations with customers, partners, employees and the public ļ‚§ Platform to discuss the role of the network ļ‚§ Thought leadership Howā€¦ ļ‚§ Extensive use of video increases engagement ļ‚§ Integrated with campaigns ļ‚§ Employee engagement programs increase usage externally Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Cisco Confidential 38
  • 39. Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Cisco Confidential 39
  • 40. Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. www.ciscolive.com Cisco Confidential 40
  • 41. Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Cisco Confidential 41
  • 42. ā€¢ 400 customers from 20 countries registered for app + game ā€¢ 3200 check ins during the week ā€¢ 54k points earned & 760 virtual stickers awarded ā€¢ 70 ratings & 235 comments Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Cisco Confidential 42
  • 43. Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Twitter.com/ciscolive Cisco Confidential 43
  • 44. Uses her Twitter Community of over 1.3M followers to ļ‚§Amplify Ciscoā€™s voice on Cloud and Unified Computing ļ‚§Share technology insights ļ‚§Get feedback on her ideas and presentations Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Twitter.com/padmasree Cisco Confidential 44
  • 45. A regularly scheduled video broadcast on Ustream with Cisco executives and experts covering partner-focused topics. ļ‚§ Engage Cisco partners around the globe ļ‚§ Interact using video, social media, and free tools ļ‚§ 8 sessions with close to 50,000 live views and many replays Digital Marketing Awards Finalist Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Ustream.tv/ciscotv Cisco Confidential 45
  • 46. Whatā€™s Nextā€¦ ā€¢ Conversation Rate ā€¢ Cross Channel Metrics ā€¢ Interactive Dashboard Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Cisco Confidential 46
  • 47. Lead with customer listening Create a social listening working group Set goals What are you trying to accomplish? Optimize & integrate your social presence How will customers find you and connect with you? Embrace video Learn and leverage the power of video Build your engagement team Uncover your experts and get them involved Be open & transparent Be willing to share lessons learned Ā© 2010 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Cisco Confidential 47
  • 49. Questions for Our Panel Mike Rowland Navneet Grewal Sara Larsen Jeanette Gibson Ā©2011 JTS Online Holdings Inc. dba Impact Interactions. All Rights Reserved. 49