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Estate Recovery Presentation
1. ESTATE RECOVERY IS HERE: HOW
DOES IT APPLY TO YOUR CLIENTS
AND THEIR FAMILIES
Coldwell Banker Woodland-Schmidt
P. Haans Mulder, JD, MST, CFP®
Cunningham Dalman, P.C.
321 Settlers Road
Holland, MI 49423
(616) 392-1821
phmulder@holland-law.com
2. Background
• Attorney and Partner at Cunningham
Dalman, P.C.
• Have a Masters in Tax (MST), CFP®
and specialize in estates/elder law and
business planning.
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3. Background
• Cunningham Dalman, P.C. has been
serving the lakeshore since 1900.
• We have 15 attorneys specializing in all
areas of the law.
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4. Overview
• Discuss the Medicaid rules and process.
• Cover the what, who, when, where, and
how’s of Medicaid.
• What is estate recovery and why is it
important to your clients and their families.
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5. Overview
• What types of assets does estate
recovery apply to.
• How it might impact your business.
• How do your clients and their families
protect against it.
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6. What is Medicaid?
• It is a state and federal program that
pays for medical treatment (including
long term care).
• Oftentimes confused with Medicare.
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7. When does Medicaid apply?
• Historically, it only paid for nursing
home care.
• In certain counties (that have the MI
Choice Waiver program), it will pay for
care in someone’s home or in an
assisted living facility.
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8. Who does Medicaid apply to?
• Applies to people who are 65 years or
older, blind, or disabled.
• Must satisfy the medical requirements
(level of care assessment).
• Need to meet the income and asset
tests.
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9. Who does Medicaid apply to?
• A patient’s monthly income cannot
exceed the monthly cost of the nursing
home ($6-7,000 in this area).
• For the Waiver program, a patient’s
income (not a spouse) must be less
than $2,022/month.
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10. Who does Medicaid apply to?
• The asset test requires that a single
person cannot have more than $2,000
in countable assets.
• A patient can keep his or her home (as
long as its not in a trust) as well as a
vehicle.
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11. Who does Medicaid apply to?
• Asset test allows a married couple to
keep their home (again, if it’s owned
properly), a vehicle, and one-half of
their other assets (up to a maximum of
$109,560).
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12. What is estate recovery?
• It is a process that the State of Michigan
gets reimbursed for the Medicaid
services it has paid for.
• It does not put a lien (i.e. Medicaid lien)
on exempt assets during a patient’s life
or force a sale.
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13. What is estate recovery?
• It applies to people age 55 years or
older who have received Medicaid (i.e.
long term care) services.
• Covers Medicaid services back to
September 30, 2007.
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14. What assets does estate
recovery apply to?
• It only applies to assets that have to be
probated.
• That has the potential to include all
assets (house, bank
accounts, investments, vehicle, person
al property, etc.).
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15. What assets does estate
recovery apply to?
• But…the only assets that are typically
left are: bank account, personal
property (including vehicle), and a
patient’s house.
• The house will be the most significant
asset, but do not lose
sight of the others.
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16. What effect might this have
on your business?
• Estate recovery might incentivize
patients to stay at home longer.
• Patients might be more likely to sell
their house and have more liquid
assets for their care.
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17. How do people protect
against estate recovery?
• The most effective way to protect the
house is with a “ladybird deed.”
• The house remains an exempt asset
during the Medicaid recipient’s life.
• The costs and hassle of probate are
avoided.
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18. How do people protect
against estate recovery?
• What about other assets besides the
house.
• The patient should make sure those
assets avoid probate (i.e. having a
trust named as owner, naming a
beneficiary, etc.).
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19. Some other things to be
concerned about
• When a single person is on
Medicaid, he or she can keep the
house.
• However, he or she will not be able to
use Social Security and other income
to pay the house expenses.
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20. Some other things to be
concerned about
• This typically means that a child or
beneficiary must pay these expenses.
• Children should protect their right to be
reimbursed by executing and recording
a mortgage against the house.
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21. Some other things to be
concerned about
• This gives a child’s reimbursement
claim higher priority than the State of
Michigan’s estate recovery right.
• A child will get paid when the house
sells.
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22. Some other things to be
concerned about
• You should make sure the Medicaid
recipient has signed a financial (also
known as a general durable) power of
attorney.
• That way, the agent can execute the
mortgage.
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23. This is subject to change so
you have to stay informed…
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25. Questions……
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26. Thank You
P. Haans Mulder, JD, MST, CFP®
Cunningham Dalman, P.C.
321 Settlers Road
Holland, MI 49423
(616) 392-1821
phmulder@holland-law.com
mary@holland-law.com
www.holland-law.com
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